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Thanks to all for enzyme advice. I wonder

how long it took any of you to notice an effect, if you noticed at all, and how

much you take/

Thanks again for advice.

Nuala

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dIGESTIVE ENZYMES

Hi Nuala,

I have used Enzymedica enzymes for a few years.

Appears to be a very good company, but located in the USA. I imagine you can buy

their products from retailers outside the US.

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I personally take these http://www.energeticnutrition.com/vitalzym/vitalzym.html

(for a few months now..)...seems to work pretty good for my GI issues.

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> Thanks to all for enzyme advice. I wonder how long it took any of you to

> notice an effect, if you noticed at all, and how much you take/

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> Thanks again for advice.

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> low dose naltrexone

> Subject: [low dose naltrexone] dIGESTIVE ENZYMES

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> I have used Enzymedica enzymes for a few years. Appears to be a very good

> company, but located in the USA. I imagine you can buy their products from

> retailers outside the US.

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I am currently taking Udo's probiotics. Why did you discontinue the digestive enzymes?

GG

i used to take Udo's digestive enzymes.Carla

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re: how long it took, i noticed immediately with the Udo's enzymes

that i did not feel weighed down after eating.

I think i need to take some to my brother-in-law's house tomorrow.

Italian thanksgiving! (soooo much food!)

Carla

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my nutritionist has me taking FOS-idophilus, which is found in the refrigerated section along with 1 flora balance on an empty stomach.

Terri

From: anna <annambur@...>Subject: [low dose naltrexone] DIGESTIVE ENZYMESlow dose naltrexone@...Date: Thursday, November 26, 2009, 2:59 PM

An fyi....Having celiac, I investigate everything that I put into my body for the possibility ofgluten. Many of the digestive enzymes on the market have gluten in them, unlessthey say specifically that they are gluten free.

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Amy

Maybe you are allergic to one of the ingredients of the enzymes.

Creon is made from pigs pancreas. If you are allergic to or have an intolerance

to pork then you could have a reaction to Creon.

Some doctors link gall bladder problems with food allergies. If you had

allergies prior to having you gall-bladder removed then the

surgery would not have cured the allergies/intolerances. In fact gall bladder

problems/stones are a symptom of an uderlying problem.

Removing the gall bladder is simply removing a symptom.

You can still get stones forming in the liver and bile ducts even if your

gallbladder has been removed and many people find they can still

flush stones after they have had their gallbladders removed.

Have you had your stools checked for parasites, bacterial and yeast overgrowth?

Any of those plus a leaky gut are often responsible for all the symptoms you

have.

Sandy

www.DefinitiveDetoxDiet.com

www.thedetoxspecialist.com/blog

digestive enzymes

I am having trouble managing digestive enzymes. Every time I take them,(with

meals), I get really bad indigestion. I realize that that doesn't make any

sense, but it is what's happening. I can manage betaine hydrochloride without

any issues, but not enzymes. Any ideas??

Amy

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In a message dated 22/02/2010 13:47:41 GMT Standard Time,

lpopick@... writes:

I'd like to know what most people are using for a digestive enzyme. We use

Might-A-Mins bu Market America but it is sooo expensive and contains

Maltodextrin so I'm looking for another brad.

>>I use Houston _www.Houston-Enzymes.com_ (http://www.Houston-Enzymes.com)

HTH

Mandi in UK

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we are using Digest gold and CarbGest from Enzymedica.. I found a couple

sites where they are cheaper.

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Might-A-Mins bu Market America but it is sooo expensive and contains

Maltodextrin so I'm looking for another brad.

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> I have experimented with digestive enzymes the past 7 years    my digestion is

> much better,  dont have that heavy feeling and burping for 4 hours

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> I am now having some lemon, ginger and sea salt 10min before and saurkraut

> juice,  but it does not seem to be enough.

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> I dont get heartburn or acid

+++Hi . If you don't get heartburn or acid then what is your digestive

problem?

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> Why dont you like enzymes when 95% of all naturalpaths recommend digestive

enzymes for digestive complaints  ?

+++That is because all digestive enzymes are produced either in the mouth or by

the pancreas, which only work in an alkaline environment, and they are

neutralized by stomach acid. So taking digestive enzymes by mouth are a waste

since they are neutralized in the stomach.

This is how digestion works:

Carbohydrates (carbs) start being digested by enzymes produced in the mouth -

carbs are all foods that are not classified as protein or fat, including

vegetables, fruits, grains, nuts, seeds, sugar, starches, herbs, spices, etc.

Some carbs also contain protein and fat, such as grains, nuts, seeds and some

vegetables. Some proteins also contain carbs and fats such as eggs.

Hydrochloric acid (HCl) or stomach acid mainly digests protein. When a person

starts to eat the stomach is stimulated to start producing hydrochloric acid

(HCl). Stomach acid gradually increases during a meal. When the stomach acid

gets high enough, which normally takes about 20-30 minutes after eating, it

neutralizes enzymes from the mouth so the digestion of carbohydrates stops.

Digestive enzymes from the mouth only work on carbs while the mixture is

alkaline. Therefore, if HCl supplements are taken too early it stops carb

digestion in the stomach too soon. HCl also neutralizes any digestive enzyme

supplements, so taking them is a waste. That is why it is important to take HCl

supplements 30-45 minutes after eating a meal.

When the mixture of food, water and HCl (called chyme) empties out of the

stomach it has to go through a small hole 10 mm, which is slightly larger than

the end of a pencil, called the pyloric valve. The mixture squirts through that

small hole in spurts. The rate at which foods empty out of the stomach is highly

regulated. If the mixture is too solid and doesn't contain enough fluid it isn't

as able to get through that small hole. That is why drinking enough fluids with

meals is also very important.

When the mixture starts squirting through that small hole, if the pancreas

detects it contains enough fluids and HCl it is able to do its job. First the

mixture must be made alkaline, so the pancreas pours lots of bicarbonate of soda

(baking soda) onto the mixture as it is squirting through that small hole.

Pancreatic digestive enzymes only work on an alkaline mixture, just like enzymes

in the mouth.

Next, the pancreas produces several enzymes which digest carbs, fats and further

digests protein, i.e. protease digests protein, amylase digests carbs and lipase

digests fats. The small intestine also produces digestive enzymes that only work

on an alkaline mixture.

Therefore taking HCl supplements and improving its production in the stomach,

along with having enough fluids with meals, is very important for proper

digestion, whereas taking digestive enzymes is a waste and doesn't help

digestion.

Bee

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Which autism group? I would like to join since I have heard other folks comment

that the group has useful information for the candida process.

Thanks,

Carolyn

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> The autism group has some of the best info on candida and leaky gut.

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> Q. I read a product saying there is no die-off with enzymes for yeast control.

Is this true?

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> A. Both the proteases and cellulases (and probably some hemi-cellulases and

complex carb zymes) work on yeast. Candidase by Enzymedica has just proteases

and cellulases. Candex by Pure Essence has the cellulases and other starch

enzyme but not the high proteases. Candizyme (Renew Life) has a mixture of

carbohydrate enzymes and proteases. No-Fenol (Houston Nutraceuticals), and

Phenol Assist (Kirkman) have been used to assist with yeast and these have the

cellulases but not the proteases. All have very different formulations. If one

product doesn't give satisfactory results, try one of the others because the

formulations are so different.

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> The idea about 'enzymes for yeast don't cause die-off' needs to be taken with

a grain of salt (or an entire shaker). I have had several conversations with

those using enzymes for yeast, and there definitely can be

die-off...particularly with the products that do not include proteases.

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> The idea is the proteases are the guys that help to reduce or prevent die-off.

Yeast and bacteria cells have mass (weight and take up space). So when they die,

there is stuff left over (like when an animal dies and leaves behind a carcass

which will proceed to decompose). When you do something that is effective on

yeast, the body getting all the leftover stuff out is a cause of die-off. And we

don't want it staying inside and rotting away anyway. Proteases come and

dismantle this matter, help remove it, and thus reduce the die-off.

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> Enzymes can cause die-off if they are being effective at killing yeast. The

yeast control is usually better with enzymes than using yeast herbs or meds

without enzymes. But if you are having trouble with die-off, then try adding in

more proteases. Other enzymes besides proteases may help a little with die-off

too.

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> Enzymedica has on their site and, I think, on the bottle of Candidase, that if

you have discomfort with the Candidase, take more proteases (like

Purify/Virastop) to reduce or eliminate the discomfort. I asked what a good rule

of thumb was, and was told about 2 strong proteases capsules to one yeast-killer

capsule (so 2 Virastops for each Candidase, for example).

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> You can always reduce the dose of the yeast-killer too, or maybe a combination

of more proteases and other die-off effect reducers.

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Carolyn,

I am a member of my local group....we share info and books. They also sell

unused or gently used toys, etc at our meetings. I take part in the Autism Walk

each spring and am rewarded with donated gluten free/dairy free food. I

give... as well as get so much from this group. I am sure there are online

groups as well.

Joan

Which autism group? I would like to join since I have heard other folks

comment that the group has useful information for the candida process.

Thanks,

Carolyn

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Thanks Joan. I will inquire regarding the local groups in my area. What a

wonderful idea. You are a constant source of inspiration and hope.

Carolyn

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unused or gently used toys, etc at our meetings. I take part in the Autism Walk

each spring and am rewarded with donated gluten free/dairy free food. I

give... as well as get so much from this group. I am sure there are online

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> Fiber is a big problem for me. What do you think about digestive enzymes to

break them down?

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@@ Hi Norma,

Please remember to include your name at end of your messages. Thanks in

advance.

You do not need digestive enzymes. And you do not need them for fiber i.e

vegetables. Just cook your vegetables long enough and the fiber will be broken

down and easier to digest.

Best in Health,

Ed

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> Fiber is a big problem for me. What do you think about digestive enzymes to

break them down?

+++Hi Norma,

What kind of digestive issues are you having?

Fibers are in all plant foods, including vegetables, spices, herbs, etc., which

is in their cell wall, called cellulose, that Humans are not able to digest -

see this article to understand it:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/veg3.php

That's why Ed advised you to only consume well-cooked carbs. Taking any

digestive enzymes is a waste since normal stomach acid neutralizes them, in

other words, makes such enzymes inactive.

If you have digestive issues follow these instructions:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro2.php#s28

All the best, Bee

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My primary digestive issue right now is that stools are 2 inches or probably

more which are hard to pass and bother hemorrhoid. I currently have one bm per

day.

I cook vegetables at least half hour but maybe I'm eating too much as I am

trying to eat more vegetables than meat. I consume 6 tbsp of coc oil daily.

Regards, Norm

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break them down?

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> What kind of digestive issues are you having?

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> Fibers are in all plant foods, including vegetables, spices, herbs, etc.,

which is in their cell wall, called cellulose, that Humans are not able to

digest - see this article to understand it:

> http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/veg3.php

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> That's why Ed advised you to only consume well-cooked carbs. Taking any

digestive enzymes is a waste since normal stomach acid neutralizes them, in

other words, makes such enzymes inactive.

>

> If you have digestive issues follow these instructions:

> http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro2.php#s28

>

> All the best, Bee

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> My primary digestive issue right now is that stools are 2 inches or probably

more which are hard to pass and bother hemorrhoid. I currently have one bm per

day.

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> I cook vegetables at least half hour but maybe I'm eating too much as I am

trying to eat more vegetables than meat. I consume 6 tbsp of coc oil daily.

+++Hi Norm,

You need to calculate your daily ratios of protein, fat and carbs so you aren't

eating too many vegetables and you are consuming enough fat and protein. Here's

the Simple Calculator on my website:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/ratios/ratio.php

After you get your ratios go to fitday.com and follow these instructions:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/foods9.php

Bee

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What is Dr. G's opinion of digestive enzymes? If he approves of them, what

type does he recommend?

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He does not approve of them. He feels that if you need digestive enzymes you

should not be eating that food.

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Subject: Digestive enzymes

What is Dr. G's opinion of digestive enzymes? If he approves of them, what

type does he recommend?

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