Re: Reciprocating/

[Guest guest]

I read this post and I just don't get it. IF you are giving from the

kindness of your heart then you ARE getting something....I'm not Christian

but you are getting a VIP pass to Heaven based on Christian beliefs and you

should not be doing anything for anyone if you are doing it in order to be

'recognized' for it.

This Group is a great service to all of us but Having a Let's Celebrate

Day is a bit selfish don't you think? We all need to celebrate all

of our days and all of our members

I would march right outside of my house and go about my life! Why are you

letting someone else dictate the quality of your life. You already have

health problems this certainly can't be helping you.

There are numbers you can call to talk to people. You can't be living in

that much of a backwardsass town where you don't have help available to

you.

We all live for our children that's are obligation as a parent but yes they

go away and they live the fruits of our labors and for the most part make

us proud.

STOP focusing on the bad stuff - If your husband won't talk to you STOP

TALKING TO HIS ASS! Stop cleaning, cooking, being there for him. It's a

two way street.

Go VOLUNTEER at an old folks home or a women's shelter, or something to

fill your heart with joy. Go to the hospital and rock the abandoned babies.

Give some Love and feel their love come back to you.

I know I " m a bit younger than you so I have the fiestiness of Youth but

honey I would not be standing around waiting on someone to knock me over

into a grave! I'd be filling that hole and planting flowers!

NANCY BROTZMAN

<petra2000@yahoo To: diabetes

.com> cc:

Subject: Re:

Reciprocating

04/02/2002 09:26

AM

Please respond

to diabetes

> > What do you

> > do that makes YOU feel good?  Who are the people

> in

> > your life (real people, not internet) who care

> about

> > you?  How do you take care of yourself?  Think

> about

> > it, and do something good for you, just because

> you

> > deserve it.

I live in a house where I dare not go outside because

my husband's inlaws surround us on every side.  They

think it's cute to shoot at me because they know I'm

afraid of guns.  The police won't do anything because

its family.

I feel like I am in solitary confinement.

My husband is totally incomunicative.  I lived my life

for my 3 sons.  Now they are gone.  I did everything

for other people in 4H and Cub Scouts and in church.

None of those people has ever done anything for me.

The church kicked me out because they cannot deal with

my depression.

The papers and stuff I brought from my parent's estate

keeps unraveling more of the pain that they caused me

the first 27 years of my life.

I cannot work because of the heart problems I have.

The last few times I substitute taught was miserable

anyhow as the kids won't listen and just talk back and

call you all sort of mean names.

I don't have anyone to go anywhere with or do anything

with.

So I'm totally alone.

I thought helping others would help me, but I just

feel like I'm doing for others and nobody really cares

about me.  I really begged them to let me die when I

had the heart operation.  I don't know why they

didn't.  It would have been much better than the hell

I'm going through now.

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[Guest guest]

Just where do you live that you go outside and your Inlaws shoot at

you Dodge City, that sounds a bit outragious to me you need to get out from

under these people find a job some place where people appreciate you not

laugh at you

Phyllis

Re:

Reciprocating

04/02/2002 09:26

AM

Please respond

to diabetes

> > What do you

> > do that makes YOU feel good? Who are the people

> in

> > your life (real people, not internet) who care

> about

> > you? How do you take care of yourself? Think

> about

> > it, and do something good for you, just because

> you

> > deserve it.

I live in a house where I dare not go outside because

my husband's inlaws surround us on every side. They

think it's cute to shoot at me because they know I'm

afraid of guns. The police won't do anything because

its family.

I feel like I am in solitary confinement.

My husband is totally incomunicative. I lived my life

for my 3 sons. Now they are gone. I did everything

for other people in 4H and Cub Scouts and in church.

None of those people has ever done anything for me.

The church kicked me out because they cannot deal with

my depression.

The papers and stuff I brought from my parent's estate

keeps unraveling more of the pain that they caused me

the first 27 years of my life.

I cannot work because of the heart problems I have.

The last few times I substitute taught was miserable

anyhow as the kids won't listen and just talk back and

call you all sort of mean names.

I don't have anyone to go anywhere with or do anything

with.

So I'm totally alone.

I thought helping others would help me, but I just

feel like I'm doing for others and nobody really cares

about me. I really begged them to let me die when I

had the heart operation. I don't know why they

didn't. It would have been much better than the hell

I'm going through now.

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

--- pmuhamma@... wrote:

>

> I read this post and I just don't get it. IF

> you are giving from the

> kindness of your heart then you ARE getting

> something....I'm not Christian

> but you are getting a VIP pass to Heaven based on

> Christian beliefs and you

> should not be doing anything for anyone if you are

> doing it in order to be

> 'recognized' for it.

Sorry, but good works don't get you into heaven!!

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

--- Phyllis wrote:

> Just where do you live that you go outside and

> your Inlaws shoot at

> you Dodge City, that sounds a bit outragious to me

> you need to get out from

> under these people find a job some place where

> people appreciate you not

> laugh at you

> Phyllis

You can make fun of me all you want to, but this is

the truth!!

My husband won't do anything about it because it is

his family. They even took us to court because one of

our sheep walked over the line.

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/2/02 12:30:35 PM Central Standard Time,

petra2000@... writes:

> You can make fun of me all you want to, but this is

> the truth!!

> My husband won't do anything about it because it is

> his family. They even took us to court because one of

> our sheep walked over the line.

>

,

I know this happens because my MIL and FIL's property adjoins his sister's.

FIL is now deceased but that doesn't mean anything. I think MIL is still

afraid. I've heard that these people burn people's houses down if they get

angry at them. I don't know what all they've done/said while my inlaws have

lived there but inlaws always have had their guns ready. It's really sad to

me. DH and I have been married for over 20 years and I've never met these

people nor do I want to. I have no idea what the feud is about. I've just

always heard that these are some very mean people. So, yes, I understand

your problem. I'm sure you feel like you're stuck. Feel free to write to me

if you wish. My feelings won't be hurt if you don't.

Sheila

Who understands where you're coming from

[Guest guest]

In addition to my earlier post(which wasn't even clear to me after re-reading

it): The people causing these problem were FIL's sister, husband and her

son. Not nice people at all.

Sheila

[Guest guest]

I totally agree with what I just read. this group has been a great

comfort to me since I have taken the time to get to learn about the support

it offers. I was very wrong for spouting off a few months back about the

pettiness of it all. You said back then that nobody appreciated what you do

and all of that. Well, would we all come back time after time if we didn't

appreciate the group and of course its moderators? I don't think so!! I

don't know exactly what you deal with on a daily basis, but I know that I too

suffer severe depression and other sorts of medical setbacks. Yes, my

children are my life as many mothers will agree with. The whole thing comes

down to this: If you are that unhappy with your life, well, then CHANGE

IT!!! All the celebrating we can provide and appreciation we can show

will not make you any happier. Only you can do that for you. At 39 years

old I could be living a horrible life because of all the obstacles I face

each day, but there is no way that I am going to be miserable because that is

what people expect of me. Nothing we as a group can say or do is going to

help you until YOU HELP YOU FIRST!

To hell with the in-laws and the husband, prove to them as well as to

yourself that HEY, I DESERVE BETTER THAN THIS!!!! Good luck and keep us

posted.

Sharon in CA

[Guest guest]

<<I would march right outside of my house and go about my life! Why are

you

letting someone else dictate the quality of your life. You already have

health problems this certainly can't be helping you.>>

The problem with depression is that you just can't just march out. You

are bascially paralyzed in a horrid existence. Everything becomes

magnified and seems impossible. Depression is just as severe desease as

diabetes.

I know alot about this and wanted to share with others on the list.

Medication and constant support from others can really help.

Also, when you are sick and in pain, everything is so much worse.

Believe me I have been there and it is so bad.

Your family may also not understand and not lift a finger to help you.

You look normal, so what's the problem with you?

This is probably one of the most misunderstood disease today.

Phyllis