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Derrick, or any other Aussies,

Do you have any recommendations for private pay health care cover? I

am planning to marry my fiance and move to Australia ()

sometime during this year and we will have to look for a program that

will cover me. My current kidney function is very good. I

understand that most of the groups have pre-existing condition

exclusions for some period of time, which should not be a problem

given that my health is still pretty good as long as my BP is

controlled.

I'd appreciate any advice.

Thanks,

> ,

> I am with Medibank and I too have been concerned about

the

> problems associated with Australian health insurance funds and

treatment for

> IGAN related problems. MBF, NIB, HCF and Medibank all appear to

have similar

> benefits when it comes to IGAN. The critical point appears to be

whether you

> have treatment in hospital (covered by private cover)or at a day

centre

> (covered by the government Medicare scheme). If you are with MBF I

would

> stick with them.

>

> Derrick

> Sydney, Australia

> Re: Relationships and IGA

> > >

> > >

> > > > TY!!

> > > >

> > > > I was just feeling a bit down tonight, and so wrote what I

did. Of

> > course

> > > > you are all right, and I dont normally let IGA rule my life,

but

> through

> > > > love, I just wanted to protect her from pain that might come

in the

> > > future.

> > > > Of course this is ridiculas, as I cant even imagine what the

future

> > might

> > > > bring. On the other hand, I guess it means I really do love

her. Well

> > now

> > > > thats out of the way..... lol.

> > > >

> > > > I am, as far as I know, in on of the slow progressing of IgA,

and even

> > > > though I am no math genius, I know if you add 0.01% enough

times

> you'll

> > > end

> > > > up at 100%. I dont worry to much about my future, but I wish

there was

> > > > somethiong that I could do for my loved ones.

> > > >

> > > > Reality is, I cant. Reality is, I can only live day to day. I

thank

> > those

> > > > who responded to my message. It really helped.

> > > >

> > > > Merry Christmas and all that stuff.

> > > >

> > > > Best to all

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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I currently live in , Australia, but I don't currently have

health insurance, I'm afraid, so I can't offer you any advice in that

regard, unfortunately. Hopefully, someone else will be able to.

> > ,

> > I am with Medibank and I too have been concerned

about

> the

> > problems associated with Australian health insurance funds and

> treatment for

> > IGAN related problems. MBF, NIB, HCF and Medibank all appear to

> have similar

> > benefits when it comes to IGAN. The critical point appears to be

> whether you

> > have treatment in hospital (covered by private cover)or at a day

> centre

> > (covered by the government Medicare scheme). If you are with MBF

I

> would

> > stick with them.

> >

> > Derrick

> > Sydney, Australia

> > Re: Relationships and IGA

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > TY!!

> > > > >

> > > > > I was just feeling a bit down tonight, and so wrote what I

> did. Of

> > > course

> > > > > you are all right, and I dont normally let IGA rule my

life,

> but

> > through

> > > > > love, I just wanted to protect her from pain that might

come

> in the

> > > > future.

> > > > > Of course this is ridiculas, as I cant even imagine what

the

> future

> > > might

> > > > > bring. On the other hand, I guess it means I really do love

> her. Well

> > > now

> > > > > thats out of the way..... lol.

> > > > >

> > > > > I am, as far as I know, in on of the slow progressing of

IgA,

> and even

> > > > > though I am no math genius, I know if you add 0.01% enough

> times

> > you'll

> > > > end

> > > > > up at 100%. I dont worry to much about my future, but I

wish

> there was

> > > > > somethiong that I could do for my loved ones.

> > > > >

> > > > > Reality is, I cant. Reality is, I can only live day to day.

I

> thank

> > > those

> > > > > who responded to my message. It really helped.

> > > > >

> > > > > Merry Christmas and all that stuff.

> > > > >

> > > > > Best to all

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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Im currently in Japan, and am worrying about the same thing. Sorry I am not

much help on this one either.

Re: Relationships and IGA

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > TY!!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I was just feeling a bit down tonight, and so wrote what I

> > did. Of

> > > > course

> > > > > > you are all right, and I dont normally let IGA rule my

> life,

> > but

> > > through

> > > > > > love, I just wanted to protect her from pain that might

> come

> > in the

> > > > > future.

> > > > > > Of course this is ridiculas, as I cant even imagine what

> the

> > future

> > > > might

> > > > > > bring. On the other hand, I guess it means I really do love

> > her. Well

> > > > now

> > > > > > thats out of the way..... lol.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am, as far as I know, in on of the slow progressing of

> IgA,

> > and even

> > > > > > though I am no math genius, I know if you add 0.01% enough

> > times

> > > you'll

> > > > > end

> > > > > > up at 100%. I dont worry to much about my future, but I

> wish

> > there was

> > > > > > somethiong that I could do for my loved ones.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Reality is, I cant. Reality is, I can only live day to day.

> I

> > thank

> > > > those

> > > > > > who responded to my message. It really helped.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Merry Christmas and all that stuff.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Best to all

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

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,

Sorry for the delayed response, I have been away up north on

holiday. As far as health funds are concerned, I am in a health fund,

Medibank Private. I live in NSW and there are other health funds available.

They all generally have a 12 month waiting period for pre existing

conditions. There are 2 components to the health fund, hospital benefit for

stays in a private hospital with your choice of doctor and extra benefits

which include things like dental, reading glasses, chiropractor etc. Private

health insurance is a complicated area and benefits vary from one fund to

another. Added to this is the Medicare system which is the government health

care scheme which covers everyone. The only difference here is that if you

need hospital treatment you are treated as a public patient and you cannot

(in most cases) choose your specialist. If you see a General Practitioner,

and that practitioner does not " bulk bill " , then you pay out of your own

pocket the difference between what the government allow and what the doctor

charges. This can range form zero to A$30 generally. If I visit my Neph, he

charges A$80. I can claim back $50 from Medicare, the remaining A$30, I pay

even though I have top private medical insurance. My advice is do not worry

about it yet, wait until you arrive here. If you are coming to NSW, I can

post to you a free booklet issued by the Australian Government about the

Medicare scheme explaining how it works. I think I am correct is saying that

there are reciprocal agreements between UK and Australia, an you should be

covered. I could also send a couple of booklets explaining about the private

medical schemes if it will put your mind at rest.

Derrick

Re: Relationships and IGA

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > TY!!

> > > > >

> > > > > I was just feeling a bit down tonight, and so wrote what I

> did. Of

> > > course

> > > > > you are all right, and I dont normally let IGA rule my life,

> but

> > through

> > > > > love, I just wanted to protect her from pain that might come

> in the

> > > > future.

> > > > > Of course this is ridiculas, as I cant even imagine what the

> future

> > > might

> > > > > bring. On the other hand, I guess it means I really do love

> her. Well

> > > now

> > > > > thats out of the way..... lol.

> > > > >

> > > > > I am, as far as I know, in on of the slow progressing of IgA,

> and even

> > > > > though I am no math genius, I know if you add 0.01% enough

> times

> > you'll

> > > > end

> > > > > up at 100%. I dont worry to much about my future, but I wish

> there was

> > > > > somethiong that I could do for my loved ones.

> > > > >

> > > > > Reality is, I cant. Reality is, I can only live day to day. I

> thank

> > > those

> > > > > who responded to my message. It really helped.

> > > > >

> > > > > Merry Christmas and all that stuff.

> > > > >

> > > > > Best to all

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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Thanks for responding, Derrick. I appreciate any information and

advice that I can get.

I will be living in when I do get to OZ and I think I will

just have my fiance research the plans in the area and choose one

that seems reasonable. I definitely need good private cover because

as an immigrant, I will not be eligible for medicare for 2 years

until I get my permanent visa (I am a US citizen so there is no

reciprocity). There will be a 12 month pre-existing coverage clause,

but that should not matter too much because my condition is really

quite good.

Again, thanks. I know it will all work out.

> > > ,

> > > I am with Medibank and I too have been concerned

about

> > the

> > > problems associated with Australian health insurance funds and

> > treatment for

> > > IGAN related problems. MBF, NIB, HCF and Medibank all appear to

> > have similar

> > > benefits when it comes to IGAN. The critical point appears to be

> > whether you

> > > have treatment in hospital (covered by private cover)or at a day

> > centre

> > > (covered by the government Medicare scheme). If you are with

MBF I

> > would

> > > stick with them.

> > >

> > > Derrick

> > > Sydney, Australia

> > > Re: Relationships and IGA

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > TY!!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I was just feeling a bit down tonight, and so wrote what I

> > did. Of

> > > > course

> > > > > > you are all right, and I dont normally let IGA rule my

life,

> > but

> > > through

> > > > > > love, I just wanted to protect her from pain that might

come

> > in the

> > > > > future.

> > > > > > Of course this is ridiculas, as I cant even imagine what

the

> > future

> > > > might

> > > > > > bring. On the other hand, I guess it means I really do

love

> > her. Well

> > > > now

> > > > > > thats out of the way..... lol.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am, as far as I know, in on of the slow progressing of

IgA,

> > and even

> > > > > > though I am no math genius, I know if you add 0.01% enough

> > times

> > > you'll

> > > > > end

> > > > > > up at 100%. I dont worry to much about my future, but I

wish

> > there was

> > > > > > somethiong that I could do for my loved ones.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Reality is, I cant. Reality is, I can only live day to

day. I

> > thank

> > > > those

> > > > > > who responded to my message. It really helped.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Merry Christmas and all that stuff.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Best to all

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

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Derrick,

Your reply below would be an excellent basis for a permanent file on Aussie

health care in our Files section. If you want to write it up or modify it as

you see fit, with your name on it as the author, you could either upload it

to the Files section yourself, or email it to me for uploading. Ultimately,

it needs to be in html format so members can open it and read it with just

their normal browser.

Pierre

Re: Aussie health care

> ,

> Sorry for the delayed response, I have been away up north on

> holiday. As far as health funds are concerned, I am in a health fund,

> Medibank Private. I live in NSW and there are other health funds

available.

> They all generally have a 12 month waiting period for pre existing

> conditions. There are 2 components to the health fund, hospital benefit

for

> stays in a private hospital with your choice of doctor and extra benefits

> which include things like dental, reading glasses, chiropractor etc.

Private

> health insurance is a complicated area and benefits vary from one fund to

> another. Added to this is the Medicare system which is the government

health

> care scheme which covers everyone. The only difference here is that if you

> need hospital treatment you are treated as a public patient and you cannot

> (in most cases) choose your specialist. If you see a General Practitioner,

> and that practitioner does not " bulk bill " , then you pay out of your own

> pocket the difference between what the government allow and what the

doctor

> charges. This can range form zero to A$30 generally. If I visit my Neph,

he

> charges A$80. I can claim back $50 from Medicare, the remaining A$30, I

pay

> even though I have top private medical insurance. My advice is do not

worry

> about it yet, wait until you arrive here. If you are coming to NSW, I can

> post to you a free booklet issued by the Australian Government about the

> Medicare scheme explaining how it works. I think I am correct is saying

that

> there are reciprocal agreements between UK and Australia, an you should be

> covered. I could also send a couple of booklets explaining about the

private

> medical schemes if it will put your mind at rest.

>

> Derrick

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I live in and i don't have private health cover.....it costs sooooo

much ! I find i don't need it anyway, but i do live in the country not the city.

I had the choice of which neph i could see but the closest is a 3 hour drive

away in Melbourne, and she bulk bills, so it cost me nothing at all to see her.

But it costs me around $100 au by the time i pay for petrol and parking the car

in the city! If you go private sometimes they don't cover everything like they

do through medicare (it really sucks).

Eg: When i had my children i was admitted as a medicare patient and it didn't

cost me a thing and with my second child i had a room to myself with it's own

toilet and shower. My friend who had one of her children 5 weeks apart from me,

went in as a private patient and it ended up costing her around $300 and she had

to share a room because the 2 private one's where taken!

It's something i would really look into before committing yourself to..... well

after the two years are up where you said you have to go private.

kaz

Re: Relationships and IGA

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > TY!!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I was just feeling a bit down tonight, and so wrote what I

> > did. Of

> > > > course

> > > > > > you are all right, and I dont normally let IGA rule my

life,

> > but

> > > through

> > > > > > love, I just wanted to protect her from pain that might

come

> > in the

> > > > > future.

> > > > > > Of course this is ridiculas, as I cant even imagine what

the

> > future

> > > > might

> > > > > > bring. On the other hand, I guess it means I really do

love

> > her. Well

> > > > now

> > > > > > thats out of the way..... lol.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am, as far as I know, in on of the slow progressing of

IgA,

> > and even

> > > > > > though I am no math genius, I know if you add 0.01% enough

> > times

> > > you'll

> > > > > end

> > > > > > up at 100%. I dont worry to much about my future, but I

wish

> > there was

> > > > > > somethiong that I could do for my loved ones.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Reality is, I cant. Reality is, I can only live day to

day. I

> > thank

> > > > those

> > > > > > who responded to my message. It really helped.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Merry Christmas and all that stuff.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Best to all

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

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Pierre,

I do not mind who uses it or how it is used, do as you see fit.

However, I have since looked at a couple of web sites and they may be of

more use in the files section for members of our group:

Information on the Australian National Medicare scheme (where every

Australian Resident is covered) can be found at www.hic.gov.au

This web site has information on reciprocal health care arrangements for

visitors from the following countries: Ireland, UK, Sweden, Netherlands,

Finland, Malta and Italy. It also has download information kits to help

prospective migrants in several languages other than English viz.

Chinese (Mandarin), Croation,Greek, Indonesian,Italian, Macedonian, Serbian,

Spanish and Vietnamese.

For private medical insurance I have listed a few of the major ones:

www.medibankprivate.com.au

www.hcf.com.au

www.nibcom.au

www.mbf.com.au

The advantage of having the web site address is that if things change, then

people can get comprehensive up to date information and not rely on my fact

finding skills.

Derrick

Sydney, Australia

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>

>

> > ,

> > Sorry for the delayed response, I have been away up north on

> > holiday. As far as health funds are concerned, I am in a health fund,

> > Medibank Private. I live in NSW and there are other health funds

> available.

> > They all generally have a 12 month waiting period for pre existing

> > conditions. There are 2 components to the health fund, hospital benefit

> for

> > stays in a private hospital with your choice of doctor and extra

benefits

> > which include things like dental, reading glasses, chiropractor etc.

> Private

> > health insurance is a complicated area and benefits vary from one fund

to

> > another. Added to this is the Medicare system which is the government

> health

> > care scheme which covers everyone. The only difference here is that if

you

> > need hospital treatment you are treated as a public patient and you

cannot

> > (in most cases) choose your specialist. If you see a General

Practitioner,

> > and that practitioner does not " bulk bill " , then you pay out of your own

> > pocket the difference between what the government allow and what the

> doctor

> > charges. This can range form zero to A$30 generally. If I visit my Neph,

> he

> > charges A$80. I can claim back $50 from Medicare, the remaining A$30, I

> pay

> > even though I have top private medical insurance. My advice is do not

> worry

> > about it yet, wait until you arrive here. If you are coming to NSW, I

can

> > post to you a free booklet issued by the Australian Government about the

> > Medicare scheme explaining how it works. I think I am correct is saying

> that

> > there are reciprocal agreements between UK and Australia, an you should

be

> > covered. I could also send a couple of booklets explaining about the

> private

> > medical schemes if it will put your mind at rest.

> >

> > Derrick

>

>

>

>

>

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Thanks. I'll put those links in the Bookmarks.

Pierre

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> >

> >

> > > ,

> > > Sorry for the delayed response, I have been away up north

on

> > > holiday. As far as health funds are concerned, I am in a health fund,

> > > Medibank Private. I live in NSW and there are other health funds

> > available.

> > > They all generally have a 12 month waiting period for pre existing

> > > conditions. There are 2 components to the health fund, hospital

benefit

> > for

> > > stays in a private hospital with your choice of doctor and extra

> benefits

> > > which include things like dental, reading glasses, chiropractor etc.

> > Private

> > > health insurance is a complicated area and benefits vary from one fund

> to

> > > another. Added to this is the Medicare system which is the government

> > health

> > > care scheme which covers everyone. The only difference here is that if

> you

> > > need hospital treatment you are treated as a public patient and you

> cannot

> > > (in most cases) choose your specialist. If you see a General

> Practitioner,

> > > and that practitioner does not " bulk bill " , then you pay out of your

own

> > > pocket the difference between what the government allow and what the

> > doctor

> > > charges. This can range form zero to A$30 generally. If I visit my

Neph,

> > he

> > > charges A$80. I can claim back $50 from Medicare, the remaining A$30,

I

> > pay

> > > even though I have top private medical insurance. My advice is do not

> > worry

> > > about it yet, wait until you arrive here. If you are coming to NSW, I

> can

> > > post to you a free booklet issued by the Australian Government about

the

> > > Medicare scheme explaining how it works. I think I am correct is

saying

> > that

> > > there are reciprocal agreements between UK and Australia, an you

should

> be

> > > covered. I could also send a couple of booklets explaining about the

> > private

> > > medical schemes if it will put your mind at rest.

> > >

> > > Derrick

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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