association between BPD and OCD?

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Does anyone know if there is an assoication between BPD and OCD? My

mother has many of the symptoms of OCD (excessive talking, excessive

thoughts about weight, skin, hair, worries about causing an accident,

religiousity etc.) SHe also has many traits of a witch BPD. Just

wondering if anyone has heard of a connection?

Kelley

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Oh I ABSOLUTELY think they're all related -- they're all reactions

that a person has formulated to cope with enormous anxiety and fear.

Since there are so many varieties and types of people, there are going

to be varieties and types of anxiety disorders. We all have coping

behaviors to some extent, but, as I understand it, when it goes into

the realm of affecting your personal relationships, THEN it crosses

the line into a disorder.

Great question -- I think about that a lot, actually. I recently

posted about a longtime friend who has O-C Personality Disorder (in my

opinion!) -- and she is a TASKMASTER -- addicted to tasking, making

lists, taking on more tasks, tasking, tasking, tasking. When she was

young, there was a terrible traumatic event that changed the course of

her family. I think she developed this being busy all the time to

cope with not feeling the pain to the depths that it would go. Post

traumatic stress.

Now, she can't sit still and laments her busy, busy life -- uses it as

an excuse not to be too close to people. But she's popular and has a

lot of people in her life -- but she calls the shots. I couldn't take

it anymore, so I've distanced myself from the friendship (not that

she's noticed)

I think waking up to the whole BPD spectrum has caused me to see

similar behaviors in others. My mother is BPD and very fearful, and

so is my O-C Personality Disorder friend.

-Kyla

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I've never read anything 'official' about this connection - however, it is true

from my observation. My fada will get onto a subject (always negative --

complaining or criticizing someone in the family) -- and just won't (or can't)

get off of it. He will go on and on from every possible angle, trying to engage

others around him. I've started calling him on it by saying " Daddy, you're

doing that thing that you do. " It has been pointed out to him by me enough

times that he knows what I mean - - that he's being a broken record. Sometimes

the reminder is enough to help get the 'needle out of the groove'. Other times

I'll hold up fingers to indicate that this is the 2nd, or 3rd or 4th (or more)

time that he has said the very same thing. Sometimes that helps him to 'get off

it'.

AZClown

association between BPD and OCD?

Does anyone know if there is an assoication between BPD and OCD? My

mother has many of the symptoms of OCD (excessive talking, excessive

thoughts about weight, skin, hair, worries about causing an accident,

religiousity etc.) SHe also has many traits of a witch BPD. Just

wondering if anyone has heard of a connection?

Kelley

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I haven't read about it in particular, but I wouldn't be surprised if

there was a connection.

My nada exhibited certain OCD behaviors growing up. There was a ritual

to folding laundry and washing dishes, for example. Even sweeping the

floor and mopping had to be done a certain way. God help you if you

deviated from the Patented Nada Method . My half siblings tell me

that when I was a small child, she would obsess so terribly over

dinner that she'd end up preparing only one small dish. Everything had

to be grand and perfect, but she couldn't live up to her own standards

of perfection so she only managed to produce one dish. Never mind if

the kids were still hungry after dinner.

My nada is also something of a hoarder. The area of the bedroom next

to her side of the bed was about shin deep with professional journals

and papers which she always intended to read but never did. She still

has an entire storage room full of old papers and furniture that is

now back in style because it's been sitting around so long (complete

with a barf green bookcase from the 70s!). And I've never met a woman

with as many shoes as she has.

qwerty

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> Does anyone know if there is an assoication between BPD and OCD? My

> mother has many of the symptoms of OCD (excessive talking, excessive

> thoughts about weight, skin, hair, worries about causing an accident,

> religiousity etc.) SHe also has many traits of a witch BPD. Just

> wondering if anyone has heard of a connection?

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> Kelley

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[Guest guest]

Kelley,

BPD is often found in a dual diagnosis, so yes, there can be an

association between BPD and OCD.

Sylvia

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> Does anyone know if there is an assoication between BPD and OCD? My

> mother has many of the symptoms of OCD (excessive talking, excessive

> thoughts about weight, skin, hair, worries about causing an

accident,

> religiousity etc.) SHe also has many traits of a witch BPD. Just

> wondering if anyone has heard of a connection?

>

> Kelley

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AZClown, So your fada responds ok to you calling him on that thing he

does? Does he acknowlege that he has BPD or OCD? My nada is " trying "

to get where I'm coming from. We just had a conversation about it

last night on the phone. She's doing her normal crying/sniffling " I'm

soooo sorry " thing " I'll try harder " . I'm not sure how to get

through, seems like you've found a way w/your fada.

Jill

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> I've never read anything 'official' about this connection -

however, it is true from my observation. My fada will get onto a

subject (always negative -- complaining or criticizing someone in the

family) -- and just won't (or can't) get off of it. He will go on

and on from every possible angle, trying to engage others around

him. I've started calling him on it by saying " Daddy, you're doing

that thing that you do. " It has been pointed out to him by me

enough times that he knows what I mean - - that he's being a broken

record. Sometimes the reminder is enough to help get the 'needle out

of the groove'. Other times I'll hold up fingers to indicate that

this is the 2nd, or 3rd or 4th (or more) time that he has said the

very same thing. Sometimes that helps him to 'get off it'.

> AZClown

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> association between BPD and OCD?

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> Does anyone know if there is an assoication between BPD and OCD? My

> mother has many of the symptoms of OCD (excessive talking,

excessive

> thoughts about weight, skin, hair, worries about causing an

accident,

> religiousity etc.) SHe also has many traits of a witch BPD. Just

> wondering if anyone has heard of a connection?

>

> Kelley

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Hi Jill,

I don't think that he 'gets it' - - I have just pointed it out to him many times

and then I call him on it when it does it again. (He's not a rager, just

viciously manipulative) He never seems sorry that he's done it, just sorry that

he got caught. Once during a phone conversation he was very meanly criticizing

my children and their choices of college majors and everything else he could

pick apart and I had just had enough - - so I told him that he was not to

criticize the children anymore - our job was to be supportive and encouraging -

-and I told him that if he did that anymore, I'd consider our phone conversation

over. He sort of laughed and then dove right back into the criticism. I said:

" Well, it looks like this conversation is over, Bye " and hung up. I only had to

do it 2 more times and he never opened his mouth, to me at least, about them

again. I do the same thing when we're talking in person -- when he starts going

'down that road

again' - - I say: " Well, I have to go now , Bye " and I leave immediately. I

don't waste a breath trying to explain or reason -- that doesn't get anywhere

with him and just draws me back in.

He is mostly NPD and OCD, and no, he acknowledges nothing -- he thinks he is

always right and everyone else is always wrong - -but he does seem to respond to

behavior-modification techniques, so that's what I use. Whatever works,

right?!

AZClown

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> Does anyone know if there is an assoication between BPD and OCD? My

> mother has many of the symptoms of OCD (excessive talking,

excessive

> thoughts about weight, skin, hair, worries about causing an

accident,

> religiousity etc.) SHe also has many traits of a witch BPD. Just

> wondering if anyone has heard of a connection?

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> Kelley

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