Re: Movies that I love but make me cringe

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Hi,

I can't think of any movies right off the top of my head, but I was watching

Friends last night, like the third episode or something. It's the one where

and Ross's parents come over for dinner, and they just keep barraging

with everything that she's " doing wrong " or whatever, and she keeps

saying, " Ross, don't you have something to talk about? " Well, finally, Ross

tells his parents that the reason he and his wife divorced is because she's a

lesbian, and now she's pregnant with his child. And the mom looks at and

says, " And you knew about this? "

It just reminded me so much of nada. Even my husband looked at me and said, " Ha

ha, remind you of anyone? "

Movies that I love but make me cringe

So here I am with HBO on watching Because I Said So and I remember the first

time I saw it I

thought it reminded me of my life.

Also The Upside of Anger, I rented it with a friend who really understands what

is going on

with me and my mom and 20 minutes in she looked and me and said, if you want we

can

shut this off.

I can't think of anymore right now but I know there are tons!

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Let's not forget Mommy Dearest

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White Oleander rips my heart into a thousand pieces, but helps me

mourn and face what my nada really is and what she did...

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> Let's not forget Mommy Dearest

>

[Guest guest]

I remember that episode well. For me, it was not at all funny. Just

made me sick!

>

> Hi,

>

> I can't think of any movies right off the top of my head, but I was

watching Friends last night, like the third episode or something. It's

the one where and Ross's parents come over for dinner, and they

just keep barraging with everything that she's " doing wrong " or

whatever, and she keeps saying, " Ross, don't you have something to

talk about? " Well, finally, Ross tells his parents that the reason he

and his wife divorced is because she's a lesbian, and now she's

pregnant with his child. And the mom looks at and says, " And

you knew about this? "

>

> It just reminded me so much of nada. Even my husband looked at me

and said, " Ha ha, remind you of anyone? "

>

>

>

>

> Movies that I love but make me cringe

>

> So here I am with HBO on watching Because I Said So and I remember

the first time I saw it I

> thought it reminded me of my life.

>

> Also The Upside of Anger, I rented it with a friend who really

understands what is going on

> with me and my mom and 20 minutes in she looked and me and said, if

you want we can

> shut this off.

>

> I can't think of anymore right now but I know there are tons!

>

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[Guest guest]

Now Voyager with Betty . The scene where she stands up to her mother & her

mom is tearing into her, calling her selfish, etc, then the mom has a heart

attack, is chilling....a weeper for sure.

Re: Movies that I love but make me cringe

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For me it's " Divine Secrets of the Ya Ya Sisterhood " . I just sobbed

and sobbed when I watched it. I found out later that my middle sister

had also. My baby sister won't get near the movie - we call her

the " Queen of Denial " .

My nada would come get me out of school on the excuse that I had a

doctor's appointment but she'd take me out to a restaurant instead.

The highs were high but the lows were really bad. To hear her talk she

was a wonderful mother and I always wondered why I didn't feel the same

way. Must have been something wrong with me.

Thank you all for the stories and help you give - at 49 I'm finally

beginning to understand so much!

>

> So here I am with HBO on watching Because I Said So and I remember

the first time I saw it I

> thought it reminded me of my life.

>

> Also The Upside of Anger, I rented it with a friend who really

understands what is going on

> with me and my mom and 20 minutes in she looked and me and said, if

you want we can

> shut this off.

>

> I can't think of anymore right now but I know there are tons!

>

[Guest guest]

I'm curious (you don't have to answer) - what part of " Because I Said

So " reminded you of your life?

Thanks!

>

> So here I am with HBO on watching Because I Said So and I remember

the first time I saw it I

> thought it reminded me of my life.

>

> Also The Upside of Anger, I rented it with a friend who really

understands what is going on

> with me and my mom and 20 minutes in she looked and me and said, if

you want we can

> shut this off.

>

> I can't think of anymore right now but I know there are tons!

>

[Guest guest]

I grew up in a single mother household and the mother younger daughter

relationship is

almost exactly like mine. My mother would and has gone behind my back to try

and get

someone to start a relationship with me. My mom if she every wants to buy me

something

when we are shopping it has to be something she likes not something I like. My

mom

tries to sabatoge relationships with people that she doesn't feel are

appropriate. And

most of all the title, If I heard it once I heard it 1000X.

I am sure there is more, but I can't remember, I only saw it twice

> >

> > So here I am with HBO on watching Because I Said So and I remember

> the first time I saw it I

> > thought it reminded me of my life.

> >

> > Also The Upside of Anger, I rented it with a friend who really

> understands what is going on

> > with me and my mom and 20 minutes in she looked and me and said, if

> you want we can

> > shut this off.

> >

> > I can't think of anymore right now but I know there are tons!

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Speaking of Bette and Joan Crawford,has anyone here

seen " Whatever Happened to Baby Jane " ?.That movie really makes me

cringe.I never really want to watch it,but if I start to,I get sucked

in and can't turn it off.Bette plays the part of a child

actress who never grew up/BPD type and Joan Crawford is her

sister/victim who is wheelchair bound after ' " Baby Jane "

character maliciously hits her with her car to end her hopes of a

stage career...That one might just be the creepiest film I've ever

seen as a KO...Bette has been in some weird movies,she's

actually very good at playing downright weird-she was also in " The

Nanny " ,about a little boy who keeps telling everyone his nanny (Bette

) is vicious and a killer and nobody believes him,everyone

thinks he's the crazy one,until " the nanny " exposes herself by her

behavior...two very weird cringe-worthy films but I couldn't say that

I love them!

>

> Now Voyager with Betty . The scene where she stands up to her

mother & her mom is tearing into her, calling her selfish, etc, then

the mom has a heart attack, is chilling....a weeper for sure.

>

>

> Re: Movies that I love but make me

cringe

>

> Let's not forget Mommy Dearest

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[Guest guest]

Yes, I've seen it! Very disturbing! is excellent as a BPD, too good, if

you ask me. I saw a documentary on her recently & it sounds like she really was,

from the descriptions of those who knew her (impulsive, self destructive

affairs, alcoholic, violent, etc...) I still enjoy her films though...

Re: Movies that I love but make me

cringe

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> Let's not forget Mommy Dearest

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[Guest guest]

I apologize for not replying sooner. I appreciate your response. My

nada wants me to see this and I was curious about your opionion of

the movie. I appreciate your comments.

> > >

> > > So here I am with HBO on watching Because I Said So and I

remember

> > the first time I saw it I

> > > thought it reminded me of my life.

> > >

> > > Also The Upside of Anger, I rented it with a friend who really

> > understands what is going on

> > > with me and my mom and 20 minutes in she looked and me and

said, if

> > you want we can

> > > shut this off.

> > >

> > > I can't think of anymore right now but I know there are tons!

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I just watched monster-inlaw for the first time this last

weekend....although it was funny......it was scary too. Makes me

feel for us KO's daughter inlaws!!! I have a good one so I too am

lucky.

I love Jane Fonda......and she was perfect for this part.

drlingirl

> > > >

> > > > So here I am with HBO on watching Because I Said So and I

> remember

> > > the first time I saw it I

> > > > thought it reminded me of my life.

> > > >

> > > > Also The Upside of Anger, I rented it with a friend who

really

> > > understands what is going on

> > > > with me and my mom and 20 minutes in she looked and me and

> said, if

> > > you want we can

> > > > shut this off.

> > > >

> > > > I can't think of anymore right now but I know there are tons!

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

i feel weird watching " the royal tenenbaums. " it just doesn't seem as

funny to me as it does to everyone else. actually, in parts, it's

freaking depressing as hell. but i do like it.

>

> So here I am with HBO on watching Because I Said So and I remember

the first time I saw it I

> thought it reminded me of my life.

>

> Also The Upside of Anger, I rented it with a friend who really

understands what is going on

> with me and my mom and 20 minutes in she looked and me and said, if

you want we can

> shut this off.

>

> I can't think of anymore right now but I know there are tons!

>

[Guest guest]

I found that movie to be not funny at all.

>

> i feel weird watching " the royal tenenbaums. " it just doesn't seem as

> funny to me as it does to everyone else. actually, in parts, it's

> freaking depressing as hell. but i do like it.

[Guest guest]

" Friends " : 's relationship with her mom.

" Everbody Loves " : obvious.

" I'll Cry Tomorrow " : Hayward movie.

" Because I Said So " : Diane Keaton.

" One True Thing " : Totally my mom when she's acting " normal "

" Psycho " : Soooo creepy.

" Mommie Dearest " : Its weird, because my mom rarely behaved this

bad, BUT she made me feel this bad. Make sense?

" Disney's Cinderella " : The Stepmother.

" Manchurian Candidate " : This mother brainwashes her son, and baby

coddles him...kinda the way my mom does, its too creepy.

" Summer Place " : A classic with Dee in it. The way her mother

treats her in this movie reminds me EXACTLY of my mom. Its gross!

XOXO EVERYONE!

Bernadette

[Guest guest]

I DON'T love these movies but they did make me cringe:

1. Sherry Baby. I had to turn it off in the middle. My nada wasn't a low

functioning one,

nor did she have a drug problem, but the Sherry character's clinging to her

daughter and

wanting so bad to pretend to be a 'real' mother just made me squirm. It was

awful. A very

well done movie I could not bear to see.

2. Monster in law. I did watch the whole thing, but with little enjoyment.

and of course Everybody Loves , here here!

>

>

> " Friends " : 's relationship with her mom.

>

> " Everbody Loves " : obvious.

>

> " I'll Cry Tomorrow " : Hayward movie.

>

> " Because I Said So " : Diane Keaton.

>

> " One True Thing " : Totally my mom when she's acting " normal "

>

> " Psycho " : Soooo creepy.

>

> " Mommie Dearest " : Its weird, because my mom rarely behaved this

> bad, BUT she made me feel this bad. Make sense?

>

> " Disney's Cinderella " : The Stepmother.

>

> " Manchurian Candidate " : This mother brainwashes her son, and baby

> coddles him...kinda the way my mom does, its too creepy.

>

>

> " Summer Place " : A classic with Dee in it. The way her mother

> treats her in this movie reminds me EXACTLY of my mom. Its gross!

>

>

>

>

> XOXO EVERYONE!

> Bernadette

>

[Guest guest]

White Oleander. My smother wasn't quite as much of an ice queen as

Pfiffer's character but she is an artist too and personality

wise they are close enough that this movie gives me the heebee

jeebees every time I see it. The book is even more chilling.

LJ

[Guest guest]

The movie that makes me shiver is Mommy Dearest. The rage is soooo familiar !!

K

To: WTOAdultChildren1@...: marionetta@...: Thu, 20

Dec 2007 09:08:40 -0500Subject: Re: Movies that I love but

make me cringe

White Oleander. My smother wasn't quite as much of an ice queen as

Pfiffer's character but she is an artist too and personality wise they are close

enough that this movie gives me the heebee jeebees every time I see it. The book

is even more chilling.LJ

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Nada once raged at me and sis over wire hangers. I saw that movie a few years

later and it really creeped me out. She said almost the exact same things! I

don't think she saw the irony... or the movie for that matter.

To this day a friend who I've known since junior high says " No more wire

hangers! " everytime I mention nada.

Jae

Re: Movies that I love but

make me cringe

White Oleander. My smother wasn't quite as much of an ice queen as

Pfiffer's character but she is an artist too and personality wise they are close

enough that this movie gives me the heebee jeebees every time I see it. The book

is even more chilling.LJ

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> To: wtoadultchildren1 > Date:

Thu, 20 Dec 2007 11:04:01 -0500> Subject: RE: Re: Movies

that I love but make me cringe> > > Yes, that movie totally creeped me out too.

I can remember countless rages she would go into, for no purpose. One time

several months after my first child was born (back in 1987), one night Nada came

over to watch baby while I went out for several hours. When I got back home she

tore into me, one side and down the other, about how " this baby is starving, I

heard her belly growling, " and how " breastfeeding is from the olden days when

women didn't work and were with their babies all the time, it's wrong to

breastfeed in this day and age. " She went on and on about how I was starving my

daughter, all because I chose to breastfeed and she bottle fed all of us (which

the doctor and hospital advised me to do, by the way, to breastfeed, plus the

baby had plenty of wet diapers and was gaining weight. And never mind all the

medical facts known about how breastfeeding is actually BETTER for the baby than

bottle feeding formula, they pick up immunities from breast milk, it is better

for them, you bond better with your baby, etc.). She just went on and on, in a

total tirade, about how I was starving my baby and saying things like, " It's

your baby, not mine " and " I heard her belly growl - she is starving. "

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I don't know what year Mommy Dearest came out but I remember hearing

about it a lot when I was about middle school age. I had not seen the

movie myself but from the talk , I knew it was about a crazy Mom that

was very mean to her children or daughter. One day I thought it would

be a funny joke to call my Nada " Mommy Dearest " I was kidding around

and I think I answered one of her questions with " Yes, Mommy dearest "

Well, Oh my GAWD! I think my Nada's head spun around about 3 or 4 times

, her eyes bulged from the sockets with red veins popping out, her voice

turned low and evil....seriously she looked like she had instantly

become possessed by the devil. She screamed at me in that deep raspy

voice NOT TO EVER CALL HER THAT AGAIN, OR SHE WILL REALLY SHOW ME WHAT

MOMMIE DEAREST REALLY IS. Not that she even thought for one second

about the fact that I had not seen the movie and that I didn't really

know what I was saying. Many years later when I finally saw the movie,

of coarse I was chilled to the bone at how the personality type and my

feelings were the same. She never hit me or did anything physical to me

like in the movie but our relationship was so much like the movie. I

wondered why my Nada freaked so bad when I said that, (Did she know she

was like that?, obviously she did) I always thought she didn't know

somehow, that she was mentally unable to be aware of how awful she

really was. I guess deep down she knew and actually, even though I

hadn't seen the movie back then, I knew too. DeeDee

>

>

> The movie that makes me shiver is Mommy Dearest. The rage is soooo

familiar !!

>

> K

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> To: WTOAdultChildren1@...: marionetta@...: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 09:08:40

-0500Subject: Re: Movies that I love but make me

cringe

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>

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> White Oleander. My smother wasn't quite as much of an ice queen as

Pfiffer's character but she is an artist too and personality

wise they are close enough that this movie gives me the heebee jeebees

every time I see it. The book is even more chilling.LJ

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[Guest guest]

I just saw Georgia Rules with Jane Fonda et al. Was interesting but far from

realistic. What

do you expect this is Hollywoods version of dyfuntional reality, right?

Other fav's...Divine Secrets of the Ya Ya Sisterhood. Best line was where

Bullocks

character quips something about not being a good writer were it not for her

dysfunctional

upbringing. (Really should bring that one back from nada's house, LOL)

One of my biggest defense mechanisms has been to make fun of just how crazy,

dramatic

and dysfunctional my life has been. Learning to laugh at my life and my foo's

life has been therapeutic for me. Seeing so many similar scenes played out in

movies makes me realize

that I am not alone.

xoxo Carla

[Guest guest]

I never saw the movie but I remember when the book & movie came out.

More specifically, I remember nada & fada ranting about what an

ungrateful brat Crawford was. Especially being adopted,

they said, she has no right to drag that poor woman's name through the

mud when she's dead & can't defend herself.

Too weird, now...

[Guest guest]

I had never heard of the movie Mommy Dearest until last year. One of my cousins

had

always called my nada " Auntie Dearest " I thought it was the funniest thing,

because my

nada always felt so special when she was calle that and yet the tone of voice

that my

cousin used was a little condescending. As a child I started calling my nada

Mommy

Dearest behind her back when I was mad at her to my sister or to my friends.

When I

watched the movie last year, I felt like it was the worst kind of irony... now

everytime I call

her Mommy Dearest I think about the movie and feel really guilty for having

called her that

my entire life, but also strangely honest because the scenese that

experienced in

the movie are very parallell to my experiences growing up.

> >

> >

> > The movie that makes me shiver is Mommy Dearest. The rage is soooo

> familiar !!

> >

> > K

> >

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> > To: WTOAdultChildren1@: marionetta@: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 09:08:40

> -0500Subject: Re: Movies that I love but make me

> cringe

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> > White Oleander. My smother wasn't quite as much of an ice queen as

> Pfiffer's character but she is an artist too and personality

> wise they are close enough that this movie gives me the heebee jeebees

> every time I see it. The book is even more chilling.LJ

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[Guest guest]

The movie that gets me is totally unlike all the previous ones

mentioned- " Mosquito Coast " . I couldn't believe how much on Ford's

character was like my fada!

Jen