Guest guest Posted July 15, 2002 Report Share Posted July 15, 2002 <<I was diagniosed last July with type II I havent really done anything about it. I have a crummy Doc and she thinks i can figure out what I am suppose to do all by my self. I am on Glucatrol right now, I have only been on it a week. Maybe i can learn something from this site.>> Yikes!! Well....you CAN figure out what do do all by yourself ;-) Coming here was a good first step. June 1st, while I was in the hospital, getting a blood transfusion, I started getting meals marked " diabetic " . I asked why and was told I was diabetic ;-o How's that for little or no help? My doc then said my blood sugar wasn't too high and I could control it with diet and exercise. That's IT!!!! My A1c was 7.3. Well, I found a diabetes educator and made an appointment. She gave me a free meter. I had to call the doc and ask him to prescribe strips and lancets so my insurance would pay. I quickly realized that if I ate pasta, rice, potatoes, bread or anything made with flour, my bg's went too high. Through trial and error, I figured out what foods I could eat. It's real important to test 2 hours after each meal to figure out how you are doing. The diets suggested in my diabetes notebook from the educator seemed nuts to me! Way too many carbohydrates. I read some low carb diet books and realized that lower carb foods were better for me. I eat mostly fruits and vegetables, fish, seafood, meats, cheese and the only grains I eat are in my whole grain hot cereal crammed full of brans and flax seed. Sometimes I eat a Wasa cracker or 2. For beverages, I drink water, but more often water with a lemon or lime squeezed and plunked in with some Splenda. You are going to want to control your blood glucose (bg) numbers. If they are over 126 too much, it will cause permanent damage in your heart, give you neuropathy or make you blind. Something I'm sure you'd rather avoid! ;-) So, ask lots of questions, read some books and find out what is best for you. (wsm311@...) Peace and Carrots Farm Vermont http://www.homestead.com/peaceandcarrots/ http://www.heathershikinghiatus.netfirms.com/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VermontHomesteaders/join Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2002 Report Share Posted July 15, 2002 In a message dated 7/15/2002 6:42:19 AM Eastern Daylight Time, vmarks@... writes: > Maybe i can learn something from this site Hi and welcome to the group. Since diabetes is not a " one size fits all " , my recommendation is that you read everything you can about diabetes. The best thing to do is cut back on fats and carbs (especially potatoes, rice, white bread, etc) until you get your bg's in control. After getting in control, you may be able to add small portions of these foods. The only way to find out what you can and cannot eat, is to eat a small portion of the food, then test 2 hrs later. If you are not satisfied with your doctor, you are not going to control diabetes. I would suggest you try another doctor. The relationship we have with our doctor(s) play a major role in how well we handle our health problems. Keep us posted on how you are doing. Eunice Type 2 - A1c June 2002 = 5.9 Sensible eating/exercise/positive attitude/Faith in God Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2002 Report Share Posted July 15, 2002 > I was diagniosed last July with type II I havent really done anything > about it. I have a crummy Doc and she thinks i can figure out what I > am suppose to do all by my self. I am on Glucatrol right now, I have > only been on it a week. Maybe i can learn something from this site. Hi and welcome to the list! You'll definitely learn lots here. And have a lot of support to keep on track and do the right things. There are some great websites and books out there about the basics of diabetes. Or, ask your local hospital if they offer a diabetes education class, which are often covered by insurance. It doesn't take much time or effort to learn the basic stuff that we need to know to manage diabetes. I think it's great that you joined the list and are ready to start doing something about diabetes - left untreated it can do bad stuff to us. But, with some effort, it's manageable. There are some wonderful " success stories " on this list who are very knowledgeable and willing to share their programs with you. Ask lots of questions! I'm glad you joined us! Jacki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2002 Report Share Posted July 15, 2002 > I was diagniosed last July with type II I havent really done anything > about it. I have a crummy Doc and she thinks i can figure out what I > am suppose to do all by my self. I am on Glucatrol right now, I have > only been on it a week. Maybe i can learn something from this site. CeaCea, one of the best books for the newly diagnosed, or anyone else who wants to learn about diabetes.IMO, is The First Year Type 2 Diabetes: An Essential Guide for the Newly Diagnosed by Gretchen Becker. It's extremely informative and well balanced, and takes you step by step through the process of living with this disease. I highly recommend it. It's available at most large book stores or at Amazon.com. Hope that helps! Christy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2002 Report Share Posted July 16, 2002 > What is your source for the 126mg/dL standard? I've seen this number used a > few times but I don't know what it's based on. The ADA guidline as I was > taught it is <140mg/dL two hours after a meal. Except when I even *think* > of a bakery:) my readings are usually well within range. > > My diabetes educator says 110, but the ADA says 126 as the point where one becomes " diabetic " . If you are diabetic and don't get bg down, damage occurs. The ADA says you should keep bg's below 140, 2 hours after eating. I think it is to make people feel better! Damage is happening at 140. A " normal " person has a bg under 110. If you would like to have no complications, you should strive to keep bgs in the range of normal folks. This is much more difficult, but what I am trying for. Thanks to megace and prednisone, I've had a few high bg's, but my average bg for the last 6 weeks is right around 100. I do that by only eating carbs from fruits, vegetables and other good stuff....no bread, pasta, rice, etc. (wsm311@...) Peace and Carrots Farm Vermont http://www.homestead.com/peaceandcarrots/ http://www.heathershikinghiatus.netfirms.com/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VermontHomesteaders/join Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2002 Report Share Posted July 16, 2002 In a message dated 7/16/2002 5:16:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Max_Penn@... writes: > What is your source for the 126mg/dL standard? Hi Max, According to information I have a fasting sugar reading of 126 or higher on 2 occasions is used to diagnose diabetes. The goal for 2 hours after eating is 140 or less. This is according to Joslin and ADA. I prefer my bg's to be 120 or less after eating, but I know it is not always going to happen. As long as my A1c is 6.5 or lower, I'm happy. Eunice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2002 Report Share Posted July 16, 2002 (anyone else who can tell me), What is your source for the 126mg/dL standard? I've seen this number used a few times but I don't know what it's based on. The ADA guidline as I was taught it is <140mg/dL two hours after a meal. Except when I even *think* of a bakery:) my readings are usually well within range. I also wonder if Canadian diabetes organisations have published standards that differ from the ADA. I know they have to be converted to a standard reading but can participants from other countries tell us what benchmarks or desirable or undesirable levels are according to their data? Max <BR> You are going to want to control your blood glucose (bg) numbers. If they are <BR> over 126 too much, it will cause permanent damage in your heart, give you <BR> neuropathy or make you blind. Something I'm sure you'd rather avoid! ;-) So, <BR> ask lots of questions, read some books and find out what is best for you.<BR> <BR> (wsm311@...)<BR> Peace and Carrots Farm<BR> Vermont <BR> <BR> -- _______________________________________________ Download the free Opera browser at http://www.opera.com/ Free OperaMail at http://www.operamail.com/ Powered by Outblaze Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2002 Report Share Posted July 17, 2002 http://www.diabetes.org/diabetescare/FullText/ClinicalDiabetes/V18N200/pg69.htm Here's one link that mentions it. I think the <140-after-a-meal that you mention is the desired number for diabetics, not the number that dianoses diabetes. HTH, Robb Topolski http://www.funchords.com From Max Penn on 16 Jul 2002: > What is your source for the 126mg/dL standard? I've seen this number > used a few times but I don't know what it's based on. The ADA guidline > as I was taught it is <140mg/dL two hours after a meal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2002 Report Share Posted July 17, 2002 Thanks, that makes all these numbers fit into a context that makes sense. [if knowing that it is used for washing cars makes you want to swear off water, have you ever considered what FISH do in it? It makes that expensive liquified glacier in a bottle more attractive, dontcha think? Personally I'm satisfied with the stuff that comes from our well. We do get it tested every year.] Re: Hi everyone.. <html><body> <tt> <a href= " http://www.diabetes.org/diabetescare/FullText/ClinicalDiabetes/V18N200/pg6\ 9.htm " target= " _blank " >http://www.diabetes.org/diabetescare/FullText/ClinicalDiabetes/V\ 18N200/pg69.htm</a><BR> -- _______________________________________________ Download the free Opera browser at http://www.opera.com/ Free OperaMail at http://www.operamail.com/ Powered by Outblaze Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2002 Report Share Posted July 17, 2002 Max: My understanding is that 140 was the old cutoff for diagnosis. The new standard is a fasting reading of 126 or higher on two separate occasions. Carol W. _____________________________________________________________ > (anyone else who can tell me), > > What is your source for the 126mg/dL standard? I've seen this number used a few times but I don't know what it's based on. The ADA guidline as I was taught it is <140mg/dL two hours after a meal. Except when I even *think* of a bakery:) my readings are usually well within range. > > I also wonder if Canadian diabetes organisations have published standards that differ from the ADA. I know they have to be converted to a standard reading but can participants from other countries tell us what benchmarks or desirable or undesirable levels are according to their data? > > Max > > > > > <BR> > You are going to want to control your blood glucose (bg) numbers. If they are <BR> > over 126 too much, it will cause permanent damage in your heart, give you <BR> > neuropathy or make you blind. Something I'm sure you'd rather avoid! ;-) So, <BR> > ask lots of questions, read some books and find out what is best for you.<BR> > <BR> > (wsm311@a...)<BR> > Peace and Carrots Farm<BR> > Vermont <BR> > <BR> > > -- > _______________________________________________ > Download the free Opera browser at http://www.opera.com/ > > Free OperaMail at http://www.operamail.com/ > > Powered by Outblaze Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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