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FOOT!!!! I am headed to bed and looked at this antique and the day is flashing---I MISSED THE TALK NIGHT.. Ok someone fill me in on any goodies that was said..please.. I feel so lost without my laptop I'm all bumfoussled.. is that a word?? sounded right to me.. next time.. Love & Prayers...Peggy

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Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 01:06:27 +0000

To: Breathe-Support

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where were all of you tonight??

Peggy? ginger? vicky? pink rocky beach joyce? joanie? poor me and

leanne the only girls with all those boys.........yeesh lol

was a very good night for us. lots of sharing.

thanks for being there mark, jon, gordon, ken........

EG 10-05

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oops and let's not forget P?????????????????????? where were you???

jaime eg 10-05

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> where were all of you tonight??

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> Peggy? ginger? vicky? pink rocky beach joyce? joanie? poor me and

> leanne the only girls with all those boys.........yeesh lol

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> was a very good night for us. lots of sharing.

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> thanks for being there mark, jon, gordon, ken........

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> EG 10-05

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Sorry I missed it... had a loooooong day. 2 doctors app'ts. My regular doc whom I adore and then had to travel about 45 minutes to see a doctor for social security.... what a farce. The office was filthy, the doctor refused to tell me his name and then when I responded to his question about what kind of lung disease I had, he shrugged and said, "I don't know what that is". I was speechless.

Beth Fibrotic NSIP 06/06

Don't try to explain it, just nod your head.

Breathe in, breathe out. Move on. J. Buffett

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where were all of you tonight??Peggy? ginger? vicky? pink rocky beach joyce? joanie? poor me and leanne the only girls with all those boys........ .yeesh lolwas a very good night for us. lots of sharing.thanks for being there mark, jon, gordon, ken........ EG 10-05

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Beth,

I had an experience similar to yours. After I had been on SSDI for a couple of years, they sent me to one of thier chosen docs for a confirmation. Now, I live 5 minutes from a major city. They sent me to a guy who lives in an itsy bitsy town about 40 minutes away. His office was in a trailer. He had no idea what Lupus was, acted like I was faking lung disease and couldn't speak English so that I could understand him. Then he sent me accross the street to a small 'hospital' for a PFT. They had no idea what they were doing. The girl looked to be about 16. Insanity!

Hugs, Joyce PF 1997 Bronchiectasis 2004 INDIANA

>> Sorry I missed it... had a loooooong day. 2 doctors app'ts. My regular doc whom I adore and then had to travel about 45 minutes to see a doctor for social security.... what a farce. The office was filthy, the doctor refused to tell me his name and then when I responded to his question about what kind of lung disease I had, he shrugged and said, "I don't know what that is". I was speechless. > > Beth Fibrotic NSIP 06/06> > Don't try to explain it, just nod your head.> Breathe in, breathe out. Move on. J. Buffett> > > > chat> > where were all of you tonight??> > Peggy? ginger? vicky? pink rocky beach joyce? joanie? poor me and > leanne the only girls with all those boys........ .yeesh lol> > was a very good night for us. lots of sharing.> > thanks for being there mark, jon, gordon, ken........> > EG 10-05>

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Beth...I recently changed from Lexapro to Cymbalta. BOY what a difference! I've been on nearly every anti-depressant there is. Either it stops working or the side-effects get me. So far this is a great change. I feel better, I'm up and about and out more. Hope yours works equally as well for you. I've stopped fighting the stigma of anti-depressants. We (whoops...I) need them to function in a somewhat normal fashion.

Love going your way today. Sher

"Don't worry about tomorrow, God is already there"

chat> > where were all of you tonight??> > Peggy? ginger? vicky? pink rocky beach joyce? joanie? poor me and > leanne the only girls with all those boys........ .yeesh lol> > was a very good night for us. lots of sharing.> > thanks for being there mark, jon, gordon, ken........> > EG 10-05>

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Beth...it's a good thing I can type here, 'cause I'm speechless as well! Great , the experiences we have trying to get good medical care. Fortunately, I'm thinking the majority of us do get good care, or go elsewhere if we don't!

So...did you find out what you needed to know that day?

Blessings. Sher

"Don't worry about tomorrow, God is already there"

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where were all of you tonight??Peggy? ginger? vicky? pink rocky beach joyce? joanie? poor me and leanne the only girls with all those boys........ .yeesh lolwas a very good night for us. lots of sharing.thanks for being there mark, jon, gordon, ken........ EG 10-05

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Sher,

Thanks.... This is my first time on any type of anti-depressant so we'll see what happens. My son has been on a bunch of different ones, Wellbutrin, Serzone, Lexapro etc etc. so I'm fairly familiar with them but have no idea how I will react. Hopefully the Zoloft will help lift me out of this funk I've been in.

I've never been particularly good at winter and cold weather and shorter days but this year feels signifcantly worse. I feel very isolated and lonely. I've always been very independant and a pull myself up by my own bootstraps kind of girl but that's not going to work anymore. I definitely need help with this and I'm not too proud to ask for it.

Thanks for the love!

Beth Fibrotic NSIP 06/06

Don't try to explain it, just nod your head.

Breathe in, breathe out. Move on. J. Buffett

chat> > where were all of you tonight??> > Peggy? ginger? vicky? pink

rocky beach joyce? joanie? poor me and > leanne the only girls with all those boys........ .yeesh lol> > was a very good night for us. lots of sharing.> > thanks for being there mark, jon, gordon, ken........> > EG 10-05>

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Beth...I can only imagine how isolated and lonely we would feel if we didn't have this group! I'm surprised when I stop and think how much time I spend on my computer since finding this group. Peggy's 'puter was down, as you know, and she said she felt soooo isolated.

I think a lot of us women (and the guys too) have been different in our past activities. It's hard for me to realize how little I do now. Took me awhile to mentally process that what I DO has nothing to do with WHO I am. My self-worth was tied into what I did.

Learning to accept what I cannot change has been literally a God-job in my life. It's so much easier not fighting life. I've done it all my life.

Here's more love....Sher

"Don't worry about tomorrow, God is already there"

chat> > where were all of you tonight??> > Peggy? ginger? vicky? pink rocky beach joyce? joanie? poor me and > leanne the only girls with all those boys........ .yeesh lol> > was a very good night for us. lots of sharing.> > thanks for being there mark, jon, gordon, ken........> > EG 10-05>

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Sher,

I'm very fortunate in that I get excellent medical care. My pulmonologist is a wonderful caring human being and an excellent doctor as well.

The doctor I went to see yesterday afternoon was a doctor that social security told me I had to see as part of my claim evaluation for SSDI. I will hopefully never see him again. I can't imagine that there was any useful information at all gained from that "examination".

Beth Fibrotic NSIP 06/06

Don't try to explain it, just nod your head.

Breathe in, breathe out. Move on. J. Buffett

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where were all of you tonight??Peggy? ginger? vicky? pink rocky beach joyce? joanie? poor me and leanne the only girls with all those boys........ .yeesh lolwas a very good night for us. lots of sharing.thanks for being there mark, jon, gordon, ken........ EG 10-05

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MB...did you make a complaint against him? Sher

"Don't worry about tomorrow, God is already there"

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where were all of you tonight??Peggy? ginger? vicky? pink rocky beach joyce? joanie? poor me and leanne the only girls with all those boys........ .yeesh lolwas a very good night for us. lots of sharing.thanks for being there mark, jon, gordon, ken........ EG 10-05

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Dear Sher: I am on Cymbalta as well and I wanted to let you know to be careful in increasing doses. I was doing fair at 30 mg. so the doctor upped it to 60mg after a month and I was doing better but not great, so she increased it to 120mg. Well after a month I became so depressed AND apathetic, and something I have never been before is apathetic. I stayed in bed all day every day because I just didnt care if I lived or died or ate or got up, well you get the point. Sometimes larger doses of anti-depressants can actually make the depression worse. So if you go up in dose on this med, watch out for a severe mood change and check with the doctor to see if the med then needs to be lowered and/or a different med added to it. Just wanted to make sure you knew about this. I didnt, and suffered needlessly. Hugs, CarolynSher K Bauman wrote: Beth...I recently changed from Lexapro to Cymbalta. BOY what a difference! I've been on nearly every anti-depressant there is. Either it stops working or the side-effects get me. So far this is a great change. I feel better, I'm up and about and out more. Hope yours works equally as well for you. I've stopped fighting the stigma of anti-depressants. We (whoops...I) need them to function in a somewhat normal fashion. Love going your way today. Sher "Don't worry about tomorrow, God is already there" chat> > where were all of you tonight??> > Peggy? ginger? vicky? pink rocky beach joyce? joanie? poor me and > leanne the only girls with all those boys........ .yeesh lol> >

was a very good night for us. lots of sharing.> > thanks for being there mark, jon, gordon, ken........> > EG 10-05>

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Thanks Carolyn. I'm on a dose of 20 right now. Dr did up to 30 after I had been successful for a month or more. The 30 made me feel "edgy" . I guess a modern word may be "wired" not high, just couldn't seem to stop "doing". I requested to back off to the 20 again. Like I said, for me, anti-depressants either stop working or I have side effects. But if I stop taking them I have worse problems. It's a curse!

Thanks again. Your knowledge is so valuable. Sher

"Don't worry about tomorrow, God is already there"

chat> > where were all of you tonight??> > Peggy? ginger? vicky? pink rocky beach joyce? joanie? poor me and > leanne the only girls with all those boys........ .yeesh lol> > was a very good night for us. lots of sharing.> > thanks for being there mark, jon, gordon, ken........> > EG 10-05>

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Joyce,

Thanks. I'm optimistic that the Zoloft will help but I know I have to be patient for awhile till it kicks in. Sunlight definitely helps me too. I've always felt a seasonal component to my state of mind. I'm always happier in the summer months. Love the sun and long days.

As I'm typing I'm at my desk at a south facing window enjoying what sun there is on this semi-overcast day. I'll take whatever sunshine I can!

Beth Fibrotic NSIP 06/06

Don't try to explain it, just nod your head.

Breathe in, breathe out. Move on. J. Buffett

chat> >> > where were all of you tonight??> >> > Peggy? ginger? vicky? pink rocky beach joyce? joanie? poor me and> > leanne the only girls with all those boys........ .yeesh lol> >> > was a very good

night for us. lots of sharing.> >> > thanks for being there mark, jon, gordon, ken........> >> > EG 10-05> >>

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i too was on zoloft but i found it really didn't help me at all so i

stopped taking it.

i'm kind of funny about those kind of things. i think anit-

depressants are like diet pills. you didn't need them to get that way

(whether it be fat or depressed) and i don't see how pills really

help the situation either. (of course this is from my own personal

experiences)

so when i am down, i try to do things that normally make me happy and

i tend to feel better almost instantly most of the time.

the children and i are baking cookies this week to delivery to our

elderly neighbors on friday........something constructive for them to

do while on break from school as well as something nice for our

community.(and our elderly neighbors who have pretty much adopted my

kids) when they go missing i know one of the " gramma's " have them. lol

they don't get very far........

EG 10-05

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> > > Sorry I missed it... had a loooooong day. 2 doctors app'ts. My

> regular doc whom I adore and then had to travel about 45 minutes to

see

> a doctor for social security.... what a farce. The office was

filthy,

> the doctor refused to tell me his name and then when I responded to

his

> question about what kind of lung disease I had, he shrugged and

said, " I

> don't know what that is " . I was speechless.

> > >

> > > Beth Fibrotic NSIP 06/06

> > >

> > > Don't try to explain it, just nod your head.

> > > Breathe in, breathe out. Move on. J. Buffett

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> > > chat

> > >

> > > where were all of you tonight??

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> > > Peggy? ginger? vicky? pink rocky beach joyce? joanie? poor me

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> > > leanne the only girls with all those boys........ .yeesh lol

> > >

> > > was a very good night for us. lots of sharing.

> > >

> > > thanks for being there mark, jon, gordon, ken........

> > >

> > > EG 10-05

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now come on Vicky!

who better than to lift your spirits than us bunch of hoodlums. lol

how are you feeling now?? better i hope!

i had a really good weekend. i kept trying to get on the boards

yesterday but i never could get signed it, i don't know if it was

just yahoo acting up or what.

of course yesterday was the start of Chanuka, so that was a buy time

for us..........and Happy Chanuka to all those that it applies to.

today we arent doing much. chuck is on graveyards and when he gets

off at 6 a.m. on Tuesday morning, that will be 7 nights straight he

has worked. poor baby. working so hard to take care of us. now that i

feel bad about.....that i can't do more to help support our family,

but what can i do??

nicholas is running around like a mad man in his spiderman boxers

thinking he is king of the castle this morning.....that one has a

spirit that can not be broken.........wish i were more like him! he

thinks the xopenex he has to take is disgusting so getting him to do

it is like pulling teeth! have to pretty much hog tie him to get him

to take it, it's an inhaler. (i tried it just to see what all the

fuss was about, it is some pretty nasty stuff!)

ashli spent the night with a friend last night so she is not home yet

today to torment her brother lol he is normally the quietest little

boy you ever could meet until his sister is around, then the war is

on. lol

and me, well i went to chapel this morning, then my classes and now i

am just being lazy, think i'll order in for dinner and not even worry

about cooking today.

i hope you are having a good weekend as well.

thinking of you.

EG 10-05

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> Hi ,

>

> I almost called but was alittle down in the dumps, not bad, just

a lil, and

> I didn't wanna depress anyone else. I'll be okie...:)

>

> Vicky81856

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Now you made me smile and laugh as I pictured Nick running around playing. I remember when my boys were little and did that. Yes I'm doing better, I slept most of today, seems like I can do a lot one day then the next I have ot rest up, but.....my familys all commin thbis weekend, yeeeehawwwww it will be the most blesseded Christmas ever. Thank you Jesus!!!!!!!!!!

God bless you.........

Vicky81856

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Hi - thanks for missing me on chat night! Also thanks for

Christmas card. I also appreciated the one from the Foundation,

Leanne. Can't believe how time consuming life has been since

Thanksgiving. Had about an hour tonight, so I am trying to catch up

with posts, (impossible!) Christmas is just a week away. We are

really scaling back activities-wise - just need a breather...who

doesn't?!LOL

Talk to you next year - Love and light, Joanie

In Breathe-Support , " jaime " wrote:

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> where were all of you tonight??

>

> Peggy? ginger? vicky? pink rocky beach joyce? joanie? poor me and

> leanne the only girls with all those boys.........yeesh lol

>

> was a very good night for us. lots of sharing.

>

> thanks for being there mark, jon, gordon, ken........

>

> EG 10-05

>

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