Re: where do the Deaf work????

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From: " Nisha Barochia "

1) If you are deaf/HoH, where do you work?<-----anywhere they want to. Just

because you don't have any hearing doesn't make you an invalid. I mean why

conider a career change because of your hearing?

My biggest problem will

be understanding the lecture/training. I am asking for CART

services<----CART is fine. It's good for lectures if you don't Sign.

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Go with the Real Time Captioning for your classes. I went

that route and it works VERY well.

-Earl

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In a message dated 3/2/00 10:58:36 PM US Mountain Standard Time,

mark_sarmac@... writes:

<<

1) If you are deaf/HoH, where do you work?<-----anywhere they want to. Just

because you don't have any hearing doesn't make you an invalid. I mean why

conider a career change because of your hearing?

>>

Mark,

Slow down here buddy lol. Nisha never said being deaf meant being

invalid. If you read one of her previous posts in said she used to work as

some kind of costumer service representative...in most cases that would

require hearing, talking with customers etc. If she doesn't feel comfortable

(and I'd wager to say most of us deafies wouldn't and of course there are

exceptions) then why not find a new career. I used to work with

developmentally disabled adults. I couldn't hear what they were saying to me

anymore, felt like I could not perform as well as I used to so decided to

change careers. I also questioned what it was I could or could not do.

Couldn't do a lot of secretarial work bc of the phone, didn't want to do

things like customer service bc of how much I would have to interact with

hearing ppl that wouldn't always understand. There are lots of other jobs out

there we CAN do, but it's not always easy finding them. I'm really surprised

you spoke up like that bc I know you have personally changed your major at

least twice bc of this very reason. )

Nisha I know a bit of ASL, but I usually use a CART also. Makes it easier

not to miss out on anything. Another plus of it is the CART reporter can

print out the whole class notes. No need for a note taker unless you want

one. At junior colleges it's a bit harder to get them to pay for CART because

it is so much more expensive than an interp. I'd highly suggest you call your

local Vocational Rehabilitation facility. They can even help you find a job

if you do choose not to go to school, that's what the whole point of VR is. I

use them myself and they pay 100% of my tuition AND all assisitve devises

costs. I wouldn't have been able to go back to school if it wasn't for VR.

Every state has one, and they sometimes go by different names such as Bureau

of Vocational Rehabilitation, or VR department of economics, you'll just have

to look around most likely under the gov't section of your phone book. Keep

us posted on how everything goes. I know it's frustrating looking for a job,

at least getting your foot in the door, but don't give up you'll find

something!

(If you have any questions about any of this you can always contact me at

Misha64@... my screen name for IM's is just Misha64)

PS Now I work part time from home for a registering company for American

Warmblood Olympic horses. I do all of the electronic PR and also new member

consultation. Lots of computer work! )

Thanks,

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Thanks everyone for their ideas... Yes, I used to do Customer Service for a

large publishing company. Now it's not something I would enjoy, since I

can't hear the people I am trying to help over the phone. So I been working

with Mass Rehab and have decided to go back to get a Certificate in Web

Designer/Web Application Development. I have some HTML experience and hope

to go back to this educational publishing company (I really like this

company) and put my skills to work in a different department.

Thanks for all your suggestions about interpreters/CART. I am on the phone

trying to get everything to match up and work out. Stressful and

frustrating, yes, but I believe I'll soon be on my way to a new successful

career.

THANK YOU AS ALWAYS,

-nisha

From: misha64@...

Reply-To: NF2_Crewonelist

To: NF2_Crewonelist

Subject: Re: where do the Deaf work????

Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 06:20:07 EST

From: misha64@...

In a message dated 3/2/00 10:58:36 PM US Mountain Standard Time,

mark_sarmac@... writes:

<<

1) If you are deaf/HoH, where do you work?<-----anywhere they want to.

Just

because you don't have any hearing doesn't make you an invalid. I mean why

conider a career change because of your hearing?

>>

Mark,

Slow down here buddy lol. Nisha never said being deaf meant being

invalid. If you read one of her previous posts in said she used to work as

some kind of costumer service representative...in most cases that would

require hearing, talking with customers etc. If she doesn't feel comfortable

(and I'd wager to say most of us deafies wouldn't and of course there are

exceptions) then why not find a new career. I used to work with

developmentally disabled adults. I couldn't hear what they were saying to me

anymore, felt like I could not perform as well as I used to so decided to

change careers. I also questioned what it was I could or could not do.

Couldn't do a lot of secretarial work bc of the phone, didn't want to do

things like customer service bc of how much I would have to interact with

hearing ppl that wouldn't always understand. There are lots of other jobs

out

there we CAN do, but it's not always easy finding them. I'm really surprised

you spoke up like that bc I know you have personally changed your major at

least twice bc of this very reason. )

Nisha I know a bit of ASL, but I usually use a CART also. Makes it

easier

not to miss out on anything. Another plus of it is the CART reporter can

print out the whole class notes. No need for a note taker unless you want

one. At junior colleges it's a bit harder to get them to pay for CART

because

it is so much more expensive than an interp. I'd highly suggest you call

your

local Vocational Rehabilitation facility. They can even help you find a job

if you do choose not to go to school, that's what the whole point of VR is.

I

use them myself and they pay 100% of my tuition AND all assisitve devises

costs. I wouldn't have been able to go back to school if it wasn't for VR.

Every state has one, and they sometimes go by different names such as Bureau

of Vocational Rehabilitation, or VR department of economics, you'll just

have

to look around most likely under the gov't section of your phone book. Keep

us posted on how everything goes. I know it's frustrating looking for a job,

at least getting your foot in the door, but don't give up you'll find

something!

(If you have any questions about any of this you can always contact me at

Misha64@... my screen name for IM's is just Misha64)

PS Now I work part time from home for a registering company for American

Warmblood Olympic horses. I do all of the electronic PR and also new member

consultation. Lots of computer work! )

Thanks,

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I work for the state of FL, Dept of Revenue. Its a regular office job, lots of

computer work. Deafness does not hinder my job, only the social aspects. As

for school, I have been denied CART on the grounds that it is too expensive at

the JR college I attend. I have spoken with a lawyer and now the school is

about to offer me what's called C-Print. It is a a way to transcribe a lecture

with a computer program. I have never heard of ittil now and am leery. FGood

luck to you.

Nisha Barochia wrote:

>

>

> Ok here are two more questions I need help with

>

> 1) If you are deaf/HoH, where do you work? I am curious because I'm looking

> for a career change and was wondering what you all do for a living.

>

> 2) Mike, I'm signed up to take Web Design classes. My biggest problem will

> be understanding the lecture/training. I am asking for CART services but

> does anyone have a better idea about how to take classes if I am deaf?

> Sorry, I can't sign.

>

> any ideas/advice would be great. thanks.

> -nisha

> nb1977@...

>

>

> Reply-To: NF2_Crewonelist

> To: NF2_Crewonelist

> Subject: Re: web developers out there?

> Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 17:33:10 -0500

>

>

>

> Take classes, you can do it. Adam did it for a living. In fact his

> web site for WDIV in Detroit won all sorts of awards and was rated #1 for

> a loooooong time. NF2 does not have to slow you down.

> Mike

>

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Regarding taking classes...I remember that I was just starting my sophomore

year in college when I began having problems. I left school, had 2

surgeries (the left in October and the right in December), and went back to

classes in September. Of course, I was totally deaf and did not know sign

language. So, what I would do is tape the class, bring it home and my Dad,

God bless him, would type out the class notes on the computer.

Well, I have to tell you that I got the best grades in the class. Every

class that I took. Why? Because of the notes AND (very importantly) I read

the text book.

Depending on what kind of classes you take, maybe some one-on-one with the

instructor or a good student that the instructor recommends?

June

[Guest guest]

Become a proof reader for the publishing company!!!

Mikey

At 09:07 AM 3/3/2000 EST, you wrote:

>

>

>Thanks everyone for their ideas... Yes, I used to do Customer Service for a

>large publishing company.

[Guest guest]

This is a good idea Mickey !!! When I went deaf I just built on what I knew

how to do. Most people will go out of their way to give someone like us a

break. Just don't tell them how many people are giving you a lucky break.

The more people that do you good, the better you do. ( Giving away my

biggest secret here !!! )

MARCUS

>

>

>Become a proof reader for the publishing company!!!

>Mikey

>

>

>At 09:07 AM 3/3/2000 EST, you wrote:

>>

>>

>>Thanks everyone for their ideas... Yes, I used to do Customer Service for

a

>>large publishing company.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>>>>Most people will go out of their way to give someone like us a

break. Just don't tell them how many people are giving you a lucky break.

The more people that do you good, the better you do. ( Giving away my

biggest secret here !!! )

MARCUS

____________

That's almost never the case in the U.S. The ADA was passed YEARS ago and Title

I involving employment regs. is the most widely litigated topic in the U.S.

Change comes slow. I work in Human Resources fulltime, and I do consulting part

time. I've also been a guest on a local cable TV show the last 4 weeks (well

tonite is week #4) talking about the disabled in the workplace, advising job

seekers and employers alike. I've seen the issue from both sides and know we

have a long way to go to get past stereotyping and discrimination. Employers are

AFRAID to hire us because they fear they'll say or do something wrong and get

sued. I'm generalizing here, but only to make a point. Most employers do know

they have to base hiring decisions on your abilities not your disabilities. But

we still gotta get by that human desire to not be uncomfortable with those who

are different. I have had interviews where the recruiter couldn't even look at

my screwed up face. Big shock, I didn't get those!

jobs.

Its not about luck, its knowing what your skills and capabilities are and going

after a job you know you can do and will enjoy, and don't let anybody else tell

you different. The web developer, and almost any computer field, is a really

good direction to go. Hearing is not required and down the line if you have

mobility probs, you can do it from home.

-Pat

[Guest guest]

Nisha,

How about an editor for this publishing company?

Mark

Mikey suggested proofreading. I considered that but

it seems like a dead end job (no offense to any proofreaders out there). I

picture myself doing something where I can slowly (or quickly) move up the

ladder and be quite succesful.

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Hi all.

Thanks for the continuing support and suggestions. Yes I did do customer

service for the publishing company and yes I don't enjoy it anymore since I

can't use the phone... Mikey suggested proofreading. I considered that but

it seems like a dead end job (no offense to any proofreaders out there). I

picture myself doing something where I can slowly (or quickly) move up the

ladder and be quite succesful. What I learned about proofreading is that..

well it's just proofreading and that's it. No way to " move up " really. So

the Web Design idea is really growing on me. And as Pat said, if there were

any mobility problems in the future, I'd have the option of working from

home. And the computer field is " friendly " to the Deaf. So I think I am

set in my decision and you all have encouraged me and made me feel this is

an appropriate choice. Thanks!

I have my appt tomorrow at Boston Univ to get CART services set up. Wish me

luck that they don't give me a big hassle!

-nisha

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To: NF2_Crewonelist

Subject: Re: where do the Deaf work????

Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 15:04:32 EST

From: pdillon438@...

>>>>Most people will go out of their way to give someone like us a

break. Just don't tell them how many people are giving you a lucky break.

The more people that do you good, the better you do. ( Giving away my

biggest secret here !!! )

MARCUS

____________

That's almost never the case in the U.S. The ADA was passed YEARS ago and

Title I involving employment regs. is the most widely litigated topic in the

U.S. Change comes slow. I work in Human Resources fulltime, and I do

consulting part time. I've also been a guest on a local cable TV show the

last 4 weeks (well tonite is week #4) talking about the disabled in the

workplace, advising job seekers and employers alike. I've seen the issue

from both sides and know we have a long way to go to get past stereotyping

and discrimination. Employers are AFRAID to hire us because they fear

they'll say or do something wrong and get sued. I'm generalizing here, but

only to make a point. Most employers do know they have to base hiring

decisions on your abilities not your disabilities. But we still gotta get by

that human desire to not be uncomfortable with those who are different. I

have had interviews where the recruiter couldn't even look at my screwed up

face. Big shock, I didn't get those!

jobs.

Its not about luck, its knowing what your skills and capabilities are and

going after a job you know you can do and will enjoy, and don't let anybody

else tell you different. The web developer, and almost any computer field,

is a really good direction to go. Hearing is not required and down the line

if you have mobility probs, you can do it from home.

-Pat

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hi mark,

editing was also something i looked into and is definately up there in my

choices. of course.. i have to be really good at english and they prefer

English/Journalism majors... so no matter what kind of change i want to do,

i'll have to go back for a little schooling. so i figure i'd try and get

into this hot Web Design career track since i've dabbled in web stuff before

and i think it's really interesting. i plan to incorporate both and do some

Web " editing " . whaddya think?

-nisha

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To: NF2_Crewonelist

Subject: Re: where do the Deaf work????

Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 15:10:42 PST

Nisha,

How about an editor for this publishing company?

Mark

Mikey suggested proofreading. I considered that but

it seems like a dead end job (no offense to any proofreaders out there). I

picture myself doing something where I can slowly (or quickly) move up the

ladder and be quite succesful.

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In a message dated 3/6/2000 9:30:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, mcdrew@...

writes:

<< kind of thought with

spell check available now, proof reading was kind of out. marie >>

They're, their now Marie..spell chuckers don't catch every ting.

Pete

Who couldn't resist

[Guest guest]

I am on SS Disability, but as Joanie said allowed to earn either $300 or

$700 a month; the proof reading you mentioned really seemed like a good

idea; any idea how one might find out if something like this might be

available part time? I live in the Pittsburgh area. I kind of thought with

spell check available now, proof reading was kind of out. marie

Re: where do the Deaf work????

>Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 15:04:32 EST

>

>From: pdillon438@...

>

>

>

>

> >>>>Most people will go out of their way to give someone like us a

> break. Just don't tell them how many people are giving you a lucky break.

> The more people that do you good, the better you do. ( Giving away my

> biggest secret here !!! )

>

> MARCUS

>____________

>

>That's almost never the case in the U.S. The ADA was passed YEARS ago and

>Title I involving employment regs. is the most widely litigated topic in

the

>U.S. Change comes slow. I work in Human Resources fulltime, and I do

>consulting part time. I've also been a guest on a local cable TV show the

>last 4 weeks (well tonite is week #4) talking about the disabled in the

>workplace, advising job seekers and employers alike. I've seen the issue

>from both sides and know we have a long way to go to get past stereotyping

>and discrimination. Employers are AFRAID to hire us because they fear

>they'll say or do something wrong and get sued. I'm generalizing here, but

>only to make a point. Most employers do know they have to base hiring

>decisions on your abilities not your disabilities. But we still gotta get

by

>that human desire to not be uncomfortable with those who are different. I

>have had interviews where the recruiter couldn't even look at my screwed up

>face. Big shock, I didn't get those!

> jobs.

>

>Its not about luck, its knowing what your skills and capabilities are and

>going after a job you know you can do and will enjoy, and don't let anybody

>else tell you different. The web developer, and almost any computer field,

>is a really good direction to go. Hearing is not required and down the line

>if you have mobility probs, you can do it from home.

>

>-Pat

>

>

>

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>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

----- i hear the CIA is looking for snipers for contract hit work lol-

seriously i agree that web page design, would be a good way to go. -speedy

[Guest guest]

Pat

I'm sure this happens in Australia too ! I work for myself,, this started

small, just to get my foot in the door. In my case I have just kept on

building from that, like all business' . Now I'm getting older I have an

assistant that does all the heavy work.

My insurance company was very sceptical about me working and being deaf, so

they put a clause in to exclude any accidents that occurred due to me being

deaf.. Which could be just about anything.

What I'm really trying to point out here is YES get those computer skills.

One day you may want to start a business of your own. You don't just have to

work for someone else. The odd thing for me was that I never really helped

myself until I became deaf.. They must have messed around with my

MOTIVATION neurones in surgery.

Marcus

>From: pdillon438@...

>

>

>

>

>>>>>Most people will go out of their way to give someone like us a

> break. Just don't tell them how many people are giving you a lucky break.

> The more people that do you good, the better you do. ( Giving away my

> biggest secret here !!! )

>

> MARCUS

>____________

>

>That's almost never the case in the U.S. The ADA was passed YEARS ago and

Title I involving employment regs. is the most widely litigated topic in the

U.S. Change comes slow. I work in Human Resources fulltime, and I do

consulting part time. I've also been a guest on a local cable TV show the

last 4 weeks (well tonite is week #4) talking about the disabled in the

workplace, advising job seekers and employers alike. I've seen the issue

from both sides and know we have a long way to go to get past stereotyping

and discrimination. Employers are AFRAID to hire us because they fear

they'll say or do something wrong and get sued. I'm generalizing here, but

only to make a point. Most employers do know they have to base hiring

decisions on your abilities not your disabilities. But we still gotta get by

that human desire to not be uncomfortable with those who are different. I

have had interviews where the recruiter couldn't even look at my screwed up

face. Big shock, I didn't get those!

> jobs.

>

>Its not about luck, its knowing what your skills and capabilities are and

going after a job you know you can do and will enjoy, and don't let anybody

else tell you different. The web developer, and almost any computer field,

is a really good direction to go. Hearing is not required and down the line

if you have mobility probs, you can do it from home.

>

>-Pat

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi everyone,

Just thought I'd let you know that I made my tuition deposit on my Web

Designer course at Boston Univ! I met with the admissions person today and

he said they are going to work hard and get me a CART person. Woo Hoo!! So

it should be set and soon enough I'll be on my way to a new and fabulous

career. Thanks for all your support during this hectic time.

Also, welcome to the newcomers... I am 22 so us younguns can form an

alliance against the old fogies here. =)

-nisha

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Marie and other publishing-wannabes

I've looked into Editing/Proofreading/Spellchecker/etc.... these days most

everything is done electronically/computer so they require that you have

some computer know-how. Specifically publishers seem to like Microsoft

Publisher, QuarkExpress, FrontPage.. things like that. I suggest you go to

a publishers website and look at their job openings. I get my info from

places such at hmco.com, randomhouse.com, etc.

good luck,

Nisha

>

>Reply-To: NF2_Crewonelist

>To: <NF2_Crewonelist>

>Subject: Re: where do the Deaf work????

>Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 19:38:14 -0500

>

>

>

>I am on SS Disability, but as Joanie said allowed to earn either $300 or

>$700 a month; the proof reading you mentioned really seemed like a good

>idea; any idea how one might find out if something like this might be

>available part time? I live in the Pittsburgh area. I kind of thought

>with

>spell check available now, proof reading was kind of out. marie

>

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Actually, I think you younguns have us old fogies outnumbered!

Marie Congratulations on a smart decision.

Re: where do the Deaf work????

>

>

>Hi everyone,

>

>Just thought I'd let you know that I made my tuition deposit on my Web

>Designer course at Boston Univ! I met with the admissions person today and

>he said they are going to work hard and get me a CART person. Woo Hoo!!

So

>it should be set and soon enough I'll be on my way to a new and fabulous

>career. Thanks for all your support during this hectic time.

>

>Also, welcome to the newcomers... I am 22 so us younguns can form an

>alliance against the old fogies here. =)

>

>-nisha

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>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hey Nisha!

Congrats on your education and career move. I know how confusing a decision

that is to make.

What is a CART person? I am looking at going back to school again too.

Dang! It looks like I am going to become a professional student afterall!

- Beck )

[Guest guest]

Hey Nisha!

That alliance against the fogies sounds pretty good.....not that I have

anything against them.

So you're going to Boston U. I'm a native of Massachusetts (live in

Florida now). I graduate from high school next year and thinking of

applying to Miami U since it's close to home (about an hour) and I have a

few doctors there.

What's a CART person? Is it assistance going from class to class?

Right now I am getting home school because I have no hearing in my right ear

and minimal in my left. I juggle six classes plus I'm learning sign

language to help in crowded rooms. I'm exhausted by the weekend.

Re: where do the Deaf work????

>

>

>Hi everyone,

>

>Just thought I'd let you know that I made my tuition deposit on my Web

>Designer course at Boston Univ! I met with the admissions person today and

>he said they are going to work hard and get me a CART person. Woo Hoo!!

So

>it should be set and soon enough I'll be on my way to a new and fabulous

>career. Thanks for all your support during this hectic time.

>

>Also, welcome to the newcomers... I am 22 so us younguns can form an

>alliance against the old fogies here. =)

>

>-nisha

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>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Anyone with computer skill is becoming more and more employable, regardless

of their physical attributes.

Every website you go to has an email response address, which someone needs

to support and answer. Did you as the customer , care if the person on the

other end has a limitation...or that just that you got a prompt response?

Many of these cyberjobs can be done at Home offices ..eliminating the need

to commute. Support jobs can be technical or just about " how to cook a

turkey " at the butterball site. Lots of posibilities if you have an area of

expertise and a little computer literacy. And most companies do a poor job

at responding cyber contact and might just want a " focused " individual in

that area.

I know you can use a computer if you're reading this..........

Mark