Re: disliking yourself

[Guest guest]

This might sound hokey & simplistic but it works for me. You said

that you have positive qualities that you can think of (and I bet you

have *many*)-make a list of them, and try to think of as many as you

can. Then post it somewhere you'll see it many times a day. Go

through the list & read each one outloud & try to really 'hear' it.

It feels awkward & embarrassing at first, but it helps 'reprogram'

you brain. Also, when you have a negative thought about yourself,

stop & ask yourself if it's really true-chances are it's not. Then

counteract it with something positive. It's hard to catch those

negative thoughts at first, but don't give up. Someone I know calls

those critical voices the " itty-bitty-shitty-committee " & it helps

to think of those criticisms that way. I struggled with feelings of

disliking myself so much that I almost starting cutting myself. I

went to a counselor & she had me do affirmations. I didn't like it

at first, but I can say it really helps. I don't feel so bad about

myself as intensely or as often as I used to. You are a strong

person for surviving a borderline parent & brave for posting in the

group!

Blessings!

Jen

>

> This holiday weekend has been intense for me, not because my nada

was

> here (she wasn't, thank the gods!) but because my half siblings

were.

> I realized that even within the context of being with my half

> siblings, I am treated as a scapegoat. Injustices visited upon us by

> our parents suddenly become my fault. And I am, once again, made to

> feel like an outsider, like I don't really belong with them. How

> familiar. That's how my mother and younger brother make me feel.

>

> I've realized that I carry this feeling with me wherever I go.

> Wherever I am, I feel like I don't belong. Like I come from nowhere,

> and I have no home. I have a wonderful husband and two cute

animals, I

> love them all but I sometimes wonder how my husband can stand to

love

> a person like me. At my core, I feel lower than dirt.

>

> I know this isn't true, I can think of positive qualities I possess.

> And I know that this feeling is the remnant of my nada's voice in my

> head and heart. But it's still there, and it hurts terribly.

>

> I know I need to accept myself, and eventually like myself, if I am

to

> make any progress in my relationship with myself and consequently,

> others. But I don't really know how to do that, or where to begin. I

> feel like at some level, the mere act of thinking that I am not a

> scapegoat or a pathetic person is a big lie. It's like there's a

> horrible alien in me that is trying to kill off the real me, or

force

> it to merge into the alien. Does that make any sense?

>

> How do I get rid of this insidious premise, upon which so much of my

> behavior is based? How do I begin to accept myself?

>

> qwerty

>

[Guest guest]

I'm 32 and a half. At this point, I better sh1t or get off the pot

really soon . My physical health is much improved (thank the gods),

and I am probably physically capable of giving birth to a child. I'm

just not sure about my emotional health yet.

qwerty

>

now. My main rule of motherhood is that I won't become one until I hit

30. I figure that gives me enough time to make sure I'm really ready.

Hopefully...

>

> Jae

[Guest guest]

Thank you, Jen! I just might do that this weekend. We just got a

printer, and will set it up on Saturday or Sunday. I'm thinking I can

type up a list, print it out, and make it into a little collage.

qwerty

>

> This might sound hokey & simplistic but it works for me. You said

> that you have positive qualities that you can think of (and I bet you

> have *many*)-make a list of them, and try to think of as many as you

> can. Then post it somewhere you'll see it many times a day. Go

> through the list & read each one outloud & try to really 'hear' it.

> It feels awkward & embarrassing at first, but it helps 'reprogram'

> you brain. Also, when you have a negative thought about yourself,

> stop & ask yourself if it's really true-chances are it's not. Then

> counteract it with something positive. It's hard to catch those

> negative thoughts at first, but don't give up. Someone I know calls

> those critical voices the " itty-bitty-shitty-committee " & it helps

> to think of those criticisms that way. I struggled with feelings of

> disliking myself so much that I almost starting cutting myself. I

> went to a counselor & she had me do affirmations. I didn't like it

> at first, but I can say it really helps. I don't feel so bad about

> myself as intensely or as often as I used to. You are a strong

> person for surviving a borderline parent & brave for posting in the

> group!

>

> Blessings!

> Jen

>

[Guest guest]

Lack of follow-through, procrastination, & lack of perseverance are

my biggest faults; these impact me to the extent that I have not

fulfilled my potential so to speak although doing okay. It's like I

want to set up situations where I keep all the plates in the air

while shooting myself in the foot. Even with these faults I manage

my obligations responsibly, but with more stress on myself than is

necessary. How do I tell if these characteristics are really me or

if they're just fleas from dealing with nada's crises for 40 years?

I have a string of unfinished projects like you wouldn't believe. I

hate to finish things & then I hate myself because I don't finish

things. I put them out of my sight but feel like I end up hiding

from them. Is that crazy?

I have a book on organization that discusses in detail several

emotional causes of disorganization and certain compensating

methods/goals specific to each. It was very insightful and

worked for me on the whole better than anything else.

BTW Kyla, I used to be a medical proofreader & had noted in passing

how great your spelling, punctuation, etc. is. My impression is

that you are a competent, organized person. So you've got that going

for you...!

[Guest guest]

--

I want to print out your post! It's like I wrote it myself! Thanks

for the compliment, too, by the way. I've got so many projects, big

and small, that I just give up on and procrastinate. Drives my poor

husband absolutely batty -- he's naturally organized, follows

through on EVERYTHING, and just about every day of his life is a

productive day. (He does log in some " couch potato " time, so he's

not a TOTAL robot!)

I'd like to know the name of that book! And I am sorry we share the

same " maladies " , but it's so heartening to read that you -- and

others here! -- are just like me. It just deflates me every day to

fail, yet again, in getting things done. I've wasted a lot of good

days of my life mired in procrastination.

Thanks for sharing -- There's comfort knowing I'm -- we're -- not

alone.

-Kyla

>

> Lack of follow-through, procrastination, & lack of perseverance

are

> my biggest faults; these impact me to the extent that I have not

> fulfilled my potential so to speak although doing okay. It's like

I

> want to set up situations where I keep all the plates in the air

> while shooting myself in the foot. Even with these faults I

manage

> my obligations responsibly, but with more stress on myself than is

> necessary. How do I tell if these characteristics are really me or

> if they're just fleas from dealing with nada's crises for 40 years?

>

> I have a string of unfinished projects like you wouldn't believe.

I

> hate to finish things & then I hate myself because I don't finish

> things. I put them out of my sight but feel like I end up hiding

> from them. Is that crazy?

>

> I have a book on organization that discusses in detail several

> emotional causes of disorganization and certain compensating

> methods/goals specific to each. It was very insightful and

> worked for me on the whole better than anything else.

>

> BTW Kyla, I used to be a medical proofreader & had noted in

passing

> how great your spelling, punctuation, etc. is. My impression is

> that you are a competent, organized person. So you've got that

going

> for you...!

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I have HUGE problems with procrastination, making decisions (I *know* that one

is a flea),

and I generally feel like I am a huge quitter. I tend to just not start

something because I so

hate the feeling of starting something and not finishing it.

[Guest guest]

One other thing I will say on this subject: There are extremes the

OTHER way --

I have a dear friend of 24 years -- from college -- who is fraught

with anxiety. When she was 11 years old, her whole life changed on

a catastrophic event: her father was paralyzed in an accident. It

altered her entire family's life -- and he was a quadreplegic for

the rest of his life. That kind of trauma can change a person.

She's a wonderful person, but she CANNOT sit still. I've followed

her around for all these years because when we'd get together over

coffee, it would have to be at HER house (which was fine with me, I

loved going to her house and I loved our visits, our friendship.)

because she was always having to DO something while we chatted. And

I understand because I have two kids (she has three!) and I know

that stuff is constantly having to be done.

She's a stellar employee, because of her follow-through and her

drive -- she'll work circles around everybody else. She's an

employer's DREAM. She likes to be in control -- and she runs

EVERYTHING at her house. Her husband will stand up for himself when

he's had enough of her bossing him around -- but he picks his

battles, and she runs the house. She has to control EVERYTHING,

because her mind sees disaster just around the corner.

Well, it came to a head a few weeks ago -- after weeks of planning a

fun labor day weekend at our lakehouse, she cut out early, and I

KNOW it was because it was driving her crazy to be away from home

and not GETTING STUFF DONE. We had worked so hard to find time to

get away and she cut out after 24 hours, making up an excuse that I

found out later to be false.

Anyway -- after she left (taking her husband and 3 kids with her --

the kids didn't want to go! They were having a blast!) I did some

research and found it -- BINGO -- she has Obsessive Compulsive

Personality Disorder. (Not the one where you have to touch a

doorknob 37 times before entering a room -- that's OC Anxiety

Disorder) She met all but ONE of the criteria. If she's not knee

deep in projects, she's telling you all about the projects

she's " gonna " do. She's addicted to tasking. It calms her, gives

her a focus -- takes her away from being alone with her thoughts and

fears.

So, I say all that to say this: There has to be balance in life,

and this friend has often told me over the years " You're so laid

back -- I wish I could be as laid back as you. "

And I've always admired her drive, her self-motivation, etc.

Ironic, isn't it?

So, maybe just striving for a balance of the two is worthwhile. I

finally wised up that this friendship isn't really serving me

anymore -- I'm so used to taking scraps from everybody, I always put

up with her controlling everything. Her husband and I will

commiserate about it -- he's a friend from college, too, and we can

be frank about how she runs everybody around. Usually laugh about

it. Well, I've had enough. I'm pulling back. Politely,

respectfully, and without fanfare, but I'm pulling back.

-Kyla

>

> Lack of follow-through, procrastination, & lack of perseverance

are

> my biggest faults; these impact me to the extent that I have not

> fulfilled my potential so to speak although doing okay. It's like

I

> want to set up situations where I keep all the plates in the air

> while shooting myself in the foot. Even with these faults I

manage

> my obligations responsibly, but with more stress on myself than is

> necessary. How do I tell if these characteristics are really me or

> if they're just fleas from dealing with nada's crises for 40 years?

>

> I have a string of unfinished projects like you wouldn't believe.

I

> hate to finish things & then I hate myself because I don't finish

> things. I put them out of my sight but feel like I end up hiding

> from them. Is that crazy?

>

> I have a book on organization that discusses in detail several

> emotional causes of disorganization and certain compensating

> methods/goals specific to each. It was very insightful and

> worked for me on the whole better than anything else.

>

> BTW Kyla, I used to be a medical proofreader & had noted in

passing

> how great your spelling, punctuation, etc. is. My impression is

> that you are a competent, organized person. So you've got that

going

> for you...!

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Ditto! Since I'm a stay at home mom with no one really watching me, I

know all the tricks to getting the stuff I NEED to get done, but I

could be doing SO MUCH more.

You're not alone -- I'm a quitter, too. This might give you a laugh --

I bought a self-hypnosis DVD (it was $100! But I thought " Hey, it's

a small investment if I self-hypnotize myself into being more

productive! AHA!). Where is it? Still in the original package,

unopened, hidden under the couch.

Yep, I procrastinated on my non-quitting hypnosis.

-Kyla

>

> I have HUGE problems with procrastination, making decisions (I

*know* that one is a flea),

> and I generally feel like I am a huge quitter. I tend to just not

start something because I so

> hate the feeling of starting something and not finishing it.

>

[Guest guest]

Hey -- I like this! Thanks for the uplifting, proactive advice --

I'll try that!

-Kyla

> >

> > This holiday weekend has been intense for me, not because my

nada

> was

> > here (she wasn't, thank the gods!) but because my half siblings

> were.

> > I realized that even within the context of being with my half

> > siblings, I am treated as a scapegoat. Injustices visited upon

us by

> > our parents suddenly become my fault. And I am, once again, made

to

> > feel like an outsider, like I don't really belong with them. How

> > familiar. That's how my mother and younger brother make me feel.

> >

> > I've realized that I carry this feeling with me wherever I go.

> > Wherever I am, I feel like I don't belong. Like I come from

nowhere,

> > and I have no home. I have a wonderful husband and two cute

> animals, I

> > love them all but I sometimes wonder how my husband can stand to

> love

> > a person like me. At my core, I feel lower than dirt.

> >

> > I know this isn't true, I can think of positive qualities I

possess.

> > And I know that this feeling is the remnant of my nada's voice

in my

> > head and heart. But it's still there, and it hurts terribly.

> >

> > I know I need to accept myself, and eventually like myself, if I

am

> to

> > make any progress in my relationship with myself and

consequently,

> > others. But I don't really know how to do that, or where to

begin. I

> > feel like at some level, the mere act of thinking that I am not a

> > scapegoat or a pathetic person is a big lie. It's like there's a

> > horrible alien in me that is trying to kill off the real me, or

> force

> > it to merge into the alien. Does that make any sense?

> >

> > How do I get rid of this insidious premise, upon which so much

of my

> > behavior is based? How do I begin to accept myself?

> >

> > qwerty

> >

>

[Guest guest]

it's just wild that i've never thought about it before. the odd

thing is that i don't really hear my name very often. it might be

because i'm generally always paying attention to the people i'm with,

so it's not necessary to call me by name to get my attention. also,

people use all KINDS of nicknames for me (sar-bear, bink, teddy

ruxpin...because i " always have a story to tell, " pumpkin

guts...that's my husband's pet name for me, then my dad has a whole

slew of names for me: kiddo, sweetheart, sugar, sari, etc). i guess

when my mom was happy with me when i was little, she called me sarita

linda...which i never minded.

but there's another thing about my name. it's not just that i don't

like hearing it. i don't even feel attached to it. it doesn't sound

like it has anything to do with me. (honestly, considering i spend

so much time online under the name bink and have pixel people who

only know me by that, but whom i would consider bona fide friends,

that's weirdly starting to feel like my " real " name.) i ALSO thought

it was because my name was very common (it's sarah), and i feel like

i'm introducing a stranger when i say, " hi, my name is sarah. " it

doesn't roll of my tongue very well. it's like my label. (hearing

people introduce me is also very very weird. it's weird that people

know me as " sarah " when i don't even think of myself as " sarah. " )

when people with accents say it, though i don't mind it (12 years of

spanish class, a polish boss, and several miscelanious foreign

friends have gotten me very accustom to hearing " sada, " and that's

not bad).

and if i WERE going to change my name, i would probably change it to

sadie, which is apparently etymologically close to the name sarah

(and to sally, too), but my husband would probably freak because i

didn't even take his last name, so why would i change my first

name?!?! (my last name is the only part of my name i like!)

COINCIDENTALLY...my mom ALSO hates her first name (hasn't used her

given name in years, she decided on a new name in high school).

RAMBLING!

> >

> > GAH!!!

> >

> > I HAVE THE SAME THING WITH HEARING MY NAME! i do not like it. i

> > would prefer to be refered to by my last name (and i'm a teacher,

so

> > that's normally how i am refered to), but if someone says my

first

> > name, it just sounds wrong. in fact, i'm MUCH more comfortable

> > answering to " hey you! " than my given name.

> >

> > that is so weird.

>

> Not weird at all. I've read articles about disciplining dogs that

> caution not to use the dog's name when scolding a dog. For example,

if

> a dog tries to eat something that endangers his health (chocolate,

for

> example) it's better to firmly say " No! " than to use the dog's name.

> If you use the dog's name as part of the scolding, the dog learns to

> associate his own name with something bad. And that's very sad

indeed.

>

> We've been yelled at no doubt, using our own names. Hence our

dislike

> for our names. Lucky for me, I guess, my mom usually uses other

names

> to refer to me. When she's in a good mood, she uses various annoying

> diminutives in Yiddish. When she was angry, she would call me

various

> " pet " curse names. Today, if she gets snippy at me on the phone I

hang up.

>

> qwerty

>

[Guest guest]

i've read a lot about follow-through and " laziness " here on the board

and i have to say that it is one of my worst traits. i'm actually

improving, but i think it's only because my husband is the most

tenatious and driven human alive (he graduated from high school with

53 college credits...the guy is a machine), so he basically rides me

until i get things done. then i look back at what i've done and i

go, WHOAH! i did that! it doesn't help too much on the next project

(hehehe), but at least i know that, given the right motivation, i can

overcome the " laziness. "

now i'm putting " laziness " in quotations here because i don't know if

it's actually laziness. i think it's a deep anxiety of starting

anything new for fear that SOMEONE (mom, i'm looking at you) is going

to come around and either trash me for trying to do something new or

sit around and ridicule me as to why i would want to do something so

dumb. (this includes choosing my college major, deciding to get

married, my rock band, the animation project, getting my teaching

certification, etc etc.)

i think this is where it comes from: i'm 25 and sometimes when i get

into my house, i just can't seem to leave it again. and it's weird

because i am not thinking, " jeez, i don't want to do anything, so i

just won't. i'm ACTUALLY think, " i really wish i could go get some

groceries. i really wish i could go to the book store, " but it's

like i feel i don't have the ability to leave the house or

something. i THINK it might be the fact that my mom didn't allow me

to leave the house without a fight because otherwise, i was leaving

her alone, and HEAVEN FORBID i should ever leave a full-grown adult

by herself.

it drives my husband up the freaking wall because he sees me as a

proactive, assertive opinionated chick...who just doesn't " realize

her potential. " i do feel like a giant 7 year old sometimes (like,

why can't i just DO things?!), but i just tell him that he needs to

stay on my case and that the nagging actually does help. and there

are some ridiculous things that help me. we have...A CHORE CHART! i

am a freaking adult and i have to get checks on a chart to motivate

me to do housework... oh well. WHO CARES! whatever works, right?

i teach math and i feel really lucky to work with 12 year olds

because this is the point where kids usually lose their motivation to

pursue math (and education in general). i get to say, " you guys can

do it! math is just a logical way of thinking about things! " and

then i show them that they can get it, and then they feel smart,

which is cool.

> >

> > This holiday weekend has been intense for me, not because my nada

> was

> > here (she wasn't, thank the gods!) but because my half siblings

> were.

> > I realized that even within the context of being with my half

> > siblings, I am treated as a scapegoat. Injustices visited upon us

> by

> > our parents suddenly become my fault. And I am, once again, made

to

> > feel like an outsider, like I don't really belong with them. How

> > familiar. That's how my mother and younger brother make me feel.

> >

> > I've realized that I carry this feeling with me wherever I go.

> > Wherever I am, I feel like I don't belong. Like I come from

> nowhere,

> > and I have no home. I have a wonderful husband and two cute

> animals, I

> > love them all but I sometimes wonder how my husband can stand to

> love

> > a person like me. At my core, I feel lower than dirt.

> >

> > I know this isn't true, I can think of positive qualities I

> possess.

> > And I know that this feeling is the remnant of my nada's voice in

> my

> > head and heart. But it's still there, and it hurts terribly.

> >

> > I know I need to accept myself, and eventually like myself, if I

> am to

> > make any progress in my relationship with myself and consequently,

> > others. But I don't really know how to do that, or where to

begin.

> I

> > feel like at some level, the mere act of thinking that I am not a

> > scapegoat or a pathetic person is a big lie. It's like there's a

> > horrible alien in me that is trying to kill off the real me, or

> force

> > it to merge into the alien. Does that make any sense?

> >

> > How do I get rid of this insidious premise, upon which so much of

> my

> > behavior is based? How do I begin to accept myself?

> >

> > qwerty

> >

>

[Guest guest]

, could you post the title of the book on disorganization? It

would be very helpful to me and other friends of mine. Thanks!

LJ

[Guest guest]

Sure, it's called Organizing from the Inside Out: The Foolproof System

For Organizing Your Home, Your Office and Your Life by

Morgenstern.

>

> , could you post the title of the book on disorganization? It

> would be very helpful to me and other friends of mine. Thanks!

>

> LJ

>

[Guest guest]

Bink (or ),

My name is Sara too (just with no " h " at the end) and I feel the

exact same way you do about the name. Telling people what my name is

doesn't feel right. When I was reading your post it felt like you

had been reading my heart.

Strange, but interesting.

> > >

> > > GAH!!!

> > >

> > > I HAVE THE SAME THING WITH HEARING MY NAME! i do not like

it. i

> > > would prefer to be refered to by my last name (and i'm a

teacher,

> so

> > > that's normally how i am refered to), but if someone says my

> first

> > > name, it just sounds wrong. in fact, i'm MUCH more

comfortable

> > > answering to " hey you! " than my given name.

> > >

> > > that is so weird.

> >

> > Not weird at all. I've read articles about disciplining dogs that

> > caution not to use the dog's name when scolding a dog. For

example,

> if

> > a dog tries to eat something that endangers his health

(chocolate,

> for

> > example) it's better to firmly say " No! " than to use the dog's

name.

> > If you use the dog's name as part of the scolding, the dog

learns to

> > associate his own name with something bad. And that's very sad

> indeed.

> >

> > We've been yelled at no doubt, using our own names. Hence our

> dislike

> > for our names. Lucky for me, I guess, my mom usually uses other

> names

> > to refer to me. When she's in a good mood, she uses various

annoying

> > diminutives in Yiddish. When she was angry, she would call me

> various

> > " pet " curse names. Today, if she gets snippy at me on the phone

I

> hang up.

> >

> > qwerty

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Jae,

I am glad that you realize that the perfect you will never exist.

It is now time to love and embrace the imperfect you. Think about

how it is those imperfections that make you unique. And yes, if you

did all that you thought you should do, you would live a boring

life. You would just be a robot. Life, with its imperfections, is

a much better choice.

Sylvia

> >

> > I'm terrified to start a new job (after being a stay at home mom

for

> > 13 years) because I'm scared I'll just carry my lazy habits

there,

> > and then they'll find I'm not very good.

>

> I hear ya. I often feel like a fraud because I don't work really

hard

> 100% of the day. I have to remind myself that I do a good job, that

> I've gotten good reviews, and that I haven't been fired from a

job.

>

> > I have trouble with follow through -- terrible trouble. I'm

afraid

> > to sort through and file things, so I have piles in the kitchen

and

> > piles of books and papers next to my bed.

>

> Oh wow, do I ever know how you feel. I had a big problem with just

> letting stuff sit around, and taking boxes of unsorted papers and

mail

> with me where ever we moved. Finally, when we moved back to the

US, my

> husband helped me sort everything and get rid of a whole lot of

stuff

> that I just didn't need. It was incredibly liberating. I now get a

> sense of accomplishment when I collect things I don't need and just

> throw them out.

>

> I still have little piles here and there, but I keep them small and

> get rid of them piecemeal. Our place still isn't as neat as I'd

like,

> but it's much nicer than it used to be. And a filing cabinet, btw,

> does wonders.

>

> I also have difficulty starting projects and following them

through.

> I'm currently having difficulty continuing a creative project I

> started a while back. A blog, actually. I just haven't been

updating

> it much. I like writing, but it's hard work, and not many people

read

> it. So I feel like my work is unappreciated and... here it is

again...

> worthless.

>

> > The list is endless -- I wake up beating myself up for not being

> > perfect, basically.

>

> Yep, me too.

>

> > It's helped a lot to be here on this board --

> > and my therapist is good at picking that thinking apart and

taking a

> > good look at it.

>

> I keep thinking that one day I'll wake up and I'll have fixed all

my

> problems--I' ll be perfect. And then I'll be able to have kids,

because

> until then, I might turn into my nada gods forbid. I have to

actually

> remind myself that I am a work in progress, as we all are.

>

> qwerty

>

>

>

>

>

>

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May I join your group of procrastinators? This is my biggest

stumbling block right now. It got very bad this year when I slipped

into a depression, and although that is better, the procratination

surrounds me - as you may well know what that is.

Sylvia

> >

> > Lack of follow-through, procrastination, & lack of perseverance

> are

> > my biggest faults; these impact me to the extent that I have not

> > fulfilled my potential so to speak although doing okay. It's

like

> I

> > want to set up situations where I keep all the plates in the air

> > while shooting myself in the foot. Even with these faults I

> manage

> > my obligations responsibly, but with more stress on myself than

is

> > necessary. How do I tell if these characteristics are really me

or

> > if they're just fleas from dealing with nada's crises for 40

years?

> >

> > I have a string of unfinished projects like you wouldn't

believe.

> I

> > hate to finish things & then I hate myself because I don't

finish

> > things. I put them out of my sight but feel like I end up hiding

> > from them. Is that crazy?

> >

> > I have a book on organization that discusses in detail several

> > emotional causes of disorganization and certain compensating

> > methods/goals specific to each. It was very insightful and

> > worked for me on the whole better than anything else.

> >

> > BTW Kyla, I used to be a medical proofreader & had noted in

> passing

> > how great your spelling, punctuation, etc. is. My impression is

> > that you are a competent, organized person. So you've got that

> going

> > for you...!

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

You can join the procrastinators group but there's a waiting list.

Nobody has gotten around to registering all the members.

qwerty

>

> May I join your group of procrastinators? This is my biggest

> stumbling block right now. It got very bad this year when I slipped

> into a depression, and although that is better, the procratination

> surrounds me - as you may well know what that is.

>

> Sylvia

[Guest guest]

Well, like, I didn't mean today. LOL!

> >

> > May I join your group of procrastinators? This is my biggest

> > stumbling block right now. It got very bad this year when I

slipped

> > into a depression, and although that is better, the

procratination

> > surrounds me - as you may well know what that is.

> >

> > Sylvia

>

[Guest guest]

Hehehe,

I say " put off today what you can do tomorrow " !!!

I'm off to clean that closet, and to put the Easter and Holloween

stuff away, that are on top of the 4th of July crap, to get to the

Christmas decorations;0)

Tis the season.......drlingirl

> >

> > May I join your group of procrastinators? This is my biggest

> > stumbling block right now. It got very bad this year when I

slipped

> > into a depression, and although that is better, the

procratination

> > surrounds me - as you may well know what that is.

> >

> > Sylvia

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