Re: a cleansing journey

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I have been doing major detox since last may all the things you talk about are the body getting rid of unwanted toxins.They can come from anywhere in the body.The foggy feeling i had went after the first week I was surprised as i thought it had already lifted long before then.I can eat things i have not been able to eat since coming off of paxil and i am finaly starting to put some weight on.The doctor said i am 90 % better just 10% left to go.

On another note i have to call my mum as her dog licked a posonous pine worm and its tongue is all swollen and it might have to have its tongue cut off or be put down and the last thing i want to hear on this planet is my mum crying.

Hugs Ros

[Guest guest]

Hi Everyone ,

I was dreading making that phone call to mum as she cried all day yesterday,it took me about 4 hours to pluck up the courage to make that phone call to find out if all was alright.I was so relieved that most of the swelling went down overnight and mum sounded more chearful on the phone the dog is doing well.

ROS

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

You said:

<< I began the cleanse Tuesday night, after waiting the minimum

amount of time told me to wait after stopping the last med.

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> The cleanse includes liver detox herbs, fiber and herbs, and

laxative herbs. I began with much smaller doses than what it said on

the package. Today is my first day at full dose.>>

** You may want to consider that the recommended full dose is a

general guide and that some people will require more or less.

You said:

During last week, I experienced fever and sore throat, my energy

was up and down. Yesterday was a very good day. Light and energetic.

<< One of the reasons I wanted to do a cleanse was because I had

read that it could relieve cravings for strong foods. I have felt

such an overwhelming need for chilis, garlic, onions, curry, soy

sauce, animal fats, and red meats. I've been that way a long time. I

was unable to diet because I had no tolerance for even the slightest

hunger. >>

** I have to question this. These spicy foods act as medicine.

Some people need these spices for balance.

<< Actually, I started taking psyllium fiber every day about two

weeks ago. I was testing my stomach to see if I could handle the

cleansing ingredients. Thanks to , my stomach is doing very

well.

<< Today I feel like a train wreck. Tired, spacy, unmotivated yet

restless at the same time, and cold. I am never cold. My ribs and

breasts ache. Ribs are a vulnerable area for me. I've also been

sneezing a lot.>>

** this is not necessarily a good thing. When cleansing

challenges the body so much the cleanse is too strong. I would

strongly suggest reducing the amount of cleanse that you are using.

<< So I took a hot shower and did a salt scrub. That helped a lot.

Toxins are released through the skin.

Emotions came out. I have not been emotional in a long time. Today

I felt sadness and loneliness. I spend 99% of my non-work time alone.

This was the first time to feel lonliness in years.>>

** Let me reinterpret this. Congratulations! Your internal

communication is working well. Without the sadness and the

loneliness you wouldn't know that you are feeling lonely. The drugs

take away this internal communication.

It's a very strange thing in this country. Many people have been

taught that they should not feel any unhappiness. People are also

taught to be helpless. So if someone has a motion but like the one

you're having, they don't know what to do with it. This is a skill

one should learn as a child that should be mastered by young

adulthood. But that doesn't happen often in America.

You've become aware of how you're feeling. Now you need to make a

plan for how to deal with it. I don't mean dealing with it by

ignoring it; I mean dealing with it by doing something to appease

that loneliness.

While we're not there physically with you, we are nearby in all

other ways. In fact, if we were just there physically and not

emotionally that would not be very satisfying to you.

I see the Internet as a step to a more advanced way to communicate

and be with each other. Look at the progression in communication

over the years. There was the time that it took months for a letter

to get from one person to another. We moved on from this to using

telephones. At first, we can only talk to our neighbors. Now we can

talk all around the world. With technology today, we not only can

speak in real-time , we can see each other.

Can you feel me close? I can feel you.

<< I wish I didn't have to go anywhere, but I'm going to my

overeater's anonymous meeting, and then to buy more organic

vegetables.>>

** Perhaps this is just what you need (for the loneliness).

Hang in there, . Please back off the detox little bit. After

withdrawal of these drugs cannot handle this kind of strong physical

challenge.

Regards,

[Guest guest]

Hi Ros, I'm so sorry about your mum's dog. I pray he will be okay. I wonder if homeopathy would help him? It is good of you to be there for her. Wow, 90% better, that is awesome! Way to go. I love to hear news like that. Hugs, __________________________________________________

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Hi and everyone, Thanks so much for your support! Yes, I can feel and all of you near me. You are the most wonderful people and I'm so glad I found you. I am so gratreful for our community. I was able to do everything I needed to do today. Very glad I went to the OA meeting. Several new people there. I like it so much better than AA. Then the most amazing thing happened. First of all, this morning I was wishing I could have a massage or see the chiropractor, even though I haven't had a massage in ten years. My back just felt all wrong. Later, when I went to the health food store, I noticed that there was a massage business next door. I never noticed it before. It was open. I had no idea there was store-front

massage anywhere. The woman was very nice and had time to give me a 30-minute treatment. She ended up working on "trigger points" which were sort of above my shoulder blades. It was incredibly helpful, I felt like she knew what she was doing, and I felt much better afterward. How awesome is that? It is not everyday that one just wanders around and ends up with a massage. I really felt like I was on the right track today. Part of the lonliness this morning was a deep need to be touched. The massage satisfied that, at least for now. , don't worry, I will keep eating all my spices, onions, and garlic, but need to put them on vegetables. And maybe use Ayurveda to be a little more directed about which spices. Also, I'm slowly converting my collection over to organic. My concern is that what I was actually eating was tons of fatty meat and rice, covered in spicy sauces, very large portions. But we've talked about that, and I am doing much better now that I am trying to eat more alkaline. That has changed my whole relationship to food. I am so grateful you brought that up. I will back off the detox herbs a bit and see how it goes. The lonliness is a challenge. I really do like my hermit lifestyle, but I am starting to realize I am not an island. The challenge is that I want to let people in a little but, but not much, and all under my control. I understand that life and relationships do not work that way. I've noticed small changes. Such as asking my coworker to go to the library with me at lunch instead of just going alone. And eating alone in

restaurants no longer appeals to me. Anyway, thanks again for listening to me ramble. Hugs and love,

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You are a star and you are doing so well.

Take it easy on yourself.

I love you very much

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Ros, look for a homeopathic vet online. This condition can be remedied.

C

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> Hi ,

> I have been doing major detox since last may all the things you talk about are

the body getting rid of unwanted toxins.They can come from anywhere in the

body.The foggy feeling i had went after the first week I was surprised as i

thought it had already lifted long before then.I can eat things i have not been

able to eat since coming off of paxil and i am finaly starting to put some

weight on.The doctor said i am 90 % better just 10% left to go.

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> On another note i have to call my mum as her dog licked a posonous pine worm

and its tongue is all swollen and it might have to have its tongue cut off or be

put down and the last thing i want to hear on this planet is my mum crying.

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> Hugs Ros

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[Guest guest]

" Anyway, thanks again for listening to me ramble. "

I like your rambling.......so much of what you wrote in your message

is how I feel on some days. I find it hard because I want company,

but from people that understand....if that makes sense. I don't want

company from people that sit around and tell me how many drugs doctors

dish out and how bad they feel when they are surviving on processed

food. That sounds selfish.......but at the moment I find listening to

it very draining. I want company from people like everyone on

here......people that are trying to get their lives back and working

so hard at getting it.

Here I am among people I admire and people who inspire me, I am among

people I love dearly.

x

[Guest guest]

" The doctor said i am 90 % better just 10% left to go. "

Ros, that is wonderful news. It's good to hear. I am sorry about

your Mum's dog, I hope he will be OK?

Thinking of you

Love x

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Everyone ,

> I was dreading making that phone call to mum as she cried all day

> yesterday,it took me about 4 hours to pluck up the courage to make

that phone call to

> find out if all was alright.I was so relieved that most of the

swelling went

> down overnight and mum sounded more chearful on the phone the dog is

doing

> well.

> ROS

>

**** Ros, I am so glad the dog is doing well. Sending you a huge hug.

Love xx

[Guest guest]

, I'm glad you had a nice surprise and was able to fit in a 30 minute massage that went well. Massages, which I usually have once a year really does make one feel so much better. I could really use one myself. I've been feeling stiff and achy lately. I too crave the need for touch. I ask my kids for hugs at times. I need to feel connected. Lately, I've been feeling really weirod and out of place - don't know why. I've been struggling with loneliness myself and trying to find the right balance between alone time and also time with others. Mostly I want to be with supportive people as well, If I can't spend time with my sister-in-law (who I'm fairly close to) then, I try to go out somewhere like a bookstore or shopping mall, some place where people are around, but don't demand attention. The

rubber walking mat on my treadmill tore and so I wasn't able to do my daily exercise all week. Exercise helps me so much and when I can't get in a good walk and jog I feel alittle yucky. I had it fixed yesterday, thank goodness. You are such a sweet and caring person. I'm glad to have the opportunity here at this group to get to know you. I send warm fuzzies your way to help relieve the loneliness. Hugs V. Skoog wrote: Yahoo! MailUse Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments.

[Guest guest]

" Back to loneliness and feeling isolated. Are these feelings part of

withdrawals? I just feel so lonely and disconnected "

YES! On the list of spirituality books also said about books

on codependence by Melody Beatty?

Love