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Re: Strange feelings in my legs

> I have been experiencing the same type of pain. It hits me when I sit down

> at night after being on my feet all day (I work in retail). It is hard to

> describe other than an " ache " in both legs. Sometimes heat works to

relieve

> the pain somewhat, if it really bothers me, I go to bed early. I just went

> to the neph this week, and my clearance went from 27 down to 13! He thinks

> that I may have been dehydrated during my 24 hr urine collection (I hope).

>

> (been " listening " to group for a while)

> New York State

>

Hi .

If it's dehydration bad enough to affect your creatinine number, then the

question you need to ask is, how did I get this dehydrated, and what do I

need to do to prevent it from happening. Dehydration is not a good thing for

your kidneys, and other things as well. Hopefully, it's that rather than

your real creatinine clearance though. Or even better, just a lab error. Are

you redoing another collection?

Pierre

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yes, in a couple weeks. In the meantime I have increased my water

intake.....and my bathroom visits!

Re: Strange feelings in my legs

>

>

> > I have been experiencing the same type of pain. It hits me when I sit

down

> > at night after being on my feet all day (I work in retail). It is hard

to

> > describe other than an " ache " in both legs. Sometimes heat works to

> relieve

> > the pain somewhat, if it really bothers me, I go to bed early. I just

went

> > to the neph this week, and my clearance went from 27 down to 13! He

thinks

> > that I may have been dehydrated during my 24 hr urine collection (I

hope).

> >

> > (been " listening " to group for a while)

> > New York State

> >

>

> Hi .

> If it's dehydration bad enough to affect your creatinine number, then the

> question you need to ask is, how did I get this dehydrated, and what do I

> need to do to prevent it from happening. Dehydration is not a good thing

for

> your kidneys, and other things as well. Hopefully, it's that rather than

> your real creatinine clearance though. Or even better, just a lab error.

Are

> you redoing another collection?

> Pierre

>

>

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,

Just curious about this. Are you on a diuretic, or on a really radical low

salt diet?

Pierre

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> >

> >

> > > I have been experiencing the same type of pain. It hits me when I sit

> down

> > > at night after being on my feet all day (I work in retail). It is hard

> to

> > > describe other than an " ache " in both legs. Sometimes heat works to

> > relieve

> > > the pain somewhat, if it really bothers me, I go to bed early. I just

> went

> > > to the neph this week, and my clearance went from 27 down to 13! He

> thinks

> > > that I may have been dehydrated during my 24 hr urine collection (I

> hope).

> > >

> > > (been " listening " to group for a while)

> > > New York State

> > >

> >

> > Hi .

> > If it's dehydration bad enough to affect your creatinine number, then

the

> > question you need to ask is, how did I get this dehydrated, and what do

I

> > need to do to prevent it from happening. Dehydration is not a good thing

> for

> > your kidneys, and other things as well. Hopefully, it's that rather than

> > your real creatinine clearance though. Or even better, just a lab error.

> Are

> > you redoing another collection?

> > Pierre

> >

> >

> >

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Pierre, he hasn't complained about them recently. By the way, one

of the common threads I read about here is fatigue and the need for

more sleep than most. is exactly that way. More sleep for him

is an absolute need. At first I thought he was just plain lazy (and

he probably is!) but he needs so much more sleep than his friends.

Why is that?

>

> Re: dehydration

>

>

> > My son, , has been complaining of severe stomach cramps in

the

> > middle of the night. Although he has had a good report from his

> > neph his past visit, could this be related? Pam

> >

>

>

> Hi Pam. Is still having the cramps?

> Pierre

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For the past month, since school has been out, my son (17) drags himself up

from his lower floor bedroom and suddenly appears for breakfast anywhere

between 1 and 3 in the afternoon. Maybe it's just a teenager thing.

I really don't know about IgAN and fatigue. I would think an episode of

acute nephritis with macro-hematuria and heavy proteinuria might make one

tired. Blood pressure drugs definitely can make a person feel listless. But

I don't know why just plain, ordinary, uncomplicated IgAN can do that, until

it becomes more advanced renal failure with anemia, etc. I'm not dismissing

it, but I don't think anyone can really explain it.

Pierre

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> >

> >

> > > My son, , has been complaining of severe stomach cramps in

> the

> > > middle of the night. Although he has had a good report from his

> > > neph his past visit, could this be related? Pam

> > >

> >

> >

> > Hi Pam. Is still having the cramps?

> > Pierre

>

>

>

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I saw a BBC show with Dr Winston a few weeks ago. Teenagers REALLY

do need the extra sleep to help them deal with all the changes as their

bodeis mature.

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To: <iga-nephropathy >

Subject: Re: dehydration

Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2002 19:38:30 -0400

For the past month, since school has been out, my son (17) drags himself up

from his lower floor bedroom and suddenly appears for breakfast anywhere

between 1 and 3 in the afternoon. Maybe it's just a teenager thing.

I really don't know about IgAN and fatigue. I would think an episode of

acute nephritis with macro-hematuria and heavy proteinuria might make one

tired. Blood pressure drugs definitely can make a person feel listless. But

I don't know why just plain, ordinary, uncomplicated IgAN can do that, until

it becomes more advanced renal failure with anemia, etc. I'm not dismissing

it, but I don't think anyone can really explain it.

Pierre

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> >

> >

> > > My son, , has been complaining of severe stomach cramps in

> the

> > > middle of the night. Although he has had a good report from his

> > > neph his past visit, could this be related? Pam

> > >

> >

> >

> > Hi Pam. Is still having the cramps?

> > Pierre

>

>

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I'm the only one in my family that needs ridiculous amounts of

sleep. Also the only one with this type of illness. I need the nine

hours a night, while my brother and parents have always gotten away

easily with about 6!! I might be a bit lazier than them, but it is

noticeable enough to get ribbed about:) In some ways I hope that it

is due to this. Then I have a great excuse:).

Ingrid

> > >

> > > Re: dehydration

> > >

> > >

> > > > My son, , has been complaining of severe stomach cramps

in

> > the

> > > > middle of the night. Although he has had a good report from

his

> > > > neph his past visit, could this be related? Pam

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Hi Pam. Is still having the cramps?

> > > Pierre

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Speaking of dehydration...

I had to be rehydrated by IV fluids today. 3rd time this year.

I never had this problem until I started on the renal diet. I suspect the

low sodium aspect of the diet combined with the diuretic may not be

appropriate for me. Will have to review that with the renal team.

I take a relatively small dose of the diuretic furosemide, but it has never

been to treat edema (which I don't have), but rather, for its blood pressure

lowering effect.

Really bad nausea, weakness, a fast heart rate, and just a feeling of being

very dry prompted me to go to the nearest emergency. For some strange

reason, these things always seem to happen on a weekend or Friday afternoon,

when it's impossible to reach any doctor.

Everything is fine now, though.

Pierre

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I hope your ER's are better than ours in southern Cal. They commonly have 8-12

hour waits.

Marty

Re: dehydration

Speaking of dehydration...

I had to be rehydrated by IV fluids today. 3rd time this year.

I never had this problem until I started on the renal diet. I suspect the

low sodium aspect of the diet combined with the diuretic may not be

appropriate for me. Will have to review that with the renal team.

I take a relatively small dose of the diuretic furosemide, but it has never

been to treat edema (which I don't have), but rather, for its blood pressure

lowering effect.

Really bad nausea, weakness, a fast heart rate, and just a feeling of being

very dry prompted me to go to the nearest emergency. For some strange

reason, these things always seem to happen on a weekend or Friday afternoon,

when it's impossible to reach any doctor.

Everything is fine now, though.

Pierre

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Hi Pierre

Hope your feeling better today, dehydration makes you feel totally yuk

doesn't it. Yes strange how things always happen when doctors are not

available, like the all scenario you never see a policeman when you want

one!

Anyway hope you have a good weekend and feel good.

Love

Re: dehydration

Speaking of dehydration...

I had to be rehydrated by IV fluids today. 3rd time this year.

I never had this problem until I started on the renal diet. I suspect

the

low sodium aspect of the diet combined with the diuretic may not be

appropriate for me. Will have to review that with the renal team.

I take a relatively small dose of the diuretic furosemide, but it has

never

been to treat edema (which I don't have), but rather, for its blood

pressure

lowering effect.

Really bad nausea, weakness, a fast heart rate, and just a feeling of

being

very dry prompted me to go to the nearest emergency. For some strange

reason, these things always seem to happen on a weekend or Friday

afternoon,

when it's impossible to reach any doctor.

Everything is fine now, though.

Pierre

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I was in as soon as the triage nurse saw me. Within 5 minutes, I was in an

observation bed. For things that aren't really urgent, a 3-4 hour wait is

about average, I think. I was surprised I got in that quickly, but I guess

having renal failure is an advantage in some cases. There is great pressure

on the doctors not to admit anyone though. You have to really be in

immediate danger to get past emerg. It's interesting to hear the chatter

between the emerg doctors, nurses and specialists. I was right next to the

desk where they all work.

Pierre

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>

>

> Speaking of dehydration...

>

> I had to be rehydrated by IV fluids today. 3rd time this year.

>

> I never had this problem until I started on the renal diet. I suspect

the

> low sodium aspect of the diet combined with the diuretic may not be

> appropriate for me. Will have to review that with the renal team.

>

> I take a relatively small dose of the diuretic furosemide, but it has

never

> been to treat edema (which I don't have), but rather, for its blood

pressure

> lowering effect.

>

> Really bad nausea, weakness, a fast heart rate, and just a feeling of

being

> very dry prompted me to go to the nearest emergency. For some strange

> reason, these things always seem to happen on a weekend or Friday

afternoon,

> when it's impossible to reach any doctor.

>

> Everything is fine now, though.

>

> Pierre

>

>

>

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Thanks . I'm feeling pretty chipper this morning. Last night, I had

three big pieces of pizza for supper, with lots of cheese and pepperoni. It

was about as salty as it gest. I rationalised it: if I'm going to be

dehydrated, I may as well eat and enjoy myself : )

As far as I can tell, it's uncommon to have this problem. Most people at

this stage retain sodium and water. I seem to be the opposite. But now that

it has happened again, I'm going to want some answers!

Pierre

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>

> Speaking of dehydration...

>

> I had to be rehydrated by IV fluids today. 3rd time this year.

>

> I never had this problem until I started on the renal diet. I suspect

> the

> low sodium aspect of the diet combined with the diuretic may not be

> appropriate for me. Will have to review that with the renal team.

>

> I take a relatively small dose of the diuretic furosemide, but it has

> never

> been to treat edema (which I don't have), but rather, for its blood

> pressure

> lowering effect.

>

> Really bad nausea, weakness, a fast heart rate, and just a feeling of

> being

> very dry prompted me to go to the nearest emergency. For some strange

> reason, these things always seem to happen on a weekend or Friday

> afternoon,

> when it's impossible to reach any doctor.

>

> Everything is fine now, though.

>

> Pierre

>

>

>

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Pierre,

Another reason that a diuretic is often prescribed as you approach end-stage

is that it flushes out some of the excess potassium that your kidneys can¹t

filter. Glad to hear you are doing better now.

Take care-

Betsy

> Speaking of dehydration...

>

> I had to be rehydrated by IV fluids today. 3rd time this year.

>

> I never had this problem until I started on the renal diet. I suspect the

> low sodium aspect of the diet combined with the diuretic may not be

> appropriate for me. Will have to review that with the renal team.

>

> I take a relatively small dose of the diuretic furosemide, but it has never

> been to treat edema (which I don't have), but rather, for its blood pressure

> lowering effect.

>

> Really bad nausea, weakness, a fast heart rate, and just a feeling of being

> very dry prompted me to go to the nearest emergency. For some strange

> reason, these things always seem to happen on a weekend or Friday afternoon,

> when it's impossible to reach any doctor.

>

> Everything is fine now, though.

>

> Pierre

>

>

>

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Pierre,

Glad you got in quickly. My wife works in an ER. You wouldn't believe the

stories she tells me; not about patients, about the doctors being so burned-out

and rude to patients, nurses, etc. It's a county hospital so a lot of patients

are indigent, drug addicts, etc. Many of the docs don't even think of them as

being human. My wife doesn't subscribe to that philosophy.

PS I had an upward trend in serum creat. Was stable at 1.5 mg/dl, then went to

1.7, 1.8. Last lab perform on July 3rd it was 1.3! Needless to say, I'm very

relieved and thankful.

Marty

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>

>

> Speaking of dehydration...

>

> I had to be rehydrated by IV fluids today. 3rd time this year.

>

> I never had this problem until I started on the renal diet. I suspect

the

> low sodium aspect of the diet combined with the diuretic may not be

> appropriate for me. Will have to review that with the renal team.

>

> I take a relatively small dose of the diuretic furosemide, but it has

never

> been to treat edema (which I don't have), but rather, for its blood

pressure

> lowering effect.

>

> Really bad nausea, weakness, a fast heart rate, and just a feeling of

being

> very dry prompted me to go to the nearest emergency. For some strange

> reason, these things always seem to happen on a weekend or Friday

afternoon,

> when it's impossible to reach any doctor.

>

> Everything is fine now, though.

>

> Pierre

>

>

>

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Marty,

Funny (and good) to hear you talking about serum creatinine again, after

having been on dialysis. That's what happens you get a transplant - you

become like a mild IgANer again : )

They checked mine yesterday, while I was there. It's back up to 330 (3.7)

from 302 (3.4). Seems to be up and down every time someone measures it, but

330 isn't too bad, considering. Same lab as last time, so it is what it is.

I've seen some pretty rude doctors and, especially, nurses, here too in

Emerg over the years. We have five hospitals in the city here, some are

better than others. There's one where the Emerg staff is very rude, but once

you get admitted for anything, the nurses in the other departments are

excellent. Currently, my fistula seems to be my ticket to reasonably civil

treatment.

Yesterday, as I said, I could here them talking. They were quite overworked

yesterday, and anxious to clear some patients out of the observation room.

There was a very old man in a bed across the room. They had someone from the

geriatric department look at him. They determined that he didn't require

admission, and that he could go home, despite not being able to even take a

shower by himself, and no family. A little while later, a social worker

called the " discharge specialist " came around, and I overheard her say to

another nurse that there was no way this man should go home, but she had to

follow orders. Sad sometimes. It's apparent that there is lots of pressure

from administration not to admit patients unless they are just about dead.

Pierre

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> Pierre,

>

> Glad you got in quickly. My wife works in an ER. You wouldn't believe the

stories she tells me; not about patients, about the doctors being so

burned-out and rude to patients, nurses, etc. It's a county hospital so a

lot of patients are indigent, drug addicts, etc. Many of the docs don't even

think of them as being human. My wife doesn't subscribe to that philosophy.

>

> PS I had an upward trend in serum creat. Was stable at 1.5 mg/dl, then

went to 1.7, 1.8. Last lab perform on July 3rd it was 1.3! Needless to say,

I'm very relieved and thankful.

>

> Marty

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Hi Pierre, We've had trouble with our Internet Server lately at work,

probably from the overload of e-mails from kid..neyland :) Hope that

you're feeling better by now.

I do need help though... Does anyone have any statistics or information in

regards to if IgAN is inherited or if it tends to run in families? My 22

year old daughter spent all day yesterday in the Emergency Room due to

unexplained pain in her right side and they ruled out the appendix, bowel,

stomach, female and kidney stone problems. But she did have a fair amount

of blood in her urine and this is not her time (if you know what I mean) and

I am freaking out. ( Plus she would kill me if she knew I told 400 people

around the world that information!) I have let my mind do a number on me

and I feel like I am going to have a " melt down " today from worry...I would

like to have any information that anyone has in regards to passing IgAN

along to our children. Does anyone in group have IgAN and also their

children? Years ago, I read that it wasn't considered inherited but that

it could run in families. Please forward me any information, good or bad.

The surgeon that she saw yesterday had her come back to the lab today for

additional blood tests, which we don't have back yet. As usual you are

all gems, thanks in advance for any help.

A Mommy that's worried about her baby...

Connie, USA

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Speaking of dehydration...

I had to be rehydrated by IV fluids today. 3rd time this year.

I never had this problem until I started on the renal diet. I suspect the

low sodium aspect of the diet combined with the diuretic may not be

appropriate for me. Will have to review that with the renal team.

I take a relatively small dose of the diuretic furosemide, but it has

never

been to treat edema (which I don't have), but rather, for its blood

pressure

lowering effect.

Really bad nausea, weakness, a fast heart rate, and just a feeling of

being

very dry prompted me to go to the nearest emergency. For some strange

reason, these things always seem to happen on a weekend or Friday

afternoon,

when it's impossible to reach any doctor.

Everything is fine now, though.

Pierre

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Oh Connie

PS.

The surgery for the constriction of ureters, is a very simple procedure,

over in about 15 minutes, and usually done as a day case, didn't want

you to think it was mega surgery because it was not. Of course this may

not be what is your daughters problem, and the cause of a constriction

is normally infection leading to inflammation of the lining of the

ureter, causing severe tummy pain in the right quandrant, hence why I

mentioned it.

Re: dehydration

Speaking of dehydration...

I had to be rehydrated by IV fluids today. 3rd time this year.

I never had this problem until I started on the renal diet. I suspect

the

low sodium aspect of the diet combined with the diuretic may not be

appropriate for me. Will have to review that with the renal team.

I take a relatively small dose of the diuretic furosemide, but it has

never

been to treat edema (which I don't have), but rather, for its blood

pressure

lowering effect.

Really bad nausea, weakness, a fast heart rate, and just a feeling of

being

very dry prompted me to go to the nearest emergency. For some strange

reason, these things always seem to happen on a weekend or Friday

afternoon,

when it's impossible to reach any doctor.

Everything is fine now, though.

Pierre

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Well, believe it or not, I had to have another helping of saline fluid by IV

yesterday (Thursday, 11 July 02). This would be the second time in a week,

and the fourth time this year.

The doctor I saw is forwarding everything to my nephrologist, so we'll see

what develops. It's very strange though. The vast majority of people with my

stage of renal failure have the opposite problem. They retain fluid. I

figure it has got to be one of my medications (not necessarily the diuretic,

since it's such a small dose).

They did some blood work.

My serum creatinine is up to 350, and urea is high, but other than that,

potassium, phosphorus, and in fact, everything is within the normal range,

including my hemoglobin. So, that's not too bad. The creatinine is still not

as high as it was last January.

Pierre

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You're just trying to be difficult aren't you Pierre?

:P

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To: <iga-nephropathy >

Subject: Re: dehydration

Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 09:29:12 -0400

Well, believe it or not, I had to have another helping of saline fluid by IV

yesterday (Thursday, 11 July 02). This would be the second time in a week,

and the fourth time this year.

The doctor I saw is forwarding everything to my nephrologist, so we'll see

what develops. It's very strange though. The vast majority of people with my

stage of renal failure have the opposite problem. They retain fluid. I

figure it has got to be one of my medications (not necessarily the diuretic,

since it's such a small dose).

They did some blood work.

My serum creatinine is up to 350, and urea is high, but other than that,

potassium, phosphorus, and in fact, everything is within the normal range,

including my hemoglobin. So, that's not too bad. The creatinine is still not

as high as it was last January.

Pierre

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Hello Connie and ,

I did mention this a bit........there is research going on at my Hospital

into family predisposition towards autoimmune illness. Through a mother

daughter line in my family there are the following illnesses which my Neph

was interested in: Rheumatoid Arthritis, Diabetes, Vasculitis, Lupus, IgAN

and an 'HSP-like' undiagnosed systemic illness.

Also in a an e-mail recently I posted (14th June)the article Subject: Is

Henoch-Schonlein Purpura the Systemic Form of IgA Nephropathy? there was

reference to genetics, the extract read:

GENETICS

Neither lgAN nor HSP is usually considered a genetic disorder. However,

increasing evidence suggests that individuals inherit a predisposition to

develop lgAN, and probably also HSP. Scattered case reports describe

families with more than one member with lgAN. Several families include one

member with lgAN and another with HSP. One remarkable family had twins, one

with HSP the other with lgAN. In addition to these families, I am aware of

two others with one brother with lgAN and the other with HSP. Brothers from

one family were HLA typed and found to be HLA-identical(AI1,31; B51, w62; DR

1,4). The fourth component of complement is encoded by two loci on

chromosome 6 within the major histocompatability complex. Null genes(genes

producing a nonfunctional gene product) occur at one of the two loci on both

chromosomes (homozygous null)

in < 10% of normal individuals. The frequency of homozygous null C4 genes at

either locus is significantly increased in patients with IgAN or HSP.

Whether this genetic finding relates to gene linkages within the major

histocompatibility complex or to a functional difference in the

compliment system, is unclear. An increased frequency of an unusual

restriction fragment length poly-morphism allele of the immunoglobulin heavy

chain switch region chromosome 14 was recently described in patients with

IgAN but not HSP. The patients with HSP in this study were unselected. Might

this all be more common in the subgroup of patients with HSP with a chronic

course of renal involvement, similar to patients with IgAN?

Hope that helps.

Sally

----Original Message-----

From: Malt (igan)

Sent: 12 July 2002 06:43

To: iga-nephropathy

Subject: RE: dehydration

Hi Connie

First of all welcome back, glad your back on line.

Secondly so sorry that you are so worried about your daughter. I seem

to remember a discussion on here about whether IGAN is hereditary, but

for the life of me I cant remember what was said. I do know that my

mother who has had blood in her urine for years, underwent tests for

IGAN, of course as a family we all got very excited about clues to my

diagnosis and a link, but it proved unfounded, i.e. she did not have

IGAN. What she did have, which is what I share, is a constriction of

the ureter, I have had three surgeries now to correct this, and the

symptoms you describe for your daughter sound familiar. However of

course there are many many reasons for these symptoms, I trust they did

a UTI test (urinary tract infection), indeed was a urologist involved?

I hope everything turns out to be ok Connie, and don't worry I wont tell

anyone about your daughter!!! Secret safe on here :-). Try not to

worry ok, if you need help you know we are here.

Best wishes

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Speaking of dehydration...

I had to be rehydrated by IV fluids today. 3rd time this year.

I never had this problem until I started on the renal diet. I suspect

the

low sodium aspect of the diet combined with the diuretic may not be

appropriate for me. Will have to review that with the renal team.

I take a relatively small dose of the diuretic furosemide, but it has

never

been to treat edema (which I don't have), but rather, for its blood

pressure

lowering effect.

Really bad nausea, weakness, a fast heart rate, and just a feeling of

being

very dry prompted me to go to the nearest emergency. For some strange

reason, these things always seem to happen on a weekend or Friday

afternoon,

when it's impossible to reach any doctor.

Everything is fine now, though.

Pierre

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And it hasn't been too hard : )

I would have to be a fish to drink more water than I have been.

Pierre

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> You're just trying to be difficult aren't you Pierre?

> :P

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Do fish drink water then tee hee!!!! How about an elephant instead,

they drink mega amounts, or maybe a camel...ok I'll shut up.

xx

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And it hasn't been too hard : )

I would have to be a fish to drink more water than I have been.

Pierre

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> You're just trying to be difficult aren't you Pierre?

> :P

>

>

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RE: Genetics

Pierre, Sally, and all of my friends out there in Kid..neyland,

Thank you so much for your posts and information and just plain old support!

It is funny, I have a large family and lots of friends and yet I felt more

secure in asking my friends in Kid...neyland for their shoulder. I went

directly to the place where I knew that some-one would be able to answer my

questions and if not, give me the support that I needed because they

understand first hand.

Pierre, as usual even though you were down and out again (dehydration) you

came through for a complete stranger and posted IgAN and Genetics on our

site. I can't tell you how fortunate that we are as a group to have you

with us! So shape up and stay out of the hospital!!! :) Some-one said

lately " You're the MAN " , I couldn't agree more.

Just to catch the rest of you up, last week was really tough on me, as my

daughter was in the ER all day on Wednesday with pain in the right side and

no obvious dx forthcoming. She had additional blood and urine tests on

Thursday and on Friday, (while I was in a meeting) I got the call that you

don't want to get as a parent who is a kidney patient, that they were

referring her to my Nephrologist. Needless to say, I didn't handle it

well...prayers do help because within the next 2 hours my Nephrologist

called my cell phone. He had seen the referring Doctor at the Hospital

that morning and had talked about my daughter and obviously the concern of

kidney disease. My Nephrologist checked out all of her tests and has

determined that she indeed needs to see a Urologist instead of a

Nephrologist. Her levels including protein and BUN are within the normal

range, but they feel that she has a UTI, and is being treated as such. (I

have been reading all of the posts today in regards to you other women that

it seems have been through similar routes, and interestingly enough years

ago that is where I started too, so even though I'm trying to be positive,

somehow I'm not totally reassured about her dx) We are however, going to

take it one day at a time.

Even though I was very concerned that they were going to tell me she had

kidney problems, I'll tell you all that getting news that she was to see my

Nephrologist, put me into a state of shock. Once I went to bed that night,

I slept for 15 hours straight, it wore me down, I actually looked worse than

she did!

One last note, the medical community has renewed my faith in them. The

Doctor that she saw in the ER, checked on her by phone personally or through

his office 5 times on Thursday and 3 times on Friday. He also searched out

my Nephrologist at the Hospital to discuss her case. I am going to send

him a thank-you note for the excellent care, concern and compassion that he

showed to my daughter during her illness. Right now she is doing much

better and says that she feels the effects of being sick, but is on the road

to recovery. Thanks again for the support from each and every one of you!!!

Connie, USA

Re: dehydration

Speaking of dehydration...

I had to be rehydrated by IV fluids today. 3rd time this year.

I never had this problem until I started on the renal diet. I suspect

the

low sodium aspect of the diet combined with the diuretic may not be

appropriate for me. Will have to review that with the renal team.

I take a relatively small dose of the diuretic furosemide, but it has

never

been to treat edema (which I don't have), but rather, for its blood

pressure

lowering effect.

Really bad nausea, weakness, a fast heart rate, and just a feeling of

being

very dry prompted me to go to the nearest emergency. For some strange

reason, these things always seem to happen on a weekend or Friday

afternoon,

when it's impossible to reach any doctor.

Everything is fine now, though.

Pierre

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Hello Pierre

I had to go into hospital for dehydration last year,, I know what that's like

NO FUN

Wish you better soon Mate

all the best fron Danny

Pierre wrote: Well, believe it or not, I had to have

another helping of saline fluid by IV

yesterday (Thursday, 11 July 02). This would be the second time in a week,

and the fourth time this year.

The doctor I saw is forwarding everything to my nephrologist, so we'll see

what develops. It's very strange though. The vast majority of people with my

stage of renal failure have the opposite problem. They retain fluid. I

figure it has got to be one of my medications (not necessarily the diuretic,

since it's such a small dose).

They did some blood work.

My serum creatinine is up to 350, and urea is high, but other than that,

potassium, phosphorus, and in fact, everything is within the normal range,

including my hemoglobin. So, that's not too bad. The creatinine is still not

as high as it was last January.

Pierre

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