Re: Re: homeopathic oxytocin/

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Hi ,

Is Oxytocin 6x in pallet or liquid form? Is there any other remedy recommended

to use together with Oxytoxin to increase effectiveness? How long have you been

using it? Can you provide some feedback if you have observed changes in your

son because of this particular remedy?

I have my doubt if 6x can be sufficient, as we try to treat a mental stage not a

physical illness. I am interested in trying 1m dilution once a week, but cannot

find any website that carries Oxytocin in high potency. Elixirs will allow the

customer to customize the remedy to some extent, but the highest they can do is

200C.

Can some homeopathy guru in the group provide some thoughts on this? Thanks

much.

Limin

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but flee from those who have found it. "

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> Hi Tami,

>

> The remedy is called Oxytocin 6x. Brand name is Energique. If I remember

correctly, I think they drop shipped it to me straight from Energique along with

a Sulfur rememdy that we used for awhile.

>

> Here is their website:

> http://www.energiqueherbal.com/catalog.aspx

>

> They only list their single herbs on the site, it says you have to call them

to get the homeopathic catalog.

>

> HTH

>

>

>

>>

>> Hi ,

>>

>> Is that the specific name of the remedy because I can't find it on MP's

>> site. Or in the Energique line anywhere. Maybe it's mixed with other

things?

>>

>> Tami

>>

>>

>> In a message dated 4/22/2010 1:53:16 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

>> rickjuliarusso@... writes:

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> Tami,

>> We use homeopathic Oxytocin 6x by Energique. I wasn't at the conference so

>> not sure if this is the one. I get mine from MP.

>>

>>

>>

>> --- In _BorreliaMultipleInfBorreliaMultipleBorreliaMultiBor_

>> (mailto:BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism ) , Tamiduncan@,

Tam

>>>

>>> Has anyone found a source for the homeopathic oxytocin 6X that DK

>> mentioned

>>> in his Sunday talk? Can't seem to find it.

>>>

>>> Tami

>>>

>>

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

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Ainsworths does carry oxytoxin, but the only choice is 30C.

Limin

>

> i use ainsworths and helios.com but dont know if either of these do oxytocin

when i googles in the uk upcame nelson, yes ashley's information was

fantastic...isobel

>

>

>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Hi ,

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Is that the specific name of the remedy because I can't find it on MP's

>>>>>> site. Or in the Energique line anywhere. Maybe it's mixed with other

things?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Tami

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> In a message dated 4/22/2010 1:53:16 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

>>>>>> rickjuliarusso@ writes:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Tami,

>>>>>> We use homeopathic Oxytocin 6x by Energique. I wasn't at the conference

so

>>>>>> not sure if this is the one. I get mine from MP.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> --- In _BorreliaMultipleInfBorreliaMultipleBorreliaMultiBor_

>>>>>> (mailto:BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism ) ,

Tamiduncan@, Tam

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Has anyone found a source for the homeopathic oxytocin 6X that DK

>>>>>> mentioned

>>>>>>> in his Sunday talk? Can't seem to find it.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Tami

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> ------------------------------------

>>>>>

>>>>>

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Limin,

A boy with autism who was seeing the same homeopath I was lowered his testosterone levels by doing ionic footbaths. i'm not sure if they were doing anything else. The homeopath had just mentioned it to me in one of our converstions. HTH.

Re: Re: homeopathic oxytocin/

, much thanks for your detailed explanation. I appreciate it.

My son does not have a sensitive constitution. As a matter of fact, he has never responded to homeopathic remedies either good or bad if giving orally. We usually have a better result when laser sweeping the frequency imprints of a substance than dilutions of a substance. In the past, we consulted a well known classic homeopath in our area. After changing remedies approximately once a month for 8 months without seeing any changes in my son, I eventually gave up on this. I also tried high potency testosterone to down-regulate testosterone for a couple of months. That did not work either. My son's testosterone remained at the elevated levels. I know that I still have much to learn about homeopathy, but our history with it shunts me to focus on herbs rather than homeopath, as I feel more comfortable in choosing and combining herbs into a treatment protocol and know better in how to expect.

I just remember that Dr. K mentioned high-potency remedies down-regulat hormones, and low-potency up-regulate hormones. Going by this principle, I should actually use low-potency Oxytocin, right? Any thoughts on this?

Limin

> Here's my two cents. In general I am conservative when it comes to the kids - trying one thing at a time so you know what is working or isn't working. Then adding something that is synergistic later on.

>

> I would test a lower potency first on a new homeopathic remedy to assess how your child is responding. You could even "water dose" so you don't get an aggravation. If there is no change, you can try a higher potency next.

>

> I agree with Limin, the emotional plane usually is reached with a higher potency. However, I would slowly build up to a high potency so you don't get a bad effect that could last weeks. Messing with the brain at high potencies is something to be very careful about IMHO. I would never out-of-the-box give a super high potency without any history of what level typically resonates with a child when using homeopathic remedies. The right potency is different with everyone, the other half of the puzzle to choosing the right remedy.

>

> Most people think homeopathy is harmless, if it resonates it resonates, if it doesn't, then nothing happens. BUT it can cause major aggravations - a slight aggravation is okay with the SAME symptoms your child has. THat can mean it is working. However, an aggravation with NEW symptoms means it is not a match. No one wants new symptoms lingering around. This can happen when you are CLOSE to a match, which is likely when you are dealing with a synthetic neurotransmitter as an example.

>

> As an example, my daughter was brought to her knees for several days on a syphilis nosode that wasn't even high, I think it was a 6c. Close but no cigar. Sometimes the reverse can happen - an x level remedy because it is still potent with the mother tincture causes even more of an aggravation than an M level or C. That's why we need to experiment lots with our kids - water dosing is the safest because the remedy doesn't last.

>

> If you are interested in water dosing, here are some quick instructions, although Googling you can find them too I am sure:

>

> 1) Fill an 8oz container of water. Take 2 to 5 pellets (depending on the size you have) and dissolve. Gently stir but do not succuss. This is your remedy bottle. If you have drops, do the same thing - just add a few drops into the container.

>

> 2) Fill a second container with 4oz of water. Add a teaspoon of water from your remedy bottle. Succuss this bottle about 8 times.

>

> 3) Give your child a teaspoon of this water.

>

> 4) Wait and observe. If there is no response, you can give a teaspoon directly from the remedy bottle. Observe. If you get an aggravation with the SAME symptoms, you can dilute further by making an additional 4oz water bottle, and dilute a 2nd time with that doing the same instructions. Or, you can move down the potency level if that doesn't help.

>

> there are many variations to water dosing - as long as you keep your measurements consistent then you can really track what is working and what isn't. Water dosing is great because it gives you some control over reactions - you can really tinker around to what is tolerable for you or your child. And you can quickly move to another remedy without waiting for reactions from the initial one to dissipate.

>

> As a rule I always test dose a new remedy with my kids.

>

>

>>>>

>>>> Hi ,

>>>>

>>>> Is that the specific name of the remedy because I can't find it on MP's

>>>> site. Or in the Energique line anywhere. Maybe it's mixed with other things?

>>>>

>>>> Tami

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> In a message dated 4/22/2010 1:53:16 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

>>>> rickjuliarusso@ writes:

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Tami,

>>>> We use homeopathic Oxytocin 6x by Energique. I wasn't at the conference so

>>>> not sure if this is the one. I get mine from MP.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> --- In _BorreliaMultipleInfBorreliaMultipleBorreliaMultiBor_

>>>> (mailto:BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism ) , Tamiduncan@, Tam

>>>>>

>>>>> Has anyone found a source for the homeopathic oxytocin 6X that DK

>>>> mentioned

>>>>> in his Sunday talk? Can't seem to find it.

>>>>>

>>>>> Tami

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> ------------------------------------

>>>

>>>

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Thank you, . I do believe that treating infections, reducing inflammation, and detoxifying the body overtime can bring the out-of-whack hormones back to homeostasis. Limin--http://www.healthbylimin.com/Young Living Distributor # 1111136"Follow those who seek the truth,but flee from those who have found it."-- Unknown origin Limin,A boy with autism who was seeing the same homeopath I was lowered his testosterone levels by doing ionic footbaths. i'm not sure if they were doing anything else. The homeopath had just mentioned it to me in one of our converstions. HTH. Re: Re: homeopathic oxytocin/ , much thanks for your detailed explanation. I appreciate it. My son does not have a sensitive constitution. As a matter of fact, he has never responded to homeopathic remedies either good or bad if giving orally. We usually have a better result when laser sweeping the frequency imprints of a substance than dilutions of a substance. In the past, we consulted a well known classic homeopath in our area. After changing remedies approximately once a month for 8 months without seeing any changes in my son, I eventually gave up on this. I also tried high potency testosterone to down-regulate testosterone for a couple of months. That did not work either. My son's testosterone remained at the elevated levels. I know that I still have much to learn about homeopathy, but our history with it shunts me to focus on herbs rather than homeopath, as I feel more comfortable in choosing and combining herbs into a treatment protocol and know better in how to expect. I just remember that Dr. K mentioned high-potency remedies down-regulat hormones, and low-potency up-regulate hormones. Going by this principle, I should actually use low-potency Oxytocin, right? Any thoughts on this?Limin> Here's my two cents. In general I am conservative when it comes to the kids - trying one thing at a time so you know what is working or isn't working. Then adding something that is synergistic later on. > > I would test a lower potency first on a new homeopathic remedy to assess how your child is responding. You could even "water dose" so you don't get an aggravation. If there is no change, you can try a higher potency next. > > I agree with Limin, the emotional plane usually is reached with a higher potency. However, I would slowly build up to a high potency so you don't get a bad effect that could last weeks. Messing with the brain at high potencies is something to be very careful about IMHO. I would never out-of-the-box give a super high potency without any history of what level typically resonates with a child when using homeopathic remedies. The right potency is different with everyone, the other half of the puzzle to choosing the right remedy. > > Most people think homeopathy is harmless, if it resonates it resonates, if it doesn't, then nothing happens. BUT it can cause major aggravations - a slight aggravation is okay with the SAME symptoms your child has. THat can mean it is working. However, an aggravation with NEW symptoms means it is not a match. No one wants new symptoms lingering around. This can happen when you are CLOSE to a match, which is likely when you are dealing with a synthetic neurotransmitter as an example. > > As an example, my daughter was brought to her knees for several days on a syphilis nosode that wasn't even high, I think it was a 6c. Close but no cigar. Sometimes the reverse can happen - an x level remedy because it is still potent with the mother tincture causes even more of an aggravation than an M level or C. That's why we need to experiment lots with our kids - water dosing is the safest because the remedy doesn't last.> > If you are interested in water dosing, here are some quick instructions, although Googling you can find them too I am sure:> > 1) Fill an 8oz container of water. Take 2 to 5 pellets (depending on the size you have) and dissolve. Gently stir but do not succuss. This is your remedy bottle. If you have drops, do the same thing - just add a few drops into the container.> > 2) Fill a second container with 4oz of water. Add a teaspoon of water from your remedy bottle. Succuss this bottle about 8 times. > > 3) Give your child a teaspoon of this water. > > 4) Wait and observe. If there is no response, you can give a teaspoon directly from the remedy bottle. Observe. If you get an aggravation with the SAME symptoms, you can dilute further by making an additional 4oz water bottle, and dilute a 2nd time with that doing the same instructions. Or, you can move down the potency level if that doesn't help.> > there are many variations to water dosing - as long as you keep your measurements consistent then you can really track what is working and what isn't. Water dosing is great because it gives you some control over reactions - you can really tinker around to what is tolerable for you or your child. And you can quickly move to another remedy without waiting for reactions from the initial one to dissipate.> > As a rule I always test dose a new remedy with my kids. > > >>>> >>>> Hi ,>>>> >>>> Is that the specific name of the remedy because I can't find it on MP's >>>> site. Or in the Energique line anywhere. Maybe it's mixed with other things?>>>> >>>> Tami>>>> >>>> >>>> In a message dated 4/22/2010 1:53:16 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, >>>> rickjuliarusso@ writes:>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Tami,>>>> We use homeopathic Oxytocin 6x by Energique. I wasn't at the conference so >>>> not sure if this is the one. I get mine from MP.>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --- In _BorreliaMultipleInfBorreliaMultipleBorreliaMultiBor_ >>>> (mailto:BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism ) , Tamiduncan@, Tam>>>>> >>>>> Has anyone found a source for the homeopathic oxytocin 6X that DK >>>> mentioned >>>>> in his Sunday talk? Can't seem to find it.>>>>> >>>>> Tami>>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------>>> >>>

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how about medirol?

Re: Re: homeopathic oxytocin/

Ainsworths does carry oxytoxin, but the only choice is 30C.

Limin

>

> i use ainsworths and helios.com but dont know if either of these do oxytocin when i googles in the uk upcame nelson, yes ashley's information was fantastic...isobel

>

>

>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Hi ,

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Is that the specific name of the remedy because I can't find it on MP's

>>>>>> site. Or in the Energique line anywhere. Maybe it's mixed with other things?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Tami

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> In a message dated 4/22/2010 1:53:16 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

>>>>>> rickjuliarusso@ writes:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Tami,

>>>>>> We use homeopathic Oxytocin 6x by Energique. I wasn't at the conference so

>>>>>> not sure if this is the one. I get mine from MP.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> --- In _BorreliaMultipleInfBorreliaMultipleBorreliaMultiBor_

>>>>>> (mailto:BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism ) , Tamiduncan@, Tam

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Has anyone found a source for the homeopathic oxytocin 6X that DK

>>>>>> mentioned

>>>>>>> in his Sunday talk? Can't seem to find it.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Tami

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> ------------------------------------

>>>>>

>>>>>