Re: Re: Question for Betsy

[Guest guest]

Betsy,

Not that I take fish oil anyway, but just curious. I've never actually seen

those. Are they more concentrated, or are the capsules just bigger (in which

case you still get the same amount of oil in fewer pills)?

Pierre

new member background info

> >> >

> >> >

> >>> > > have changed from phf74 to paul1xa - cant believe the amount of

> > paul

> >>> > > 1's, 2's 503's etc in existence!

> >>> > > Many thanks for your kind welcome comments.

> >>> > >

> >>> > > As briefly confirmed, i was diagnosed with iga by biopsy in 1997

> > (no

> >>> > > crescents). At that time the consultant was professor lee (UK)and

> >>> > > basically he said to continue leading my life as normal and made

> > no

> >>> > > further recommendations apart from attending annual checkups

> >>> > > including 24hr urine and blood etc. He also said that there was no

> >>> > > cure for iga and also that the condition was not hereditary -

> > having

> >>> > > completed an amount of basic research i now wonder whether both

> > these

> >>> > > statements are correct? Anyway, 4 years have gone by and mainly

> > due

> >>> > > to family responsibilities decided to find out more about this

> >>> > > condition with a view to stabilising/reversing if possible - i am

> > 40

> >>> > > years of age with three young children.

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Details as per 1/11/01:

> >>> > > Proteinuria 24hr urine = 2grms (understand implications of high

> > pro)

> >>> > > Typical blood pressure = 155/90 ( " " " " "

> > blood)

> >>> > > Cholesterol = 8.3 (Unsure of implications if high)

> >>> > > Creatinine = 78 (unsure of significance)

> >>> > > Albumen = 38 (totally unsure of sign--)

> >>> > > Urea = 4 (totally unsure of sign--)

> >>> > >

> >>> > > My limited research confirms the following:

> >>> > > 1. I understand that some consultants might recommend a high

> > intake

> >>> > > of fish oil capsules (12 per day EPA 180/DHA 120 1grm and i vit E

> >>> > > 500iu, as a matter of course. Some studies would appear to show

> >>> > > excellent results with much reduced proteinuria over a 6mth

> > period.

> >>> > >

> >>> > > ----- At an annual appointment last month i asked the opinion of

> > the

> >>> > > consultant regarding this. Basically, his thoughts were that

> > studies

> >>> > > were inconclusive and did not consider the above treatment to be

> >>> > > worthwhile. I started the above dosages 4 weeks ago with the

> >>> > > intention of seeing whether or not proteinuria will decrease.

> >>> > >

> >>> > > 2. Obviously high blood pressure is a recognised factor in

> >>> > > accelerating the condition and the control of this by way of an

> > ace

> >>> > > inhibitor, such as Enalapril, is important.

> >>> > >

> >>> > > ----At the same appointment, he confirmed that it was probably a

> > good

> >>> > > idea to start on Enalapril (5mg). My thought is to allow a period

> > of

> >>> > > time, say 3 mths, in which to confirm whether or not the fish

> >>> > > capsules are having the desired effect before starting on

> > Enalapril.

> >>> > >

> >>> > > 3. Tonsillectomy would appear to stabilise or even reverse the

> >>> > > condition in some studies.

> >>> > >

> >>> > > -----At the same appointment, i asked whether he would recommend

> > this

> >>> > > to which he replied that he was not aware of this procedure. He

> >>> > > decided to ask a senior consultant (Ian Abbs) who apparently

> >>> > > confirmed that this procedure might be carried out in advanced

> >>> > > stages. My thoughts were why should one wait until the condition

> >>> > > advances if there is evidence to show that an early tonsillectomy

> >>> > > would be of benefit?

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Any comments on the above would be extremely welcome. You will

> >>> > > realise that my knowledge of the condition is very basic and i

> > look

> >>> > > forward to learning more about the condition from you all and look

> >>> > > forward to your responses.

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Happy Christmas and kind regards

> >>> > >

> >>> > > paul

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

super EPA? where from?

new member background info

> > >> >

> > >> >

> > >>> > > have changed from phf74 to paul1xa - cant believe the amount of

> > > paul

> > >>> > > 1's, 2's 503's etc in existence!

> > >>> > > Many thanks for your kind welcome comments.

> > >>> > >

> > >>> > > As briefly confirmed, i was diagnosed with iga by biopsy in 1997

> > > (no

> > >>> > > crescents). At that time the consultant was professor lee

(UK)and

> > >>> > > basically he said to continue leading my life as normal and made

> > > no

> > >>> > > further recommendations apart from attending annual checkups

> > >>> > > including 24hr urine and blood etc. He also said that there was

no

> > >>> > > cure for iga and also that the condition was not hereditary -

> > > having

> > >>> > > completed an amount of basic research i now wonder whether both

> > > these

> > >>> > > statements are correct? Anyway, 4 years have gone by and mainly

> > > due

> > >>> > > to family responsibilities decided to find out more about this

> > >>> > > condition with a view to stabilising/reversing if possible - i

am

> > > 40

> > >>> > > years of age with three young children.

> > >>> > >

> > >>> > > Details as per 1/11/01:

> > >>> > > Proteinuria 24hr urine = 2grms (understand implications of high

> > > pro)

> > >>> > > Typical blood pressure = 155/90 ( " " " " "

> > > blood)

> > >>> > > Cholesterol = 8.3 (Unsure of implications if high)

> > >>> > > Creatinine = 78 (unsure of significance)

> > >>> > > Albumen = 38 (totally unsure of sign--)

> > >>> > > Urea = 4 (totally unsure of sign--)

> > >>> > >

> > >>> > > My limited research confirms the following:

> > >>> > > 1. I understand that some consultants might recommend a high

> > > intake

> > >>> > > of fish oil capsules (12 per day EPA 180/DHA 120 1grm and i vit

E

> > >>> > > 500iu, as a matter of course. Some studies would appear to show

> > >>> > > excellent results with much reduced proteinuria over a 6mth

> > > period.

> > >>> > >

> > >>> > > ----- At an annual appointment last month i asked the opinion of

> > > the

> > >>> > > consultant regarding this. Basically, his thoughts were that

> > > studies

> > >>> > > were inconclusive and did not consider the above treatment to be

> > >>> > > worthwhile. I started the above dosages 4 weeks ago with the

> > >>> > > intention of seeing whether or not proteinuria will decrease.

> > >>> > >

> > >>> > > 2. Obviously high blood pressure is a recognised factor in

> > >>> > > accelerating the condition and the control of this by way of an

> > > ace

> > >>> > > inhibitor, such as Enalapril, is important.

> > >>> > >

> > >>> > > ----At the same appointment, he confirmed that it was probably a

> > > good

> > >>> > > idea to start on Enalapril (5mg). My thought is to allow a

period

> > > of

> > >>> > > time, say 3 mths, in which to confirm whether or not the fish

> > >>> > > capsules are having the desired effect before starting on

> > > Enalapril.

> > >>> > >

> > >>> > > 3. Tonsillectomy would appear to stabilise or even reverse the

> > >>> > > condition in some studies.

> > >>> > >

> > >>> > > -----At the same appointment, i asked whether he would recommend

> > > this

> > >>> > > to which he replied that he was not aware of this procedure. He

> > >>> > > decided to ask a senior consultant (Ian Abbs) who apparently

> > >>> > > confirmed that this procedure might be carried out in advanced

> > >>> > > stages. My thoughts were why should one wait until the condition

> > >>> > > advances if there is evidence to show that an early

tonsillectomy

> > >>> > > would be of benefit?

> > >>> > >

> > >>> > > Any comments on the above would be extremely welcome. You will

> > >>> > > realise that my knowledge of the condition is very basic and i

> > > look

> > >>> > > forward to learning more about the condition from you all and

look

> > >>> > > forward to your responses.

> > >>> > >

> > >>> > > Happy Christmas and kind regards

> > >>> > >

> > >>> > > paul

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

The capsules might be a bit larger but the contents are also more

concentrated. My son much preferred them to the regular kind. He changed to

³6 a day² dosage (at bedtime) after the new research came out, but still

preferred just taking 3 of the double-strength. I think there may be other

companies that make a double-strength capsule, but he preferred NOW brand

because it didn¹t have as strong a fishy after-taste as some others. When

looking for double-strength, you have to check the label carefully because

some companies list double the amount of EPA and DHA because they consider 2

capsules to be the standard dosage. By the way, we bought the NOW Super EPA

at a local natural vitamin store, but I think you can order them from the

NOW website as well.

Betsy

> Betsy,

> Not that I take fish oil anyway, but just curious. I've never actually seen

> those. Are they more concentrated, or are the capsules just bigger (in which

> case you still get the same amount of oil in fewer pills)?

> Pierre

>

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>> > Yes, it is possible to get double strength fish oil capsules, then you

> only

>> > need to choke down 6 instead of 12. One brand is NOW Super EPA.

>> >

>> > Betsy

[Guest guest]

Thanks for that, Betsy.

Pierre

Re: Re: new member background info

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>

>> > Yes, it is possible to get double strength fish oil capsules, then you

> only

>> > need to choke down 6 instead of 12. One brand is NOW Super EPA.

>> >

>> > Betsy