Guest guest Posted September 15, 2009 Report Share Posted September 15, 2009 Are you using probiotics? Space dosing away from antibiotics. Pamela From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On Behalf Of christyfking Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:05 AM To: mb12 valtrex Subject: Yeasty! My son, Hayden, 3 y/o, has been on 3 different antibiotics for a bad sinus infection since August 9th. Vantin, Aug ES, and Bactrim. We finished the last dose on Sat night. Obviously, he is now very yeasty acting. He is very whiny, not sleeping well, mouthing things, seems spacey, and still has his sinus infection...ughhhh. So, I just called my DAN doctor to request a RX for diflucan. Anything else anyone can think of to help? Maybe bumping up his GSE. He is on 8 drops 2 x day now. Oh, and I forgot to mention he had a very faint rash on his torso, back, buttocks and face sunday night and monday and was gone by this morning. Any advice would be much appreciated. BTW, as of right now, my son has not been diagnosed with autism but has moderate sensory integration disorder. Thank you so much in advance, Christy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2009 Report Share Posted September 15, 2009 Yes, Klaire labs detox support....at night. I bumped it up while on antibx to 2 x a day....i will try to space away from antibx...how long shall I try to space it? Is 30 minutes enough or longer?To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 1:51:50 PMSubject: RE: Yeasty! Are you using probiotics? Space dosing away from antibiotics. Pamela From: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:mb12 valtrex @yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of christyfking Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:05 AM To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Yeasty! My son, Hayden, 3 y/o, has been on 3 different antibiotics for a bad sinus infection since August 9th. Vantin, Aug ES, and Bactrim. We finished the last dose on Sat night. Obviously, he is now very yeasty acting. He is very whiny, not sleeping well, mouthing things, seems spacey, and still has his sinus infection... ughhhh. So, I just called my DAN doctor to request a RX for diflucan. Anything else anyone can think of to help? Maybe bumping up his GSE. He is on 8 drops 2 x day now. Oh, and I forgot to mention he had a very faint rash on his torso, back, buttocks and face sunday night and monday and was gone by this morning. Any advice would be much appreciated. BTW, as of right now, my son has not been diagnosed with autism but has moderate sensory integration disorder. Thank you so much in advance, Christy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2009 Report Share Posted September 15, 2009 Oreganol p73 and Xlear nasal wash especially @ bedtime. Subject: Re: Yeasty!To: mb12 valtrex Date: Tuesday, September 15, 2009, 2:31 PM Yes, Klaire labs detox support....at night. I bumped it up while on antibx to 2 x a day....i will try to space away from antibx...how long shall I try to space it? Is 30 minutes enough or longer? From: Pamela P <pamelaleigh99@ verizon.net>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 1:51:50 PMSubject: RE: Yeasty! Are you using probiotics? Space dosing away from antibiotics. Pamela From: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:mb12 valtrex @yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of christyfkingSent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:05 AMTo: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSubject: Yeasty! My son, Hayden, 3 y/o, has been on 3 different antibiotics for a bad sinus infection since August 9th. Vantin, Aug ES, and Bactrim. We finished the last dose on Sat night. Obviously, he is now very yeasty acting. He is very whiny, not sleeping well, mouthing things, seems spacey, and still has his sinus infection... ughhhh. So, I just called my DAN doctor to request a RX for diflucan. Anything else anyone can think of to help? Maybe bumping up his GSE. He is on 8 drops 2 x day now. Oh, and I forgot to mention he had a very faint rash on his torso, back, buttocks and face sunday night and monday and was gone by this morning. Any advice would be much appreciated. BTW, as of right now, my son has not been diagnosed with autism but has moderate sensory integration disorder. Thank you so much in advance,Christy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2009 Report Share Posted September 15, 2009 antibiotics and probiotics should be spaced out at least 2 hours apart. Subject: Re: Yeasty!To: mb12 valtrex Date: Tuesday, September 15, 2009, 7:31 PM Yes, Klaire labs detox support....at night. I bumped it up while on antibx to 2 x a day....i will try to space away from antibx...how long shall I try to space it? Is 30 minutes enough or longer? From: Pamela P <pamelaleigh99@ verizon.net>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 1:51:50 PMSubject: RE: Yeasty! Are you using probiotics? Space dosing away from antibiotics. Pamela From: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:mb12 valtrex @yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of christyfkingSent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:05 AMTo: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSubject: Yeasty! My son, Hayden, 3 y/o, has been on 3 different antibiotics for a bad sinus infection since August 9th. Vantin, Aug ES, and Bactrim. We finished the last dose on Sat night. Obviously, he is now very yeasty acting. He is very whiny, not sleeping well, mouthing things, seems spacey, and still has his sinus infection... ughhhh. So, I just called my DAN doctor to request a RX for diflucan. Anything else anyone can think of to help? Maybe bumping up his GSE. He is on 8 drops 2 x day now. Oh, and I forgot to mention he had a very faint rash on his torso, back, buttocks and face sunday night and monday and was gone by this morning. Any advice would be much appreciated. BTW, as of right now, my son has not been diagnosed with autism but has moderate sensory integration disorder. Thank you so much in advance,Christy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 Probiotics need to be at least 2 hour away from anti biotics lisa > > Yes, Klaire labs detox support....at night. I bumped it up while on antibx to 2 x a day....i will try to space away from antibx...how long shall I try to space it? Is 30 minutes enough or longer? > > > > > ________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 I am now in a second day of severe yeast symptoms,bowel and rash,either a flare or a die off.The first day,triggered a day of head banging,and severe stimming.I am thinking of trying thishttp://www.ourkidsasd.com/products/yeastsupport/3205|Candidase-EnzymedicaAnybody tried it ?Could somebody tell me why yeast causes autism to get worse ? Subject: Yeasty!To: mb12 valtrex Date: Tuesday, September 15, 2009, 8:05 AM My son, Hayden, 3 y/o, has been on 3 different antibiotics for a bad sinus infection since August 9th. Vantin, Aug ES, and Bactrim. We finished the last dose on Sat night. Obviously, he is now very yeasty acting. He is very whiny, not sleeping well, mouthing things, seems spacey, and still has his sinus infection... ughhhh. So, I just called my DAN doctor to request a RX for diflucan. Anything else anyone can think of to help? Maybe bumping up his GSE. He is on 8 drops 2 x day now. Oh, and I forgot to mention he had a very faint rash on his torso, back, buttocks and face sunday night and monday and was gone by this morning. Any advice would be much appreciated. BTW, as of right now, my son has not been diagnosed with autism but has moderate sensory integration disorder. Thank you so much in advance, Christy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 Hi , we've not used Candidase however I did find this explanation about yeast/autism behaviors: Why Autism May Be Yeast Connected There appear to be several mechanisms. One of these appears to be the direct effect of candida toxins on the brain. In a report describing his studies on concdida toxins in mice, Iwata, a Japanese mycologist, commented: "Canditoxins produced unique clinical symptoms. Immediately after ..... intravenous injection (of toxin) animals exhibited ruffled fur and unsettled behavior. Toxicity was so acute and severe that the majority of treated animals succumbed ... within 48 hours. Within 10 minutes after being given a dose of toxin, the animsl became unsettled and irraitable; had congestion of the cunjunctiva, ears and ohter parts of the body and finally developed paralysis of the extremities." In a paper published in another journal describing his research studies on mice, Iwata commented: "When infected into uninfected mice, Canditoxin exerted toxic manifestations in spleen lymphoid cells... This indicates the possibility that .... the toxin produced in the invaded tissues may act as an immuniosuppressant to impair host defense mechanisms involving cellular immunity." A second way Candida may be related to autism is through the disturbance of the normal balance of microorganisms in the intestinal tract. When this occurs, the protective membrane lining the intestines is weakened. As a results, food allergens are absorbed and this may cause adverse reactions in the nervous system. From: christyfking <christyfking@ yahoo.com>Subject: Yeasty!To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comDate: Tuesday, September 15, 2009, 8:05 AM My son, Hayden, 3 y/o, has been on 3 different antibiotics for a bad sinus infection since August 9th. Vantin, Aug ES, and Bactrim. We finished the last dose on Sat night. Obviously, he is now very yeasty acting. He is very whiny, not sleeping well, mouthing things, seems spacey, and still has his sinus infection... ughhhh. So, I just called my DAN doctor to request a RX for diflucan. Anything else anyone can think of to help? Maybe bumping up his GSE. He is on 8 drops 2 x day now. Oh, and I forgot to mention he had a very faint rash on his torso, back, buttocks and face sunday night and monday and was gone by this morning. Any advice would be much appreciated. BTW, as of right now, my son has not been diagnosed with autism but has moderate sensory integration disorder. Thank you so much in advance,Christy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 What are you taking now for the yeast? Yeasty! To: mb12 valtrex Date: Tuesday, September 15, 2009, 8:05 AM My son, Hayden, 3 y/o, has been on 3 different antibiotics for a bad sinus infection since August 9th. Vantin, Aug ES, and Bactrim. We finished the last dose on Sat night. Obviously, he is now very yeasty acting. He is very whiny, not sleeping well, mouthing things, seems spacey, and still has his sinus infection... ughhhh. So, I just called my DAN doctor to request a RX for diflucan. Anything else anyone can think of to help? Maybe bumping up his GSE. He is on 8 drops 2 x day now. Oh, and I forgot to mention he had a very faint rash on his torso, back, buttocks and face sunday night and monday and was gone by this morning. Any advice would be much appreciated. BTW, as of right now, my son has not been diagnosed with autism but has moderate sensory integration disorder. Thank you so much in advance, Christy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 You could try s. boulardii. http://www.kirkmanlabs.com/SiteSearchResult.aspx?strSiteSearch=saccharomyces It's a " good yeast " that goes after the bad yeast. Don't take GSE or other antifungals at the same time, or it defeats the purpose. The antifungals do not differentiate between good and bad yeast and will kill them both. We are just finishing a very successful trial of s.boulardii. We used Dr. Baker's protocol and got up to 9/day. My son has seemed NT for most of the trial. Nanci > > My son, Hayden, 3 y/o, has been on 3 different antibiotics for a bad sinus infection since August 9th. Vantin, Aug ES, and Bactrim. We finished the last dose on Sat night. Obviously, he is now very yeasty acting. He is very whiny, not sleeping well, mouthing things, seems spacey, and still has his sinus infection...ughhhh. So, I just called my DAN doctor to request a RX for diflucan. Anything else anyone can think of to help? Maybe bumping up his GSE. He is on 8 drops 2 x day now. Oh, and I forgot to mention he had a very faint rash on his torso, back, buttocks and face sunday night and monday and was gone by this morning. > > Any advice would be much appreciated. BTW, as of right now, my son has not been diagnosed with autism but has moderate sensory integration disorder. > > Thank you so much in advance, > Christy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 Currently nothing.Probably why my symptoms are so severe.I am trying to figure out what to use. From: christyfking <christyfking@ yahoo.com> Subject: Yeasty! To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com Date: Tuesday, September 15, 2009, 8:05 AM My son, Hayden, 3 y/o, has been on 3 different antibiotics for a bad sinus infection since August 9th. Vantin, Aug ES, and Bactrim. We finished the last dose on Sat night. Obviously, he is now very yeasty acting. He is very whiny, not sleeping well, mouthing things, seems spacey, and still has his sinus infection... ughhhh. So, I just called my DAN doctor to request a RX for diflucan. Anything else anyone can think of to help? Maybe bumping up his GSE. He is on 8 drops 2 x day now. Oh, and I forgot to mention he had a very faint rash on his torso, back, buttocks and face sunday night and monday and was gone by this morning. Any advice would be much appreciated. BTW, as of right now, my son has not been diagnosed with autism but has moderate sensory integration disorder. Thank you so much in advance, Christy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 Nanci What is Dr. Baker's protocol? My son's yeast has flared up too and I am trying to GSE, but it hasn't helped much. I am interested in S. Boulardii. - Angay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2009 Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 If you're using GSE, S. Boulardii should be on board. What happens is that when you use antifungals and antibiotics it causes the yeast to flare. So once you dose GSE, 2-3 hours after you should be administering a probiotic such as Culturelle, S. Boul., Ther-biotic Detox Support (Klaire Labs), Ther-biotic Complete Powder, L. Acidophilus, etc., or whichever you choose because the probiotics are going to replace the good bacteria that is lost whe usin antifungals and antivirals. Using them in rotating order is recommended. -Valencia To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 12:49:47 AMSubject: Re: Yeasty! NanciWhat is Dr. Baker's protocol? My son's yeast has flared up too and I am trying to GSE, but it hasn't helped much. I am interested in S. Boulardii.- Angay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2009 Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 should i use the oreganol p73 along with the GSE or instead of?To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 6:37:49 PMSubject: Re: Yeasty! Oreganol p73 and Xlear nasal wash especially @ bedtime. From: Christy King <christyfking@ yahoo.com>Subject: Re: Yeasty!To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comDate: Tuesday, September 15, 2009, 2:31 PM Yes, Klaire labs detox support....at night. I bumped it up while on antibx to 2 x a day....i will try to space away from antibx...how long shall I try to space it? Is 30 minutes enough or longer? From: Pamela P <pamelaleigh99@ verizon.net>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 1:51:50 PMSubject: RE: Yeasty! Are you using probiotics? Space dosing away from antibiotics. Pamela From: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:mb12 valtrex @yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of christyfkingSent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:05 AMTo: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSubject: Yeasty! My son, Hayden, 3 y/o, has been on 3 different antibiotics for a bad sinus infection since August 9th. Vantin, Aug ES, and Bactrim. We finished the last dose on Sat night. Obviously, he is now very yeasty acting. He is very whiny, not sleeping well, mouthing things, seems spacey, and still has his sinus infection... ughhhh. So, I just called my DAN doctor to request a RX for diflucan. Anything else anyone can think of to help? Maybe bumping up his GSE. He is on 8 drops 2 x day now. Oh, and I forgot to mention he had a very faint rash on his torso, back, buttocks and face sunday night and monday and was gone by this morning. Any advice would be much appreciated. BTW, as of right now, my son has not been diagnosed with autism but has moderate sensory integration disorder. Thank you so much in advance,Christy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2009 Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 I use Oil of Oregano - you can buy it at the vitamin store. I think it works really well- I can tell the diff if he isn't taking it. His lips get kind of cracked and he plays with them sometimes till they bleed a little. Generally in a day or two it stops when he is getting the OoO He is about 50lbs and I give him 4 drops. FL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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