Disclosure? Employment issues

[Guest guest]

I felt I had to jump in on this discussion. I agree with Connie

about the fact that it would be easier to take if the decision was

one that you made on your own. After reading 's post, it sounds

like we worked at the same kind of place, maybe the same company.

I work/worked for a company that has offices all over the world.

Last summer my manager asked me if I wanted to take sick time. He

told me that with the time that I had put in that I was eligible for

up to 52 weeks off with FULL salary. I said I didn't want to stop

working and fought it for almost a year. After missing some key sales

meetings and cancelling business trips, they started to ask me

again.

I went to talk to someone in Human Resources (HR) and he was real

honest with me. He told me that although the company would never let

me go because of my illness, I could always be part of a " resource

action " due to performance issues. He also brought something up that

I hadn't thought of before. Most programs at big companies, such as

promotions, pay raises and even training, are put in place

for " retention " purposes. If you were a manager who had to deside

between one employee who had many years left with the company and one

who may not be around much longer, who do you think will get the

raise/promotion? Afterall, they have a business to run.

So like , at first I was mad and wondered why they would do

this to me after 20 years of service! In retrospect though I think it

is for the best. With the morning sickness that I have posted about

and other problems I have been doing pretty bad. Last week when I was

real sick my wife asked if I would like to be on a business trip and

feel like I did. No way!! So like , I feel better thinking that

they just were looking out for me and my best interest. There aren't

many employers who let you take " early retirement " with a nice salary

and medical benefits for life except maybe the government.

-- Bob

[Guest guest]

Hi Bob, You know it's true that many companies " say " that they do not

discriminate because of an illness, but just as your HR Representative told

you, they can always find ways around the law like his example of " resource

action " .

However, as a HR person, I'm very surprised that he would let his little

secret out. That is like admitting that they go ahead and discriminate but

call it something else and his statement in itself screams of

discrimination. You're old HR person needs to learn " to zip his lips! "

Because if he told the wrong person that information, his company would most

likely be up for a discrimination law suit, even though, he thought that he

was doing you a favor by letting you in on business practices.

It is most definitely all about the bottom line and not about their HUMAN

RESOURCES (people) in the business community. It was nice to hear from you

and it sounds like you're happy and have adjusted well to your situation

though. I think that we would be very surprised at how many times this same

situation has probably happened within the business community! Connie,

USA

Disclosure? Employment issues

I felt I had to jump in on this discussion. I agree with Connie

about the fact that it would be easier to take if the decision was

one that you made on your own. After reading 's post, it sounds

like we worked at the same kind of place, maybe the same company.

I work/worked for a company that has offices all over the world.

Last summer my manager asked me if I wanted to take sick time. He

told me that with the time that I had put in that I was eligible for

up to 52 weeks off with FULL salary. I said I didn't want to stop

working and fought it for almost a year. After missing some key sales

meetings and cancelling business trips, they started to ask me

again.

I went to talk to someone in Human Resources (HR) and he was real

honest with me. He told me that although the company would never let

me go because of my illness, I could always be part of a " resource

action " due to performance issues. He also brought something up that

I hadn't thought of before. Most programs at big companies, such as

promotions, pay raises and even training, are put in place

for " retention " purposes. If you were a manager who had to deside

between one employee who had many years left with the company and one

who may not be around much longer, who do you think will get the

raise/promotion? Afterall, they have a business to run.

So like , at first I was mad and wondered why they would do

this to me after 20 years of service! In retrospect though I think it

is for the best. With the morning sickness that I have posted about

and other problems I have been doing pretty bad. Last week when I was

real sick my wife asked if I would like to be on a business trip and

feel like I did. No way!! So like , I feel better thinking that

they just were looking out for me and my best interest. There aren't

many employers who let you take " early retirement " with a nice salary

and medical benefits for life except maybe the government.

-- Bob

[Guest guest]

I think our main problem as IgAners is that we are not easy to fix - you

can't just put in a wheelchair ramp or low desk to allow us to be

productive. In Australia, employers have a duty of care to ensure we are

not injured or killed in the performance of our duties, so they have to make

allowances for disability such as arranging assistance for heavy lifting.

This could extend to not sending staff away on business, and would be

subject to HR/Management coordination.

Reply-To: iga-nephropathy

To: <iga-nephropathy >

Subject: RE: Disclosure? Employment issues

Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 17:30:02 -0400

Hi Bob, You know it's true that many companies " say " that they do not

discriminate because of an illness, but just as your HR Representative told

you, they can always find ways around the law like his example of " resource

action " . However, as a HR person, I'm very surprised that he would let his

little secret out. That is like admitting that they go ahead and

discriminate but call it something else and his statement in itself screams

of discrimination. You're old HR person needs to learn " to zip his lips! "

Because if he told the wrong person that information, his company would most

likely be up for a discrimination law suit, even though, he thought that he

was doing you a favor by letting you in on business practices. It is most

definitely all about the bottom line and not about their HUMAN RESOURCES

(people) in the business community. It was nice to hear from you and it

sounds like you're happy and have adjusted well to your situation though.

I think that we would be very surprised at how many times this same

situation has probably happened within the business community! Connie,

USA

Disclosure? Employment issues

I felt I had to jump in on this discussion. I agree with Connie

about the fact that it would be easier to take if the decision was

one that you made on your own. After reading 's post, it sounds

like we worked at the same kind of place, maybe the same company.

I work/worked for a company that has offices all over the world.

Last summer my manager asked me if I wanted to take sick time. He

told me that with the time that I had put in that I was eligible for

up to 52 weeks off with FULL salary. I said I didn't want to stop

working and fought it for almost a year. After missing some key sales

meetings and cancelling business trips, they started to ask me

again.

I went to talk to someone in Human Resources (HR) and he was real

honest with me. He told me that although the company would never let

me go because of my illness, I could always be part of a " resource

action " due to performance issues. He also brought something up that

I hadn't thought of before. Most programs at big companies, such as

promotions, pay raises and even training, are put in place

for " retention " purposes. If you were a manager who had to deside

between one employee who had many years left with the company and one

who may not be around much longer, who do you think will get the

raise/promotion? Afterall, they have a business to run.

So like , at first I was mad and wondered why they would do

this to me after 20 years of service! In retrospect though I think it

is for the best. With the morning sickness that I have posted about

and other problems I have been doing pretty bad. Last week when I was

real sick my wife asked if I would like to be on a business trip and

feel like I did. No way!! So like , I feel better thinking that

they just were looking out for me and my best interest. There aren't

many employers who let you take " early retirement " with a nice salary

and medical benefits for life except maybe the government.

-- Bob