Guest guest Posted October 5, 2004 Report Share Posted October 5, 2004 I have actually printed out the LMRP from the carrier, highlighted pertinent areas and dropped by the doctor's office for a brief review. They were impressed that I could provide a reference (vs. " those crazy PT's and their Medicare rules " ) and happy to comply with any of my future requests. " That , she knows what she is talking about when it comes to Medicare... " :-) Pennisi Lakeshore Sports Physical Therapy Chicago, IL Certification - challenge = chance There seems to be the constant issue of what to do with the medicare patient when they really dont need therapy any longer, but the doctor wants them to continue. Certification. Discharge. Ugh. Forgive me for the insulting pointing out of the obvious. But has anyone gone to the doctor, gotten 2 or 3 face to face minutes, and explained the rules? Docs do not always know their role and responsibility as it relates to various payors. Far too often, in my observation, PTs are intimidated when speaking to a potential referral source, and cannot tactfully find a way to speak the obvious, which is this: " Sir/ Mam... what you have asked me to do is illegal. " Aside from Maill'y respeaking of the rules/ laws/ ethics/ etc, I believe it paramount for PTs to try their best to teach docs what the rules are. The wide spread failure of this is what causes doctors to not know the medicare rules. Far too often, have doc's said to me, " Just send me what I need to sign. I'll sign it. " I try to respond with, " Well, that no longer meets the standard set by the most recent medicare transmittal. " Then, I hope for the best. Hope that other PTs are also playing by the rules. Hope that other PTs will also honor the rules as they are written. And hope that other PTs do not filter misinformation to the docs, making them believe that signing something once a month is Okay. I hope that others have something to offer on this important one. - Simonetti, DPT Chestertown, MD Looking to start your own Practice? Visit www.InHomeRehab.com. Bring PTManager to your organization or State Association with a professional workshop or course - call us at 313 884-8920 to arrange PTManager encourages participation in your professional association. Join and participate now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2004 Report Share Posted October 5, 2004 I feel this situation usually arises from inadequate communication to the MD that their patient has little of no remaining functional deficits. A short, concise, typed report with statements such as " residual minor functional deficits should subside with continuation of current home exercise program, of which patient is independent with " usually solves the problem. I'm not saying the PT's in this quandry fail to do this but if a PT scribbles a hand written progress report it in NEVER read by the MD and may lead to this situation. Any other healthcare professional would never dream of a hand written report but I know some PT's still do this which makes us appear " sub-professional " . Certification - challenge = chance There seems to be the constant issue of what to do with the medicare patient when they really dont need therapy any longer, but the doctor wants them to continue. Certification. Discharge. Ugh. Forgive me for the insulting pointing out of the obvious. But has anyone gone to the doctor, gotten 2 or 3 face to face minutes, and explained the rules? Docs do not always know their role and responsibility as it relates to various payors. Far too often, in my observation, PTs are intimidated when speaking to a potential referral source, and cannot tactfully find a way to speak the obvious, which is this: " Sir/ Mam... what you have asked me to do is illegal. " Aside from Maill'y respeaking of the rules/ laws/ ethics/ etc, I believe it paramount for PTs to try their best to teach docs what the rules are. The wide spread failure of this is what causes doctors to not know the medicare rules. Far too often, have doc's said to me, " Just send me what I need to sign. I'll sign it. " I try to respond with, " Well, that no longer meets the standard set by the most recent medicare transmittal. " Then, I hope for the best. Hope that other PTs are also playing by the rules. Hope that other PTs will also honor the rules as they are written. And hope that other PTs do not filter misinformation to the docs, making them believe that signing something once a month is Okay. I hope that others have something to offer on this important one. - Simonetti, DPT Chestertown, MD Looking to start your own Practice? Visit www.InHomeRehab.com. Bring PTManager to your organization or State Association with a professional workshop or course - call us at 313 884-8920 to arrange PTManager encourages participation in your professional association. Join and participate now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2004 Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 : Great Job! That is a fine example of turning a potential negative into a positive. It is amazing to realize how confused MDs can be on this topic. They and their offices struggle to keep up with their own regs, let alone ours! - Simonetti, PT Chestertown, MD -- In PTManager , " Chad Pennisi " <pennisi@l...> wrote: > > I have actually printed out the LMRP from the carrier, highlighted > pertinent areas and dropped by the doctor's office for a brief review. > They were impressed that I could provide a reference (vs. " those crazy > PT's and their Medicare rules " ) and happy to comply with any of my > future requests. " That , she knows what she is talking about when > it comes to Medicare... " :-) > > Pennisi > Lakeshore Sports Physical Therapy > Chicago, IL > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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