Guest guest Posted February 21, 2000 Report Share Posted February 21, 2000 Oops, just re-read your post; you are taking " immeasurable " to say " not measurable " which doesn't mean none; I would take it to mean " slight " ; we know nothing is all safe, so maybe slight damage has to be a risk you are willing to take to get GK?? marie Re: Gamma Knife >From: ffusca@... > > >I tend to agree with the Kman. My feeling is that the 'small' dose in one >fractionated treatment is LARGE enough to cause irreversible damage. Sure, >it is smaller than a single treatment dose but it is still large. This >reminds me of an article describing GK from Dr. Noren a few years ago. He >said 'the GK gives off 201 pencils of radiation'. He goes on to say that >'together the pencils form a very powerful dose, however each pencil itself >causes immeasurable harm'. The key word is 'immeasurable'. They may not be >able to measure it but that does not mean that is causes no harm. I'm >surprised the Kman is anti-FRS. I thought his center had various RS treatments. > >We are all basically chasing rainbows. There is no consensus in the medical >field so I suppose we have to roll the dice for now. Personally, I am >waiting for the NF2 pill. One pill and bingo, no NF2 (and no after taste >either). > >I can't help much for your NF2 problems but I can offer some friendly LV >tips. Never play slot machines - the hotels make the bulk of their money on >these machines so obviously people are losing loads of money this way. >Blackjack offers the best odds (close to 50/50) so this is the game of >choice. You may think you are playing against the dealer but you are really >playing against yourself because the dealers' actions are governed by the >rules. Good luck! Are you going to LV this year?? > > > >> >> >>I think the whole think the fractionated guys are banking on, is that >>healthy tissue recovers, tumor tissue does not; however the Kman said they >>don't really know that! --of course he is anti-FRS. But given the people >>who have had successfull FRS, not losing their hearing, and no more tumor >>growth SO FAR, wouldn't it indicate that maybe the FRS docs are right? Just >>wish this was five years from now so I had a little more data to go on; I >>just came back from Falk Library at UPMC; I'm chasing rainbows; the data is >>not there yet because of the time that needs to elapse,; what scares me is >>it's just a gamble; and if my luck holds like it does in LV, I'm a loser !! >>Marie >>PS Still no reimbursement check! > > > >See what's happening for NF2Con 2000! >http://msnhomepages.talkcity.com/DeckDr/earld/nf2convegas2000.html > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2000 Report Share Posted February 21, 2000 > > >Oops, just re-read your post; you are taking " immeasurable " to say " not >measurable " which doesn't mean none; I would take it to mean " slight " ; we >know nothing is all safe, so maybe slight damage has to be a risk you are >willing to take to get GK?? >marie You are correct now Marie. Noren used the term 'immeasurable' and I was just repeating his words. I've been fooled by words like that so many times in the past I watch out for them now. You almost have to be a lawyer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2000 Report Share Posted February 21, 2000 Oh, is that a guarantee? I mean in 4 or 5 years a pill IS going to come out?? marie Re: Gamma Knife > > >Perhaps you should just wait another 4 or 5 years until that pill >comes out >seeing that FSR and GK are so dangerous ~|))) >. > > Re: Gamma Knife > > >> From: ffusca@... >> >> , >> >> You have summarized the FRS theory pretty well. I agree this is complex >and >> based on clinical trails as are all the other forms of RS treatment. >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >, >> >Radiation kills tumor cells as well as normal cells. When the dose is >large >> >enough, the normal cells would be damaged severely so that complications >> >occur. This is the limiting factor for radiation treatment since tumor >cell >> >will be killed when the dose is large enough. In order to reduce the >> >complication, the dose to the tumor is compromised. The advantage for the >> >radiation is that normal cells repair its damage and repopulate a little >> >faster than the tumor cells. That is why multifractions come to play. It >> >delivers a little dose each time without causing severe complication to >> >normal tissue. since repopulation is envolved, to kill same amount of >tumor >> >cells, one needs more cumulative dose for multifractional treatment vs. >> >single fraction treatment. It is not a linear relationship. The amount of >of >> >dose is more based on clinical results rather than mathmatical >calculations. >> >When a dose to reach satisfying tumor control is greater than the dose >for a >> >accetable complication rate, more fractions with less daily dose may be >> >helpful. >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> See what's happening for NF2Con 2000! >> http://msnhomepages.talkcity.com/DeckDr/earld/nf2convegas2000.html >> > > >See what's happening for NF2Con 2000! >http://msnhomepages.talkcity.com/DeckDr/earld/nf2convegas2000.html > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2000 Report Share Posted February 21, 2000 impotance Jimmy Re: Gamma Knife > > > I'm curious, what are these " slight " risk? > > Mark > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > ; I would take it to mean " slight " ; we > know nothing is all safe, so maybe slight damage has to be a risk you are > willing to take to get GK?? > marie > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > See what's happening for NF2Con 2000! > http://msnhomepages.talkcity.com/DeckDr/earld/nf2convegas2000.html > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2000 Report Share Posted February 22, 2000 " Marie Drew " I sent an earlier post saying that in 5 to 10 years that they would find a tumour inhibiting drug. In my post to I was meaning the shortest time would be 4 to 5 years. Hopefully it will be sooner, we can only hope that it is. . Re: Gamma Knife > > > > > > > >Perhaps you should just wait another 4 or 5 years until that pill > >comes out > >seeing that FSR and GK are so dangerous ~|))) > >. > > > >----- Original Message ----- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2000 Report Share Posted February 23, 2000 Mark, Radiation can cause cancer so there is a long term risk associated with GK. In theory, GK can cause more problems than it will solve. However, experience has shown GK effective in 'killing' the tumor while only having a minimal risk of cancer. This is how I see it anyway. Hope this helps. > > >I'm curious, what are these " slight " risk? > >Mark > > >----Original Message Follows---- >; I would take it to mean " slight " ; we >know nothing is all safe, so maybe slight damage has to be a risk you are >willing to take to get GK?? >marie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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