Cost-effective way to do this?? Re: Re: Info on the new product we've been using

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Hi everyone,Would people like to do a review here of inexpensive ways to kill biofilm so we are not forced to buy expensive products? Bromelain, serrapeptase, MMS? What else? I do not want to end up kegging Basic H. Thanks.ecoartistTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Sent: Sun, May 22, 2011 12:30:58 PMSubject: Re: Info on the new product we've been using

Rita,

What is the source of the surfactants? I am considering getting this, but just want to do a little more research, check for allergies.

Are you still seeing good results?

I did discover that probiotics secrete surfactants that prevent the adhesion of bad bacteria. But of course it's getting rid of that bad bacteria first that needs to be done. I wonder if the surfactants in this product attack biofilm.

Thanks so much,

Bethany

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> > > > > > > I am not speaking as a representative of the company but as a

> > > > > > > consumer….

> > > > > > > I just want to share what I have found.

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> > > > > > > With the posting of the XMRV study, I thought I'd share what we've

> > > > > > > been doing for the last 5 months. I am leaving the name of the

> > > > > > > product out of this e-mail to protect the product (see link @

> > > > > > > bottom) as it's starting into a new era of double-blind studies that

> > > > > > > is in the process of being organized. I will be happy to answer

> > > > > > > some, but not all?'s on-list….again to protect the product in this

> > > > > > > open group format.

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> > > > > > > We had hit a plateau & this product has catapulted us to a new level

> > > > > > > of healing. I was introduced to it & started looking into it last

> > > > > > > fall. From my research I have found that it helps the bodies immune

> > > > > > > system identify viruses, bacteria & parasites (including those that

> > > > > > > try to hide from the immune system & attach themselves to our DNA).

> > > > > > > It "turns on" the immune system which enables our bodies to heal

> > > > > > > itself. It has been found to encapsulate invaders like parasites &

> > > > > > > worms so the body can get rid of them. It also is used to carry

> > > > > > > other products (like herbs & supplements) into difficult areas of

> > > > > > > the body (like the brain)…..for example, we use it together with the

> > > > > > > LDM-100 to additionally boost the LDM-100.

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> > > > > > > Some things I've learned about it:

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> > > > > > > It has been around for 18 years & very successfully used overseas

> > > > > > > including 9 years of well documented international use….all with NO

> > > > > > > known negative side effects to date. It is categorized as a whole

> > > > > > > food.

> > > > > > > The dyes used are whole food vegetable dyes. The small group of our

> > > > > > > WA BioMed is very careful w/dyes & thus far the ones using it have

> > > > > > > not seen any negative reactions.

> > > > > > > The surfactants are all edible & approved for either topical or

> > > > > > > ingestible use. My family including drinks it right down & do

> > > > > > > not complain about the soapy taste but I am concerned about it w/

> > > > > > > some of our kids (masking the taste with juice is a good option).

> > > > > > > The way you take it: Put drops in a little shot type glass w/a small

> > > > > > > amount of water. Swallow, then follow immediately w/a full glass of

> > > > > > > water. We personally use a glass of Emergency as I want to further

> > > > > > > boost the vit C)..

> > > > > > > Info on surfactants: In our WA group there is an OB RN & a Pediatric

> > > > > > > Dr. Both have told me of surfactants use to help increase the

> > > > > > > survival rate of premature babies in the medical arena….the dr. said

> > > > > > > the biggest drawback is they use them carefully because of the high

> > > > > > > cost. For your info here is some links to general info on surfactants:

> > > > > > > Wiki info on surfactants: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surfactant

> > > > > > > Medical info on (rx) surfactants: http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/surfactant

> > > > > > > Again, the product that we are using IS NOT a rx or

> > > > > > > drug, including the above just gives you some current

> > > > > > > info on surfactants in general.

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> > > > > > > It does not have a history of use with ASD or Lyme….It's history is

> > > > > > > with HIV/Aids & other autoimmune related diseases….didn't stop me!

> > > > > > > It's targeted to the immune system….with my BioMedical mindset

> > > > > > > that's what's important to me! It assists autoimmune related issues

> > > > > > > with low side effects. We have since seen all of our docs including

> > > > > > > our Herbalist & have received high OK's from ALL on how well he is

> > > > > > > doing on this product (for those that see our docs….last month I

> > > > > > > brought them samples for ART testing, so you can ask to be ART

> > > > > > > tested on it). A small group of us (ASD/Lyme savvy moms) met with a

> > > > > > > high level group including some of its founders early in the year &

> > > > > > > we now have several recovering ASD ( & families) using it. Reports

> > > > > > > across the board are good.

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> > > > > > > Now on to some amazing things we are seeing on a cellular basis with

> > > > > > > this. I have personally seen/spoken to people that have had amazing

> > > > > > > results from a wide variety of autoimmune issues including a lab

> > > > > > > tech in Northern WA that has been using it for some time. He told me

> > > > > > > to have baseline immune system labs run, then rerun the labs after

> > > > > > > 30-60 days of product use where they have found dramatic

> > > > > > > improvements in the immune panel labs. To date we've been using it 5

> > > > > > > months & 's viral, lyme, bacterial & overall body stress is

> > > > > > > substantially reduced (per ART testing). He is doing really, really

> > > > > > > well all the way around, physically, socially & educationally.

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> > > > > > > What we have personally found using it with :

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> > > > > > > Thus far our biggest battle has been the metals dumping that comes

> > > > > > > with killing organisms. Over the many years of BioMedical

> > > > > > > intervention we are all too familiar with the side effects of a

> > > > > > > successful detox….this was no different. The first couple of months

> > > > > > > along with the good gains we saw some increase in OCD & some extra

> > > > > > > frustration….some of this extra frustration we believe to be some

> > > > > > > extra stress from school right now as this is his 1st year in Middle

> > > > > > > School (gen ed) including 3 lockers ( & 3 locker combinations) & only

> > > > > > > 3 minutes between a multi-level school building with about 800 kids

> > > > > > > (to say traffic between classes is tough is an understatement…even

> > > > > > > some of the regular kids have issues). He's also learning

> > > > > > > multiplying/dividing fractions/decimals in 6th grade math curriculum…

> > > > > > > uggggg! (stressing me too!!!). The toxic metals movement has come

> > > > > > > with the usual kidney stress (not overwhelming for us but definitely

> > > > > > > needs to be managed). Because of the continuing detox we ended up

> > > > > > > adding extra Ionic Footbaths & extra laser supports which we found

> > > > > > > additionally helpful. We have had to up our binders (especially

> > > > > > > Chlorella) & she added Cilantro both rubbed over the kidneys

> > > > > > > topically & orally. We also needed to up our Alfalfa & add extra

> > > > > > > minerals (she used Minerals of Life Multi-minerals in addition to

> > > > > > > our standard minerals in our protocol).

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> > > > > > > Talking about cells, this is amazing….we're talking cellular support

> > > > > > > here. I have a digital picture (taken April 20, 2011) of a Christmas

> > > > > > > tree that was cut & put up the middle of Dec. It was watered with 3

> > > > > > > drops put into 1 gallon of water for the 1 month that it was

> > > > > > > displayed inside. The water was then dumped out & it was put on his

> > > > > > > back deck where it has remained. The needles are soft &

> > > > > > > flexible….I've seen live trees in the neighborhood with our

> > > > > > > unseasonably bad NW weather this year looking worse than this one. I

> > > > > > > have personally watched this tree….this is no joke. I am happy to

> > > > > > > send you the picture of this beautiful green Christmas tree that

> > > > > > > hasn't figured out it's suppose to be brown & dead by now. Upon one

> > > > > > > of the moms in our group returning home from seeing this tree she

> > > > > > > watered her "not-doing-so-well" basil plant to have it perk right

> > > > > > > up ) This is also being used successfully on animals including

> > > > > > > dogs & horses.

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> > > > > > > Just like the other products I have supported over the years, I

> > > > > > > value your feedback! If you do decide to use the product, mainly to

> > > > > > > help me learn further for supporting the ASD, lyme/co-infections or

> > > > > > > XMRV. Any ?'s, please feel free to contact me either on or off list.

> > > > > > > This product is not like any other product we have used….it is

> > > > > > > beneficial to anyone or anything (including animals & plants) w/an

> > > > > > > immune system. It is based on the philosophy that God gave us an

> > > > > > > immune system to tackle things….it's our immune systems that need to

> > > > > > > be reset to proper functioning. With a properly working immune

> > > > > > > system we should not need any man-made assistance. This product

> > > > > > > works directly on resetting our God given immune system to fight

> > > > > > > it's intended fight.

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> > > > > > > One other thing of note. In researching this I spoke with a woman

> > > > > > > that was on 15 different meds. After a couple of weeks of doing real

> > > > > > > well on it she got ill. After no one in the ER could figure out what

> > > > > > > was wrong because all the labs were "normal" they figured out that

> > > > > > > it was all the meds that her body no longer needed! The doctor

> > > > > > > removed all but a few of the drugs she was on & now she doing very

> > > > > > > well. This is important! If you are on a bunch of stuff & find

> > > > > > > yourself not feeling well after a short time on this product, look

> > > > > > > at everything you are on & check to see if your body no longer needs

> > > > > > > it. We stayed on our existing ART tested protocol when using it (we

> > > > > > > are on all naturals/basically whole food support items)…. & as always

> > > > > > > monitor the body for the detox related changes as it cycles through

> > > > > > > the layers the immune system is cleaning out. Also, when ART testing

> > > > > > > it, you may need to make sure good binders are on board for the

> > > > > > > protocol to test its highest. We have piggybacked other naturals

> > > > > > > onto it for a short time to help boost them & target items.

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> > > > > > > ps…I have not had time, but I would like to talk to MP to review

> > > > > > > this w/him & get him a sample for his Zyto…..any other docs that

> > > > > > > needs info or samples I can personally connect them w/either the

> > > > > > > founders or lab guy to further educate them. I am really excited

> > > > > > > about this product!!!

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