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Hmm, has anyone heard from lately? Her posting about how

depressed she is, then not posting for a couple of days is making me

nervous...

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I heard from yesterday. I think she's laying low for a while because

she felt as though she were being attacked. To those of you who offered

advice, understand that I'm not saying she *was* attacked; rather, I'm

saying she *felt* attacked.

Depression is a weird illness and falls into that category of illnesses that

sometimes have a stigma attached to them. Some accept depression as a

legitimate illness; others believe that it is a state of mind that can be

overcome with a bit of chutzpa. And of course, there are those who believe

that both can be true simultaneously.

I think diabetes sometimes has a stigma attached to it, as well. Many people

believe that if we just controlled what we ate and took better care of our

bodies, we wouldn't have to suffer from this disease. When you hear comments

like that, don't you bristle? It's like blaming the victim for being

attacked. This is probably how 's feels.

Because of how she's feeling, she's in a very vulnerable state and is likely

to perceive comments in a spirit other than which they were offered.

Maybe we all, at some point or another, get tired of hearing people whine

and complain about their miserable lives. We need a safe place to unload our

feelings without being clubbed over the head with " solutions. "

Isn't that what we're supposed to be here for?

G.

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Yes, , that is what we are supposed to be here for, not for flaming

others when they are feeling down. All of us have bad days, when you are

depressed, every day is a bad day. And having someone say that we are

enabling the person to feel that ways is totally wrong.

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> Lword16 wrote:

> <<

> Hmm, has anyone heard from lately? Her posting about how

> depressed she is, then not posting for a couple of days is making me

> nervous...

> >>

>

> I heard from yesterday. I think she's laying low for a while because

> she felt as though she were being attacked. To those of you who offered

> advice, understand that I'm not saying she *was* attacked; rather,

I'm

> saying she *felt* attacked.

>

> Depression is a weird illness and falls into that category of illnesses

that

> sometimes have a stigma attached to them. Some accept depression as a

> legitimate illness; others believe that it is a state of mind that can be

> overcome with a bit of chutzpa. And of course, there are those who believe

> that both can be true simultaneously.

>

> I think diabetes sometimes has a stigma attached to it, as well. Many

people

> believe that if we just controlled what we ate and took better care of our

> bodies, we wouldn't have to suffer from this disease. When you hear

comments

> like that, don't you bristle? It's like blaming the victim for being

> attacked. This is probably how 's feels.

>

> Because of how she's feeling, she's in a very vulnerable state and is

likely

> to perceive comments in a spirit other than which they were offered.

>

>

>

> Maybe we all, at some point or another, get tired of hearing people whine

> and complain about their miserable lives. We need a safe place to unload

our

> feelings without being clubbed over the head with " solutions. "

>

> Isn't that what we're supposed to be here for?

>

> G.

>

>

>

>

>

>

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> Hope you come back soon!

>

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You are certainly welcome to call it as you see it, but this list is not

intended to put anyone down for telling how they feel. Please read the list

description.

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> It isn't making me nervous at all.....and to the bring the subject up

again

> is enabling her to not take responsibility for her own mental

health......I

> think she feeds off posting messages as she has. I don't mean to sound so

> cold but there is nothing anyone can do......she has to take charge of her

> life. We (or actually I) should not feed into this. I will call it as I

see

> it, sorry.

>

> Donna

>

> lword16 wrote:

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> > Hmm, has anyone heard from lately? Her posting about how

> > depressed she is, then not posting for a couple of days is making me

> > nervous...

> >

> > lword

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> > To leave this list please go to diabetes-unsubscribe

> > Hope you come back soon!

> >

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> I have been busy trying to get myself help. However,

> NONE of the many phone calls I made have been

> returned.

> I also went to a meeting last night with 3 other

> people, all having children with depression. The

> concensus was unanimous! There is NO TREATMENT in

> this part of the county.

I hope you get some of those calls returned , Maybe you could start a

group yourself (placing more ads in the paper) with some of the others that

turned up to the meeting, there might be many women who feel like you and

would turn up to more meetings. If others are also willing to complain

about the lack of health services provided, some thing may be done about it.

Just a thought,:)

Anne

> The ladies said I looked so terrified! They gave me

> material to read about what depression is; but they

> could NOT help me find any help. They were hoping

> someone would come along and help them.

>

> This group just happened to be in the paper, it's new.

> They probably won't do it again, because they found

> out what they needed to know. There is NO Help!

>

> Thank you for wondering what happened to me.

>

>

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> It isn't making me nervous at all.....and to the bring the subject up

again

> is enabling her to not take responsibility for her own mental

health......I

> think she feeds off posting messages as she has. I don't mean to sound so

> cold but there is nothing anyone can do......she has to take charge of her

> life. We (or actually I) should not feed into this. I will call it as I

see

> it, sorry.

>

> Donna

>

I can see where your coming from, Ive heard that line so many times in

society, but remember people who are suffering from these sort of disorders

are not *themselves* and rational thought towards helping themselves doesnt

come easy that is why it is an area of concern and health officials need to

be obtainable and helpful ,, It is after all, their job, why do it other

wise?

Anne

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