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I just recently learned about an herb called Kratom and it sounds to me like

it would be worth trying in your case, but be careful how you use it. To my

understanding, you don't want to use it at the same time you use your other

pain meds. On our next payday I am going to try it, because like you, I am

desperate.

Welcome to the group and I hope that you gain from the group what you are

here for.

Love and gentle hugs,

Debi/So. Cal.-54

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Debi -

Hi Debi -

Be very very careful with Kratom. It is actually illegal to possess

and use in many countries, although not here in the U.S. It is

primarily used as a psychotropic by people looking to get high, not

as a medical treatment for pain.

In fact, there is no medical research showing it has useful medical

properties - the people who sell it are claiming all kinds of

benefits, kind of like the snake oil salesmen of old - and like

all " herbal supplements " there is no quality control in its

production that ensures you get the dose advertised or that it is

clean and safe.

Please talk to your doctor before spending part of your income on

this and possibly risking your health. Here's some of the bad news

about this drug, taken from the Drug and Chemical Evaluation Section

of the US Government website:

" Kratom consumption can lead to addiction. In a study of Thai kratom

addicts, it was observed that some addicts chewed kratom daily for 3

to 30 years (mean of 18.6 years). Long-term use of kratom produced

anorexia, weight loss, insomnia, skin darkening, dry mouth, frequent

urination, and constipation. A withdrawal syndrome was observed,

consisting of symptoms of hostility, aggression, emotional lability,

wet nose, achy muscles and bones, and jerky movement of the limbs.

Furthermore, several cases of kratom psychosis were observed, where

kratom addicts exhibited psychotic symptoms that included

hallucinations, delusion and confusion. "

Hope this information helps.

Cheryl in AZ

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> I just recently learned about an herb called Kratom

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Hi Cheryl,

No wonder you are a moderator. You posess a bevy of information and

have a great ability to share it with others. Thanks for your

efforts and for keeping an eye out for us so we don't hurt ourselves.

Sometimes the best of us needs to be protected from ourselves.

I have a question, any natural suggestions for sleep medications

(primarly falling asleep)? I tried valerian root without much

success. Not worth the cost and awful taste.

Fred

& Cdoy :o)

--- Cheryl in AZ wrote:

> Be very very careful with Kratom. It is actually illegal to

possess and use in many countries, although not here in the U.S. It is

primarily used as a psychotropic by people looking to get high, not

as a medical treatment for pain.

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