Guest guest Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 My girl has been taking Zithromax (actually azythromicin, the pharmacy substitute) for the last two weeks and her involuntary body movements have increased. During our time with her in the playroom, she puts her hand in front of her eyes, drops on her knees, jumps (both legs airborne-- not her usual style) and makes lots of funny sounds, plus scripting, flexes, etc. She's still with me, but when these things happen she's in another world. Is this the " getting worse before it gets better " reaction? I assume the only way to see if the PANDAs titers are down is another blood test, right? Luz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 Have you considered an antifungal with the antibiotic? I won't let my kids have antibiotics without antifungals anymore. Nor anyone in my family. I think yeast caused my son's ocd behaviors back in the day. -- In mb12 valtrex , Paloma Zabin wrote: > > My girl has been taking Zithromax (actually azythromicin, the > pharmacy substitute) for the last two weeks and her involuntary body > movements have increased. During our time with her in the playroom, > she puts her hand in front of her eyes, drops on her knees, jumps > (both legs airborne-- not her usual style) and makes lots of funny > sounds, plus scripting, flexes, etc. She's still with me, but when > these things happen she's in another world. > > Is this the " getting worse before it gets better " reaction? > > I assume the only way to see if the PANDAs titers are down is another > blood test, right? > > > Luz > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2009 Report Share Posted June 6, 2009 good thought-- we did grapefruit seed extract before-and we just got test results showing high anaerobic yeast.... what would be best??LuzHave you considered an antifungal with the antibiotic? I won't let my kids have antibiotics without antifungals anymore. Nor anyone in my family. I think yeast caused my son's ocd behaviors back in the day. -- In mb12 valtrex , Paloma Zabin wrote:>> My girl has been taking Zithromax (actually azythromicin, the > pharmacy substitute) for the last two weeks and her involuntary body > movements have increased. During our time with her in the playroom, > she puts her hand in front of her eyes, drops on her knees, jumps > (both legs airborne-- not her usual style) and makes lots of funny > sounds, plus scripting, flexes, etc. She's still with me, but when > these things happen she's in another world.> > Is this the "getting worse before it gets better" reaction?> > I assume the only way to see if the PANDAs titers are down is another > blood test, right?> > > Luz> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2009 Report Share Posted June 6, 2009 I don't know what wuold be best, but I can tell you what we do around here, and my son's gut is clean. We pop garlic like pills. I cut raw organic garlic into pill size pieces and he downs them with water. He gets GSE in his school lunch water bottle and into anything else that I remember to put it in. Probiotics, etc. Very low sugar round here. For us that has worked, but my son is not on antibiotics. If he had to take them, I would make the doctor give him nystatin with them, me thinks. But again....... I'm no expert. I " m sure others could have more insight. > > > > > > My girl has been taking Zithromax (actually azythromicin, the > > > pharmacy substitute) for the last two weeks and her involuntary body > > > movements have increased. During our time with her in the playroom, > > > she puts her hand in front of her eyes, drops on her knees, jumps > > > (both legs airborne-- not her usual style) and makes lots of funny > > > sounds, plus scripting, flexes, etc. She's still with me, but when > > > these things happen she's in another world. > > > > > > Is this the " getting worse before it gets better " reaction? > > > > > > I assume the only way to see if the PANDAs titers are down is > > another > > > blood test, right? > > > > > > > > > Luz > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 I love the garlic trick! our girl loves the precooked gluten free chicken sausages with garlic-- but from there to raw garlic.... we sneak it in rice, and I know it does help.GSE? remind me pleaseWIll do the antifungal with the next month of antibiotics....But I think the LDN might also help (after reading Christel and others)-- she obviously has immune system issues!Luz I don't know what wuold be best, but I can tell you what we do around here, and my son's gut is clean. We pop garlic like pills. I cut raw organic garlic into pill size pieces and he downs them with water. He gets GSE in his school lunch water bottle and into anything else that I remember to put it in. Probiotics, etc. Very low sugar round here. For us that has worked, but my son is not on antibiotics. If he had to take them, I would make the doctor give him nystatin with them, me thinks. But again....... I'm no expert. I"m sure others could have more insight.> > >> > > My girl has been taking Zithromax (actually azythromicin, the> > > pharmacy substitute) for the last two weeks and her involuntary body> > > movements have increased. During our time with her in the playroom,> > > she puts her hand in front of her eyes, drops on her knees, jumps> > > (both legs airborne-- not her usual style) and makes lots of funny> > > sounds, plus scripting, flexes, etc. She's still with me, but when> > > these things happen she's in another world.> > >> > > Is this the "getting worse before it gets better" reaction?> > >> > > I assume the only way to see if the PANDAs titers are down is > > another> > > blood test, right?> > >> > >> > > Luz> > >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 Another garlic idea that takes the " edge " off the taste but still retains all the benefits is to roast garlic in the oven. http://www.elise.com/recipes/archives/001712roasted_garlic.php Nanci > > > > > > > > > > My girl has been taking Zithromax (actually azythromicin, the > > > > > pharmacy substitute) for the last two weeks and her > > involuntary body > > > > > movements have increased. During our time with her in the > > playroom, > > > > > she puts her hand in front of her eyes, drops on her knees, > > jumps > > > > > (both legs airborne-- not her usual style) and makes lots of > > funny > > > > > sounds, plus scripting, flexes, etc. She's still with me, but > > when > > > > > these things happen she's in another world. > > > > > > > > > > Is this the " getting worse before it gets better " reaction? > > > > > > > > > > I assume the only way to see if the PANDAs titers are down is > > > > another > > > > > blood test, right? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Luz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 sounds like yeast is up in this child. cranberry juice (pure can help) garlic, coconut and then other fungal meds as well. Original Message: ----------------- From: Paloma Zabin zabin.luzed@... Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 11:36:11 -0400 To: mb12 valtrex Subject: Re: Re: Zithromax and increase in OCD behavior I love the garlic trick! our girl loves the precooked gluten free chicken sausages with garlic-- but from there to raw garlic.... we sneak it in rice, and I know it does help. GSE? remind me please WIll do the antifungal with the next month of antibiotics.... But I think the LDN might also help (after reading Christel and others)-- she obviously has immune system issues! Luz > > > I don't know what wuold be best, but I can tell you what we do > around here, and my son's gut is clean. > We pop garlic like pills. I cut raw organic garlic into pill size > pieces and he downs them with water. He gets GSE in his school lunch > water bottle and into anything else that I remember to put it in. > Probiotics, etc. Very low sugar round here. For us that has worked, > but my son is not on antibiotics. If he had to take them, I would > make the doctor give him nystatin with them, me thinks. But > again....... I'm no expert. I " m sure others could have more insight. > > > > > > > > > > My girl has been taking Zithromax (actually azythromicin, the > > > > pharmacy substitute) for the last two weeks and her > involuntary body > > > > movements have increased. During our time with her in the > playroom, > > > > she puts her hand in front of her eyes, drops on her knees, > jumps > > > > (both legs airborne-- not her usual style) and makes lots of > funny > > > > sounds, plus scripting, flexes, etc. She's still with me, but > when > > > > these things happen she's in another world. > > > > > > > > Is this the " getting worse before it gets better " reaction? > > > > > > > > I assume the only way to see if the PANDAs titers are down is > > > another > > > > blood test, right? > > > > > > > > > > > > Luz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web.com – Enhanced email for the mobile individual based on Microsoft® Exchange - http://link.mail2web.com/Personal/EnhancedEmail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 thanks Christel!sounds like yeast is up in this child. cranberry juice (pure can help)garlic, coconut and then other fungal meds as well.Original Message:-----------------From: Paloma Zabin zabin.luzedrcnDate: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 11:36:11 -0400To: mb12 valtrex Subject: Re: Re: Zithromax and increase in OCD behaviorI love the garlic trick! our girl loves the precooked gluten free chicken sausages with garlic-- but from there to raw garlic.... we sneak it in rice, and I know it does help.GSE? remind me pleaseWIll do the antifungal with the next month of antibiotics....But I think the LDN might also help (after reading Christel and others)-- she obviously has immune system issues!Luz>>> I don't know what wuold be best, but I can tell you what we do > around here, and my son's gut is clean.> We pop garlic like pills. I cut raw organic garlic into pill size > pieces and he downs them with water. He gets GSE in his school lunch > water bottle and into anything else that I remember to put it in. > Probiotics, etc. Very low sugar round here. For us that has worked, > but my son is not on antibiotics. If he had to take them, I would > make the doctor give him nystatin with them, me thinks. But > again....... I'm no expert. I"m sure others could have more insight.>> > > > >> > > > My girl has been taking Zithromax (actually azythromicin, the> > > > pharmacy substitute) for the last two weeks and her > involuntary body> > > > movements have increased. During our time with her in the > playroom,> > > > she puts her hand in front of her eyes, drops on her knees, > jumps> > > > (both legs airborne-- not her usual style) and makes lots of > funny> > > > sounds, plus scripting, flexes, etc. She's still with me, but > when> > > > these things happen she's in another world.> > > >> > > > Is this the "getting worse before it gets better" reaction?> > > >> > > > I assume the only way to see if the PANDAs titers are down is> > > another> > > > blood test, right?> > > >> > > >> > > > Luz> > > >> > >> > >> > >> >>>> ----------------------------------------------------------mail2web.com – Enhanced email for the mobile individual based on Microsoft®Exchange - http://link.mail2web.com/Personal/EnhancedEmail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 Coconut helps with yeast???? In what form? > > > > > > > > > > My girl has been taking Zithromax (actually azythromicin, the > > > > > pharmacy substitute) for the last two weeks and her > > involuntary body > > > > > movements have increased. During our time with her in the > > playroom, > > > > > she puts her hand in front of her eyes, drops on her knees, > > jumps > > > > > (both legs airborne-- not her usual style) and makes lots of > > funny > > > > > sounds, plus scripting, flexes, etc. She's still with me, but > > when > > > > > these things happen she's in another world. > > > > > > > > > > Is this the " getting worse before it gets better " reaction? > > > > > > > > > > I assume the only way to see if the PANDAs titers are down is > > > > another > > > > > blood test, right? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Luz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > mail2web.com – Enhanced email for the mobile individual based on Microsoft® > Exchange - http://link.mail2web.com/Personal/EnhancedEmail > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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