Re: Checking Diet for Inflammation

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Fransel,

Try taking out the Kangen water....some do wonderful and some tank--it's like HBOT all about timing and what's infections are present. The other thing to cut back on is the nut breads (wicked high oxalate) and perhaps drop all red and purple foods and move to medium oxalate foods.

My little kid will gobble almost anything down as his food list has been so restricted, but he loves this pumpkin pie and it's good fiber/protien:

crust: coconut flour, italian chestnut flour and coconut oil...i also have been added in raw and toasted coconut and thinking of breaking it up to add in pumpkin seed flour. I just add whatever and stick it into a Le Crueset pie pan.

beat 2 eggs and add can pumpkin or butternut squash (i know cans, yuck) and 14 oz of coconut milk. mix pour and bake. i give it to matt with coconut yogurt...the So Delicious stuff has some strep strain probiotic but we haven't seen anything negative and are hitting strep so i wonder how viable these probiotics really are.

Think I make 2 to 3 pies a week. My non pooper even pooped for pie yesterday, that's huge mold/tree pollen counts off the charts here.

lisa

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Thats funny ,my family lives on pumpkin pie also!!!!!!! :-) :

GOOD COMFORT FOOD. And you can add so much good

stuff to it like stevia or homemade tapioca on the side.

Tammy F.

Fransel,

Try taking out the Kangen water....some do wonderful

and some tank--it's like HBOT all about timing and what's

infections are present. The other thing to cut back on is

the nut breads (wicked high oxalate) and perhaps drop all

red and purple foods and move to medium oxalate foods.

My little kid will gobble almost anything down as his

food list has been so restricted, but he loves this

pumpkin pie and it's good fiber/protien:

crust: coconut flour, italian chestnut flour and

coconut oil...i also have been added in raw and toasted

coconut and thinking of breaking it up to add in pumpkin

seed flour. I just add whatever and stick it into a Le

Crueset pie pan.

beat 2 eggs and add can pumpkin or butternut squash (i

know cans, yuck) and 14 oz of coconut milk. mix pour and

bake. i give it to matt with coconut yogurt...the So

Delicious stuff has some strep strain probiotic but we

haven't seen anything negative and are hitting strep so i

wonder how viable these probiotics really are.

Think I make 2 to 3 pies a week. My non pooper even

pooped for pie yesterday, that's huge mold/tree pollen

counts off the charts here.

lisa

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Hi Fransel!I think gave a nice feedback on what u r listing, l agree, l would drop the nut breads and try to go for more low -medium oxalate foods. Do you have a list on which are high/med/low oxalate foods? Stick to the organic beef, organic chicken and if u can, organic turkey. How come u r a Guzman too??!! Where are u from?? JijiIsaEnviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de TelcelFrom: franselw@...Sender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 04:55:45 +0000To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism<BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Checking Diet for Inflammation

Hello Isa Sorry I could not get back to you earlier.My son's favorite foods include: nut breads, organic beef, chicken, turkey, fruits and vegetables-trying more low oxalate ones. We use Kangan alkaline water to drink. He has daily epsom salt baths. We used to do HBOT but now I parked our machine since docs say it will make lyme worse.Thank you very much.FranselFrom: isaguzmandiaz2@...Sender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 14:39:49 +0000To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsandAutism<BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Anti Inflammatory and Immune Boosters

Dear Fransel,Ok, if his cytokine count was so high she decided to pursue this topic first, l understand why. Cytokines/interleukynes (spelling?) Are basically, proteins secreted by different cells of the nervous and immune system as a systemic response against trauma or infection. The problem, when either of the a.m conditions is chronic, is that the response can not be shut off and the body and this proteins, which in principle are beneficial for the body, stop being a welcome part on the play. I do believe that handling the inflammatory response, first hand, will make him feel better, at least to make the upcoming approach more tolerable. Regarding antibiotics: there are sooo many different experiences, from what l have heard, some do great on it, some get very sick.... It is difficult to anticipate. Does this MD performs muscle testing ? Or will she be able to use someone who does it only to check if his body agrees with x or y thing? I believe sometimes it is not a matter of people getting worse on antibiotics, but on determining the difference between some antibiotic and the right antibiotic for every case. I also believe if you could help him keep detoxing with other aides besides pectin, it would help. I mean more external aides to assist him and not overload his GI tract any further, things like ionic footbaths, sauna, dry skin brushing, laser on liver and kidneys and spine (read more on Nurse Andy's website), u can do this at home, w a simple green laser, bentonite clay baths, castor oil packs on liver, lymphatic massage with calming herb oils (our friend Limin is a representative and she can tell you better than anybody which oil / oil combination to use). For additional oral detox support, l used burbur from nutramedix in the past and always had good results from it, you can try since it is not a drug and it is not expensive. I also suggest you to give him lots of high quality water, prepared by yourself (it is called M water and l can give u the recipe when l get back home). What l mean is, if u can start/keep detoxing all the time, he might be able to cope better w any treatment. Pls tell me too what is his favorite foods, perhaps he is also ingesting something or lacking something that might be essential in detoxing. This is like a battle, the more weapons u have at hand before starting, the best Let me know if u need more info on any this suggestions!BlessingsIsaEnviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de TelcelSender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 22:54:04 -0700To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Anti Inflammatory and Immune Boosters Hello ISAI don't mind answering questions at all. I am an open book because I want answers. My meeting with doctor to review tests is on Thursday so I will have a clearer picture. When she said my son had a lot of inflammation she mentioned cytokines which I do not yet fully grasp. She said he did not test positive for PANDAS and with no constant hand/feet flapping or throat issues. The doctor is known to treat aggressively with antibiotics intravenously to bypass the gut. We are addressing the gut issues while waiting for tests but when we meet she will tell us the ABX treatment plan. Do you treat with antibiotics? Is it safe with our gut compromised children? Will he go ballistic with ABX? I am only supplementing with 75 billion Custom Probiotics DLactate formula and only pectins for binders. ly I am scared as it is bad as it is now. Or maybe killing the infection will give him some relief and settle his aggression? His Igenex and other tests showed my son had Lyme, Bartonella and Ralstonia Insidiosa.I hope and pray things will get better soon so we can have some normalcy in our lives. Thank you very much for your interest.FranselSent from my iPad Fransel,May l ask what are the preliminary tests saying? Is inflammation the main issue w your son? Do you have a better idea now of what kind of infection is he suffering? I am very interested in following your son's progress, and l don't see any anti-infectious agents to start treating... is it confirmed whether he has lyme disease or not?If you don't feel comfortable answering this questions, pls excuse me and ignore this mail. I understand lowering the inflammation as a first aid approach to try to control the fire in his organism, but l believe the main cause for inflammation (which is infection) must be addressed asap tooBlessingsIsaEnviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de TelcelFrom: klwadler@...Sender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 19:34:47 -0400 (EDT)To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Anti Inflammatory and Immune Boosti.. Avipaxin sounds interesting. My son has had good success using bethanachol, which sounds likes it is doing similar things. It works great for anxiety and calming the parasympathetic nervous system. From: franselw@...Reply-to: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Sent: 5/23/2011 7:28:04 P.M. Eastern Daylight TimeSubj: Anti Inflammatory and Immune Boosting Supplements My son's doctor had us starting on these items based on some tests that have come back. A detailed review will be on Thursday. I want to know if anyone has had success using any of the ff before I open them. I have done some initial research but thought I'd throw it out there anyway since so many list members here have a lot of experience:- Calm PRT- Orthomega DHA Select- Inflammacore by Orthomolecular- Resveratrol- Avipaxin- NorloxWe are also having zyto testing done and maybe acupuncture. I even had some mind-body-soul healing. It is important for everyone to reach a healing state. Thanks to all of you wonderful people here. Fransel Sent from my iPad

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Isa What bread do you give your child? I'm from the Philippines originally. Eager to give other alternative breads so I can drop the nuts.FranselFrom: isaguzmandiaz2@...Sender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 13:55:53 +0000To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsandAutism<BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Checking Diet for Inflammation

Hi Fransel!I think gave a nice feedback on what u r listing, l agree, l would drop the nut breads and try to go for more low -medium oxalate foods. Do you have a list on which are high/med/low oxalate foods? Stick to the organic beef, organic chicken and if u can, organic turkey. How come u r a Guzman too??!! Where are u from?? JijiIsaEnviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de TelcelFrom: franselw@...Sender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 04:55:45 +0000To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism<BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Checking Diet for Inflammation

Hello Isa Sorry I could not get back to you earlier.My son's favorite foods include: nut breads, organic beef, chicken, turkey, fruits and vegetables-trying more low oxalate ones. We use Kangan alkaline water to drink. He has daily epsom salt baths. We used to do HBOT but now I parked our machine since docs say it will make lyme worse.Thank you very much.FranselFrom: isaguzmandiaz2@...Sender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 14:39:49 +0000To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsandAutism<BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Anti Inflammatory and Immune Boosters

Dear Fransel,Ok, if his cytokine count was so high she decided to pursue this topic first, l understand why. Cytokines/interleukynes (spelling?) Are basically, proteins secreted by different cells of the nervous and immune system as a systemic response against trauma or infection. The problem, when either of the a.m conditions is chronic, is that the response can not be shut off and the body and this proteins, which in principle are beneficial for the body, stop being a welcome part on the play. I do believe that handling the inflammatory response, first hand, will make him feel better, at least to make the upcoming approach more tolerable. Regarding antibiotics: there are sooo many different experiences, from what l have heard, some do great on it, some get very sick.... It is difficult to anticipate. Does this MD performs muscle testing ? Or will she be able to use someone who does it only to check if his body agrees with x or y thing? I believe sometimes it is not a matter of people getting worse on antibiotics, but on determining the difference between some antibiotic and the right antibiotic for every case. I also believe if you could help him keep detoxing with other aides besides pectin, it would help. I mean more external aides to assist him and not overload his GI tract any further, things like ionic footbaths, sauna, dry skin brushing, laser on liver and kidneys and spine (read more on Nurse Andy's website), u can do this at home, w a simple green laser, bentonite clay baths, castor oil packs on liver, lymphatic massage with calming herb oils (our friend Limin is a representative and she can tell you better than anybody which oil / oil combination to use). For additional oral detox support, l used burbur from nutramedix in the past and always had good results from it, you can try since it is not a drug and it is not expensive. I also suggest you to give him lots of high quality water, prepared by yourself (it is called M water and l can give u the recipe when l get back home). What l mean is, if u can start/keep detoxing all the time, he might be able to cope better w any treatment. Pls tell me too what is his favorite foods, perhaps he is also ingesting something or lacking something that might be essential in detoxing. This is like a battle, the more weapons u have at hand before starting, the best Let me know if u need more info on any this suggestions!BlessingsIsaEnviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de TelcelSender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 22:54:04 -0700To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Anti Inflammatory and Immune Boosters Hello ISAI don't mind answering questions at all. I am an open book because I want answers. My meeting with doctor to review tests is on Thursday so I will have a clearer picture. When she said my son had a lot of inflammation she mentioned cytokines which I do not yet fully grasp. She said he did not test positive for PANDAS and with no constant hand/feet flapping or throat issues. The doctor is known to treat aggressively with antibiotics intravenously to bypass the gut. We are addressing the gut issues while waiting for tests but when we meet she will tell us the ABX treatment plan. Do you treat with antibiotics? Is it safe with our gut compromised children? Will he go ballistic with ABX? I am only supplementing with 75 billion Custom Probiotics DLactate formula and only pectins for binders. ly I am scared as it is bad as it is now. Or maybe killing the infection will give him some relief and settle his aggression? His Igenex and other tests showed my son had Lyme, Bartonella and Ralstonia Insidiosa.I hope and pray things will get better soon so we can have some normalcy in our lives. Thank you very much for your interest.FranselSent from my iPad Fransel,May l ask what are the preliminary tests saying? Is inflammation the main issue w your son? Do you have a better idea now of what kind of infection is he suffering? I am very interested in following your son's progress, and l don't see any anti-infectious agents to start treating... is it confirmed whether he has lyme disease or not?If you don't feel comfortable answering this questions, pls excuse me and ignore this mail. I understand lowering the inflammation as a first aid approach to try to control the fire in his organism, but l believe the main cause for inflammation (which is infection) must be addressed asap tooBlessingsIsaEnviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de TelcelFrom: klwadler@...Sender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 19:34:47 -0400 (EDT)To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Anti Inflammatory and Immune Boosti.. Avipaxin sounds interesting. My son has had good success using bethanachol, which sounds likes it is doing similar things. It works great for anxiety and calming the parasympathetic nervous system. From: franselw@...Reply-to: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Sent: 5/23/2011 7:28:04 P.M. Eastern Daylight TimeSubj: Anti Inflammatory and Immune Boosting Supplements My son's doctor had us starting on these items based on some tests that have come back. A detailed review will be on Thursday. I want to know if anyone has had success using any of the ff before I open them. I have done some initial research but thought I'd throw it out there anyway since so many list members here have a lot of experience:- Calm PRT- Orthomega DHA Select- Inflammacore by Orthomolecular- Resveratrol- Avipaxin- NorloxWe are also having zyto testing done and maybe acupuncture. I even had some mind-body-soul healing. It is important for everyone to reach a healing state. Thanks to all of you wonderful people here. Fransel Sent from my iPad

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FranselI used to bake my son's delicious nut breads, cake, muffins and tortillas....all Scd. l dropped everything a couple of months ago and now he has other things for breakfast: fresh pressed juices, soups, eggs, vegetables, meats, fruit, tea. Breakfast is not much different than lunch or dinner. I am scared to go back to GFCFSF, which we had in the beginning, since it really never did that much for him. I am trying to compensate the abscence of those delicious SCD baked goods with more variety of stews, baked fruit, etc. I think it is best to stay away from all this for a while.... IsaPs: my family is a mix of spanish/jewish/french/indian, and l live in mexico city..... What a mix, uh? Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de TelcelFrom: franselw@...Sender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 21:11:12 +0000To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism<BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Checking Diet for Inflammation

Isa What bread do you give your child? I'm from the Philippines originally. Eager to give other alternative breads so I can drop the nuts.FranselFrom: isaguzmandiaz2@...Sender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 13:55:53 +0000To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsandAutism<BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Checking Diet for Inflammation

Hi Fransel!I think gave a nice feedback on what u r listing, l agree, l would drop the nut breads and try to go for more low -medium oxalate foods. Do you have a list on which are high/med/low oxalate foods? Stick to the organic beef, organic chicken and if u can, organic turkey. How come u r a Guzman too??!! Where are u from?? JijiIsaEnviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de TelcelFrom: franselw@...Sender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 04:55:45 +0000To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism<BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Checking Diet for Inflammation

Hello Isa Sorry I could not get back to you earlier.My son's favorite foods include: nut breads, organic beef, chicken, turkey, fruits and vegetables-trying more low oxalate ones. We use Kangan alkaline water to drink. He has daily epsom salt baths. We used to do HBOT but now I parked our machine since docs say it will make lyme worse.Thank you very much.FranselFrom: isaguzmandiaz2@...Sender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 14:39:49 +0000To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsandAutism<BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Anti Inflammatory and Immune Boosters

Dear Fransel,Ok, if his cytokine count was so high she decided to pursue this topic first, l understand why. Cytokines/interleukynes (spelling?) Are basically, proteins secreted by different cells of the nervous and immune system as a systemic response against trauma or infection. The problem, when either of the a.m conditions is chronic, is that the response can not be shut off and the body and this proteins, which in principle are beneficial for the body, stop being a welcome part on the play. I do believe that handling the inflammatory response, first hand, will make him feel better, at least to make the upcoming approach more tolerable. Regarding antibiotics: there are sooo many different experiences, from what l have heard, some do great on it, some get very sick.... It is difficult to anticipate. Does this MD performs muscle testing ? Or will she be able to use someone who does it only to check if his body agrees with x or y thing? I believe sometimes it is not a matter of people getting worse on antibiotics, but on determining the difference between some antibiotic and the right antibiotic for every case. I also believe if you could help him keep detoxing with other aides besides pectin, it would help. I mean more external aides to assist him and not overload his GI tract any further, things like ionic footbaths, sauna, dry skin brushing, laser on liver and kidneys and spine (read more on Nurse Andy's website), u can do this at home, w a simple green laser, bentonite clay baths, castor oil packs on liver, lymphatic massage with calming herb oils (our friend Limin is a representative and she can tell you better than anybody which oil / oil combination to use). For additional oral detox support, l used burbur from nutramedix in the past and always had good results from it, you can try since it is not a drug and it is not expensive. I also suggest you to give him lots of high quality water, prepared by yourself (it is called M water and l can give u the recipe when l get back home). What l mean is, if u can start/keep detoxing all the time, he might be able to cope better w any treatment. Pls tell me too what is his favorite foods, perhaps he is also ingesting something or lacking something that might be essential in detoxing. This is like a battle, the more weapons u have at hand before starting, the best Let me know if u need more info on any this suggestions!BlessingsIsaEnviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de TelcelSender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 22:54:04 -0700To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Anti Inflammatory and Immune Boosters Hello ISAI don't mind answering questions at all. I am an open book because I want answers. My meeting with doctor to review tests is on Thursday so I will have a clearer picture. When she said my son had a lot of inflammation she mentioned cytokines which I do not yet fully grasp. She said he did not test positive for PANDAS and with no constant hand/feet flapping or throat issues. The doctor is known to treat aggressively with antibiotics intravenously to bypass the gut. We are addressing the gut issues while waiting for tests but when we meet she will tell us the ABX treatment plan. Do you treat with antibiotics? Is it safe with our gut compromised children? Will he go ballistic with ABX? I am only supplementing with 75 billion Custom Probiotics DLactate formula and only pectins for binders. ly I am scared as it is bad as it is now. Or maybe killing the infection will give him some relief and settle his aggression? His Igenex and other tests showed my son had Lyme, Bartonella and Ralstonia Insidiosa.I hope and pray things will get better soon so we can have some normalcy in our lives. Thank you very much for your interest.FranselSent from my iPad Fransel,May l ask what are the preliminary tests saying? Is inflammation the main issue w your son? Do you have a better idea now of what kind of infection is he suffering? I am very interested in following your son's progress, and l don't see any anti-infectious agents to start treating... is it confirmed whether he has lyme disease or not?If you don't feel comfortable answering this questions, pls excuse me and ignore this mail. I understand lowering the inflammation as a first aid approach to try to control the fire in his organism, but l believe the main cause for inflammation (which is infection) must be addressed asap tooBlessingsIsaEnviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de TelcelFrom: klwadler@...Sender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 19:34:47 -0400 (EDT)To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Anti Inflammatory and Immune Boosti.. Avipaxin sounds interesting. My son has had good success using bethanachol, which sounds likes it is doing similar things. It works great for anxiety and calming the parasympathetic nervous system. From: franselw@...Reply-to: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Sent: 5/23/2011 7:28:04 P.M. Eastern Daylight TimeSubj: Anti Inflammatory and Immune Boosting Supplements My son's doctor had us starting on these items based on some tests that have come back. A detailed review will be on Thursday. I want to know if anyone has had success using any of the ff before I open them. I have done some initial research but thought I'd throw it out there anyway since so many list members here have a lot of experience:- Calm PRT- Orthomega DHA Select- Inflammacore by Orthomolecular- Resveratrol- Avipaxin- NorloxWe are also having zyto testing done and maybe acupuncture. I even had some mind-body-soul healing. It is important for everyone to reach a healing state. Thanks to all of you wonderful people here. Fransel Sent from my iPad