Guest guest Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 then the wife could say, " well, then why don't you challenge this charge on the card? in fact, i'll do it myself. i don't want to be charged for stuff i'm not experiencing. " hubby: " oh, i'll do that... " wife: " NO. i'll do it. you're working longer hours as it is. you don't need to worry about it. also, i've been getting these calls from someone who keeps calling and hanging up. they're number is blocked. do you know who it is? " hubby: " no idea " wife: " okay, good. i've already called the phone company to get the calls traced. i don't want to be bothered in my own home by crank calls. " hubby: " NOW WAIT A SECOND! ARE YOU ACCUSING ME OF SOMETHING!?! " wife: " now husband, are YOU ACCUSING ME OF SOMETHING?!?! do you want me to disregard this evidence of possible identity theft? do you expect me to tolerate harrassment in my own home? why are you so defensive about this? " hubby: " .... " questions are always good. more questions are always good. you extract info from other people, which you use to instantaniously amend your gameplan. bink > > For those of you who are in therapy at the moment, or have been in therapy > recently, has your therapist tried something called " cognitive behavior > therapy " ? This seems to be the basis of what my therapy is on, and I am > not entirely sold on it. > > Have any of you tried it? If so, has it helped or worked or has it not > worked out? > > I'm giving it the old college try, but so far it just seems like the > foundation of what they are trying to teach me is to just " think happy > thoughts " . Instead of jumping to conclusions, ask questions. To me this > doesn't make any sense and it seems to just open the door to becoming a > door mat. According to what I have read, a person who uses this particular > therapy may end up having a conversation like this: > > After many nights coming home late from work and suspicious phone calls and > charges on the credit card for hotels that you hadn't stayed in, a wife > begins to suspect her husband is having an affair. Using the cognitive > behavior therapy guidelines she takes a deep breath and decides not to jump > to conclusions. So I imagine the conversation would sound something like > this: > > wife: honey, there have been some very suspicious activity going on lately > and you just don't seem like yourself. We got the credit card bill and there > are charges on it for hotels...we haven't gone to any hotels...do you have > any idea what this could be about? > > husband: ummm, errr, .....no honey it must just be a mistake. > > At this point the cognitive behavior therapist would congratulate the wife > for asking the question and letting her husband explain...now see?....aren't > you glad you asked instead of jumping to conclusions? > > > I'm think.....uhhhh....no...he just lied to my face and you are > congratulation me for being naive. > > Maybe I'm completely wrong...can anyone shine some light on this type of > therapy? > > -- > Kisses and Nibbles, > Bunny > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 Cognitive Behaviour Therapy is crap! The premise is that you 'manage' your reactions to externals prior to reacting. Well great... we should all do that... but if a snake is in my pocket and I freak out and flip and go reactionary it out WITHOUT THINKING it's because 1) Snakes bite 2) I know snakes bite 3) I would be a fool to just wait for what I know to be true to happen. A CBT therapist would say, 'But you don't know if the snake is going to bite THIS time'... and thus wants you to leave the snake in your pocket so 'see'... So the snake bites you. You ask the snake why it bit you. YOU were willing to wait and see and give it another change because YOU didn't want to over-react... The snake looks at you blindly... " What do you expect, I'm a snake?! " . Lynnette - when I know it's 'bad', it's bad. > > For those of you who are in therapy at the moment, or have been in therapy > recently, has your therapist tried something called " cognitive behavior > therapy " ? This seems to be the basis of what my therapy is on, and I am > not entirely sold on it. > > Have any of you tried it? If so, has it helped or worked or has it not > worked out? > > I'm giving it the old college try, but so far it just seems like the > foundation of what they are trying to teach me is to just " think happy > thoughts " . Instead of jumping to conclusions, ask questions. To me this > doesn't make any sense and it seems to just open the door to becoming a > door mat. According to what I have read, a person who uses this particular > therapy may end up having a conversation like this: > > After many nights coming home late from work and suspicious phone calls and > charges on the credit card for hotels that you hadn't stayed in, a wife > begins to suspect her husband is having an affair. Using the cognitive > behavior therapy guidelines she takes a deep breath and decides not to jump > to conclusions. So I imagine the conversation would sound something like > this: > > wife: honey, there have been some very suspicious activity going on lately > and you just don't seem like yourself. We got the credit card bill and there > are charges on it for hotels...we haven't gone to any hotels...do you have > any idea what this could be about? > > husband: ummm, errr, .....no honey it must just be a mistake. > > At this point the cognitive behavior therapist would congratulate the wife > for asking the question and letting her husband explain...now see?....aren't > you glad you asked instead of jumping to conclusions? > > > I'm think.....uhhhh....no...he just lied to my face and you are > congratulation me for being naive. > > Maybe I'm completely wrong...can anyone shine some light on this type of > therapy? > > -- > Kisses and Nibbles, > Bunny > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 > > Cognitive Behaviour Therapy is crap! > > The premise is that you 'manage' your reactions to externals prior > to reacting. Well great... we should all do that... but if a snake > is in my pocket and I freak out and flip and go reactionary it out > WITHOUT THINKING it's because 1) Snakes bite 2) I know snakes bite > 3) I would be a fool to just wait for what I know to be true to > happen. > > A CBT therapist would say, 'But you don't know if the snake is going > to bite THIS time'... and thus wants you to leave the snake in your > pocket so 'see'... > > So the snake bites you. > > You ask the snake why it bit you. YOU were willing to wait and see > and give it another change because YOU didn't want to over-react... > > The snake looks at you blindly... " What do you expect, I'm a > snake?! " . > > Lynnette - when I know it's 'bad', it's bad. > Angel- I have to assume that your therapist is teaching you CBT as a means for dealing with the CBT in your life? My understanding is that if you can get a BPD individual into CBT behavioral therapy, it can help THEM. So in theory, if she teaches you skills associated with it, then it will help you with your BPD. For a BPD, feelings make fact. It would be my understanding that in CBT, you kind of try to get them to gather the facts BEFORE they get the feeling and react...no small task. In all of our cases, however, we have a lot of facts that help US make our decision and Lynnettes analogy with the snake is entirely appropriate. If the last 999 conversations I had with Nada have ended in disaster, I can be pretty sure that the 1000th will too. Doing the SAME thing and expecting DIFFERENT results is the epitomy of insanity. BUT...if we could do something different, we " may " have a chance at change. In my case, my BPD is presently too far off the deep end for me to attempt these techniques. If she ever met me somewhere in the vicinity of reality, the CBT concepts might be something I would try. But I honestly don't expet that to happen in my lifetime! Take care all! JJFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 Yeah, I was leaning that way too....the CBT may work if I was the one with BPD, but I'm not...I'm just trying to deal with what is left of the damage they have done to me so I can move on with my life. My major diagnosis is PTSD...for the life of me I can't figure out how " think happy thoughts " or " ask more questions " is going to help someone with PTSD. " Think happy thoughts " worked great for Pan...but even with that he needed a little pixie dust to help him fly...plus...let's not look over the fact that I'm not a freaking cartoon. Lynette's analogy was right on the money...I loved that. I actually mentioned something just last week about a decision I made regarding nada...right away my therapist jumped on the " jumping to conclusions " thing...I told her that it wasn't jumping to conclusions, it was an action based on what I knew to be true based on knowledge that I had obtained through a history of this very same behavior. Her reply " perhaps she didn't offend you, you just took it that way " ...she's always coming up with stuff like that. " I didn't say that, that is what you heard but that isn't what I said....you perceived it as negative when it really wasn't. " ....uhhhh...hello?....ummm...yeah ya did...you used those exact words. Seriously....I'm burning that damn book today and finding a new therapist. > > > > > Cognitive Behaviour Therapy is crap! > > > > The premise is that you 'manage' your reactions to externals prior > > to reacting. Well great... we should all do that... but if a snake > > is in my pocket and I freak out and flip and go reactionary it out > > WITHOUT THINKING it's because 1) Snakes bite 2) I know snakes bite > > 3) I would be a fool to just wait for what I know to be true to > > happen. > > > > A CBT therapist would say, 'But you don't know if the snake is > going > > to bite THIS time'... and thus wants you to leave the snake in your > > pocket so 'see'... > > > > So the snake bites you. > > > > You ask the snake why it bit you. YOU were willing to wait and see > > and give it another change because YOU didn't want to over-react... > > > > The snake looks at you blindly... " What do you expect, I'm a > > snake?! " . > > > > Lynnette - when I know it's 'bad', it's bad. > > > > Angel- > > I have to assume that your therapist is teaching you CBT as a means > for dealing with the CBT in your life? My understanding is that if > you can get a BPD individual into CBT behavioral therapy, it can help > THEM. So in theory, if she teaches you skills associated with it, > then it will help you with your BPD. For a BPD, feelings make fact. > It would be my understanding that in CBT, you kind of try to get them > to gather the facts BEFORE they get the feeling and react...no small > task. > > In all of our cases, however, we have a lot of facts that help US > make our decision and Lynnettes analogy with the snake is entirely > appropriate. If the last 999 conversations I had with Nada have > ended in disaster, I can be pretty sure that the 1000th will too. > Doing the SAME thing and expecting DIFFERENT results is the epitomy > of insanity. BUT...if we could do something different, we " may " have > a chance at change. In my case, my BPD is presently too far off the > deep end for me to attempt these techniques. If she ever met me > somewhere in the vicinity of reality, the CBT concepts might be > something I would try. But I honestly don't expet that to happen in > my lifetime! > > Take care all! > > JJFan > > > -- Kisses and Nibbles, Bunny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 Angel, Is this the same therapist that denies the existence of BPD? CBT is a truly useful therapy that has helped many people, but it's not " one size fits all " , and each patient should be evaluated individually for the best approach to resolving their issues. If CBT isn't working to help you resolve your issues, your therapist should be open to trying a different approach. CBT is not useful to adults who have endured major physical and/or mental abuse,to the point that PTSD results, and that applies to you. CBT techniques helped me to overcome a co-worker's suicide (in our office) and the panic disorder that resulted. But it didn't help with my nada issues - we had to rehash my childhood and what was most important to me was finding someone who believed ME rather than nada, and my strength to begin to heal came from my therapist being the first person to believe me, and also that she was the first to encourage me to leave nada, rather than any particular therapy technique. Find a therapist who can work in several different therapy types, rather than a cookie-cutter approach. > > For those of you who are in therapy at the moment, or have been in therapy > recently, has your therapist tried something called " cognitive behavior > therapy " ? This seems to be the basis of what my therapy is on, and I am > not entirely sold on it. > > Have any of you tried it? If so, has it helped or worked or has it not > worked out? > > I'm giving it the old college try, but so far it just seems like the > foundation of what they are trying to teach me is to just " think happy > thoughts " . Instead of jumping to conclusions, ask questions. To me this > doesn't make any sense and it seems to just open the door to becoming a > door mat. According to what I have read, a person who uses this particular > therapy may end up having a conversation like this: > > After many nights coming home late from work and suspicious phone calls and > charges on the credit card for hotels that you hadn't stayed in, a wife > begins to suspect her husband is having an affair. Using the cognitive > behavior therapy guidelines she takes a deep breath and decides not to jump > to conclusions. So I imagine the conversation would sound something like > this: > > wife: honey, there have been some very suspicious activity going on lately > and you just don't seem like yourself. We got the credit card bill and there > are charges on it for hotels...we haven't gone to any hotels...do you have > any idea what this could be about? > > husband: ummm, errr, .....no honey it must just be a mistake. > > At this point the cognitive behavior therapist would congratulate the wife > for asking the question and letting her husband explain...now see?....aren't > you glad you asked instead of jumping to conclusions? > > > I'm think.....uhhhh....no...he just lied to my face and you are > congratulation me for being naive. > > Maybe I'm completely wrong...can anyone shine some light on this type of > therapy? > > -- > Kisses and Nibbles, > Bunny > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 This kind of sums it up. The Scorpion and the FrogOne day, a scorpion looked around at the mountain where he lived and decided that he wanted a change. So he set out on a journey through the forests and hills. He climbed over rocks and under vines and kept going until he reached a river. The river was wide and swift, and the scorpion stopped to reconsider the situation. He couldn't see any way across. So he ran upriver and then checked downriver, all the while thinking that he might have to turn back. Suddenly, he saw a frog sitting in the rushes by the bank of the stream on the other side of the river. He decided to ask the frog for help getting across the stream. " Hellooo Mr. Frog! " called the scorpion across the water, " Would you be so kind as to give me a ride on your back across the river? " " Well now, Mr. Scorpion! How do I know that if I try to help you, you wont try to kill me? " asked the frog hesitantly. " Because, " the scorpion replied, " If I try to kill you, then I would die too, for you see I cannot swim! " Now this seemed to make sense to the frog. But he asked. " What about when I get close to the bank? You could still try to kill me and get back to the shore! " " This is true, " agreed the scorpion, " But then I wouldn't be able to get to the other side of the river! " " Alright then...how do I know you wont just wait till we get to the other side and THEN kill me? " said the frog. " Ahh..., " crooned the scorpion, " Because you see, once you've taken me to the other side of this river, I will be so grateful for your help, that it would hardly be fair to reward you with death, now would it?! " So the frog agreed to take the scorpion across the river. He swam over to the bank and settled himself near the mud to pick up his passenger. The scorpion crawled onto the frog's back, his sharp claws prickling into the frog's soft hide, and the frog slid into the river. The muddy water swirled around them, but the frog stayed near the surface so the scorpion would not drown. He kicked strongly through the first half of the stream, his flippers paddling wildly against the current. Halfway across the river, the frog suddenly felt a sharp sting in his back and, out of the corner of his eye, saw the scorpion remove his stinger from the frog's back. A deadening numbness began to creep into his limbs. " You fool! " croaked the frog, " Now we shall both die! Why on earth did you do that? " The scorpion shrugged, and did a little jig on the drownings frog's back. " I could not help myself. It is my nature. " Then they both sank into the muddy waters of the swiftly flowing river. Self destruction - " Its my Nature " , said the Scorpion... Re: Quickie Question > > Cognitive Behaviour Therapy is crap! > > The premise is that you 'manage' your reactions to externals prior > to reacting. Well great... we should all do that... but if a snake > is in my pocket and I freak out and flip and go reactionary it out > WITHOUT THINKING it's because 1) Snakes bite 2) I know snakes bite > 3) I would be a fool to just wait for what I know to be true to > happen. > > A CBT therapist would say, 'But you don't know if the snake is going > to bite THIS time'... and thus wants you to leave the snake in your > pocket so 'see'... > > So the snake bites you. > > You ask the snake why it bit you. YOU were willing to wait and see > and give it another change because YOU didn't want to over-react.. . > > The snake looks at you blindly... " What do you expect, I'm a > snake?! " . > > Lynnette - when I know it's 'bad', it's bad. > Angel- I have to assume that your therapist is teaching you CBT as a means for dealing with the CBT in your life? My understanding is that if you can get a BPD individual into CBT behavioral therapy, it can help THEM. So in theory, if she teaches you skills associated with it, then it will help you with your BPD. For a BPD, feelings make fact. It would be my understanding that in CBT, you kind of try to get them to gather the facts BEFORE they get the feeling and react...no small task. In all of our cases, however, we have a lot of facts that help US make our decision and Lynnettes analogy with the snake is entirely appropriate. If the last 999 conversations I had with Nada have ended in disaster, I can be pretty sure that the 1000th will too. Doing the SAME thing and expecting DIFFERENT results is the epitomy of insanity. BUT...if we could do something different, we " may " have a chance at change. In my case, my BPD is presently too far off the deep end for me to attempt these techniques. If she ever met me somewhere in the vicinity of reality, the CBT concepts might be something I would try. But I honestly don't expet that to happen in my lifetime! Take care all! 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Guest guest Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 Are you talking about Rational Emotive Behavior Therapy? I've heard the term CBT substituted for it. I have used REBT for nearly 20 years and find it extremely effective and very sensible - and frequently misunderstood. It's not so much a problem-solving tool as an emotion-managing tool; it is based on the fact that events themselves do not upset people, people upset themselves by their underlying irrational beliefs about events. In the " wife discovers hotel charges on the CC statement " example, the goal of REBT would not be to ferret out the husband but rather for the wife to modulate her feelings about the discovery. For example, even if she found out with 100% certainty that her husband was having an affair this would not have to lead inevitably to the feeling that she is a bad person & no one will ever love her, feelings of worthlessness & depression, of fear of being alone or inevitability of loss throughout the rest of her life. It may very reasonably lead her to take steps such as counseling or even divorce, but these undertakings would surely work most in her favor if she weren't beating herself up over what her husband did. In the " snake " example, the REBT position would be that since you know snakes bite, do not be surprised, upset, or angry when you put a snake in your pocket & it bites you; furthermore, if you know that snakes bite & you do not enjoy it, do what you can to minimize your contact with snakes and/or protect yourself from them. (See how nicely this parallels with handling the BP parent?) There is also a lot of focus on not " shoulding " , " musting " " awfulizing " etc. I had long found these tools very effective in combating nada's dramatic tendencies. For example, she flops down in a chair & exclaims, " Ain't it awful the way my knees hurt? To be so old? " & I reply, " Yes, it really is painful & inconvenient. " " Oh, but it's really awful! " she wails piteously. " No, not really, " I say, " Sure it takes you longer to do things you used to do, and some things you can't do at all. That IS inconvenient and probably frustrating too. " She becomes more agitated at my not playing along, " I just hate getting old & you'll understand when you're old how terrible it is! " and I reply, " I am sure I will be frustrated to lose some of my abilities but you are by no means incapacitated; also, frankly, getting older is the best any of us can hope for. " In the BP world, how many of us get upset about the things nada/fada does, in effect saying, " He/She's crazy, mean, abusive, whatever, and SHOULDN'T BE THAT WAY! " like the KO has any control over what should or should not be? Isn't it better to accept what IS & play it as it truly lays, not as we wish it would lay? You get the picture. I had had a year of therapy, a suicide attempt & a psych hospitalization before trying REBT. Every other form of therapy I tried was too far out in la-la land for me, all about hidden motivations, payoffs, etc; REBT is very much about setting good boundaries with yourself, your thoughts & feelings, as much as with others. It's not about thinking happy thoughts by a longshot; it's about thinking realistic thoughts & refusing to participate in merely wishful thinking. Since boundaries impact your feelings, realizing that you can't control the thoughts, feelings, and actions of others, only those of yourself can lead you to make better decisions overall and be happier besides. To get the real deal, I would suggest reading A New Guide to Rational Living by Dr. Albert Ellis, and read the WHOLE thing. Feel free to email me offline too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 Can you find another therapist, this one doesn't seem to be helping? Also, I would point blank ask her how she views BPD, if you don't like her answer, drop her. You don't need to be sabatoged by both the nada and your therapist at the same time. Re: Re: Quickie Question Yeah, I was leaning that way too....the CBT may work if I was the one with BPD, but I'm not...I'm just trying to deal with what is left of the damage they have done to me so I can move on with my life. My major diagnosis is PTSD...for the life of me I can't figure out how " think happy thoughts " or " ask more questions " is going to help someone with PTSD. " Think happy thoughts " worked great for Pan...but even with that he needed a little pixie dust to help him fly...plus.. .let's not look over the fact that I'm not a freaking cartoon. Lynette's analogy was right on the money...I loved that. I actually mentioned something just last week about a decision I made regarding nada...right away my therapist jumped on the " jumping to conclusions " thing...I told her that it wasn't jumping to conclusions, it was an action based on what I knew to be true based on knowledge that I had obtained through a history of this very same behavior. Her reply " perhaps she didn't offend you, you just took it that way " ...she's always coming up with stuff like that. " I didn't say that, that is what you heard but that isn't what I said.....you perceived it as negative when it really wasn't. " .... uhhhh...hello? ....ummm. ..yeah ya did...you used those exact words. Seriously... .I'm burning that damn book today and finding a new therapist. On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 12:28 PM, jjfan42 <jjfan42yahoo (DOT) com> wrote: > > > > > Cognitive Behaviour Therapy is crap! > > > > The premise is that you 'manage' your reactions to externals prior > > to reacting. Well great... we should all do that... but if a snake > > is in my pocket and I freak out and flip and go reactionary it out > > WITHOUT THINKING it's because 1) Snakes bite 2) I know snakes bite > > 3) I would be a fool to just wait for what I know to be true to > > happen. > > > > A CBT therapist would say, 'But you don't know if the snake is > going > > to bite THIS time'... and thus wants you to leave the snake in your > > pocket so 'see'.... > > > > So the snake bites you. > > > > You ask the snake why it bit you. YOU were willing to wait and see > > and give it another change because YOU didn't want to over-react.. . > > > > The snake looks at you blindly... " What do you expect, I'm a > > snake?! " . > > > > Lynnette - when I know it's 'bad', it's bad. > > > > Angel- > > I have to assume that your therapist is teaching you CBT as a means > for dealing with the CBT in your life? My understanding is that if > you can get a BPD individual into CBT behavioral therapy, it can help > THEM. So in theory, if she teaches you skills associated with it, > then it will help you with your BPD. For a BPD, feelings make fact. > It would be my understanding that in CBT, you kind of try to get them > to gather the facts BEFORE they get the feeling and react...no small > task. > > In all of our cases, however, we have a lot of facts that help US > make our decision and Lynnettes analogy with the snake is entirely > appropriate. If the last 999 conversations I had with Nada have > ended in disaster, I can be pretty sure that the 1000th will too. > Doing the SAME thing and expecting DIFFERENT results is the epitomy > of insanity. BUT...if we could do something different, we " may " have > a chance at change. In my case, my BPD is presently too far off the > deep end for me to attempt these techniques. If she ever met me > somewhere in the vicinity of reality, the CBT concepts might be > something I would try. But I honestly don't expet that to happen in > my lifetime! > > Take care all! > > JJFan > > > -- Kisses and Nibbles, Bunny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 Sounds pretty stupid too me. I mean what are they encouraging complete denial of what's really going on? S T U P I D That's how the BPD in your life wants you to see it...or not see it as the case may be. > > For those of you who are in therapy at the moment, or have been in therapy > recently, has your therapist tried something called " cognitive behavior > therapy " ? This seems to be the basis of what my therapy is on, and I am > not entirely sold on it. > > Have any of you tried it? If so, has it helped or worked or has it not > worked out? > > I'm giving it the old college try, but so far it just seems like the > foundation of what they are trying to teach me is to just " think happy > thoughts " . Instead of jumping to conclusions, ask questions. To me this > doesn't make any sense and it seems to just open the door to becoming a > door mat. According to what I have read, a person who uses this particular > therapy may end up having a conversation like this: > > After many nights coming home late from work and suspicious phone calls and > charges on the credit card for hotels that you hadn't stayed in, a wife > begins to suspect her husband is having an affair. Using the cognitive > behavior therapy guidelines she takes a deep breath and decides not to jump > to conclusions. So I imagine the conversation would sound something like > this: > > wife: honey, there have been some very suspicious activity going on lately > and you just don't seem like yourself. We got the credit card bill and there > are charges on it for hotels...we haven't gone to any hotels...do you have > any idea what this could be about? > > husband: ummm, errr, .....no honey it must just be a mistake. > > At this point the cognitive behavior therapist would congratulate the wife > for asking the question and letting her husband explain...now see?....aren't > you glad you asked instead of jumping to conclusions? > > > I'm think.....uhhhh....no...he just lied to my face and you are > congratulation me for being naive. > > Maybe I'm completely wrong...can anyone shine some light on this type of > therapy? > > -- > Kisses and Nibbles, > Bunny > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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