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Lynda,

It's my guess that Austin is just not ready. I've gone through the same

thing with Neal. The only difference is that Neal was born without an anus,

so had to have a sphincter muscle MADE in surgery (nobody makes it quite the

same way that God does - so we still have problems). One of our pediatric

surgeons suggested that I begin bowel training, which is different from potty

training. Takes a little more time and effort though. It has become our

routine now that Neal sits on the potty every morning for half an hour or

however long it takes for him to " show me the poop. " Sounds barbaric, I

know - to make this easier for him, I bought a TV/VCR combo and put it in the

bathroom, so he can watch Blue's Clues while he poops. I also have a little

table in there so that he can eat his breakfast while he sits there (the food

helps to stimulate action, as you know). I have books in a little basket,

and a lamp instead of the overhead light, just to keep it kinda' calm in

there. It took a little getting used to, but now it has become our routine.

Now, that's how I've approached it being the parent of a child with special

needs. Another approach I took, as plain old parent, regarding wet/dirty

pants, was to look at him like I was disgusted and insist that he clean

himself up. I read somewhere that children are slow to become potty-trained

sometimes because it means that they get at least a few minutes of undivided

attention from their parents everytime they have to be changed. I make Neal

do it himself. If he refuses to do it, I just let him run around wet/dirty

until he gives in and changes himself. In the meantime, I don't let him sit

on the furniture or anything, and I frequently tell him, " you stink! " He

looks at me all confused, as if to say, " why aren't you doing something about

it, " so I have to remind him that it's his problem, not mine. It's

maddening, I know, but try to stay calm. Good luck with all that!

Are the kids in his preschool potty-trained? Rather than doing another

year of preschool, I went ahead and sent Neal to kindergarten and have

decided to let him repeat that instead. After a year in the Kindergarten

environment, he is finally realizing what is expected of him, and he's

already starting to do much better. One more year will only give him that

much more time to catch up. But I think it is six of one, half dozen of the

other. Again, good luck - hope this helps some.

Rosie (mom to Neal, 5 with CHARGE, and -Marie, 9 months)

North Carolina, USA

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Hi, my son, timmy, is 5 (Aug. 15), and he had a very hard time training. No help from ped. uroligist said, remember he is delayed about a year. Well, we had him in pull-ups, and he used them as a crutch, even though he could do it, he would wait until nap time when I put a pullup on him to poop--everyday. so, we said no more pullups except at night. I also made him clean himself, pee, and redress himself. it helped.

as far as school, he has a late Aug. b-day, and very inmature--I taught 1st grade and would have kept him back had he been --I hate this word--Normal. So his first two years were handicapped pre-k the second year he went part time to reg. ed. pre-k, and this year is reg, pre-k with support. next year will be reg. k with support. it is a herd decision, but you knoiw your child best, go with your gut feeling.

and good luck with the potty training--we also do books in the potty--he has it mastered, now I'm struggling with my almost 3 yr. old who can do it, but has a mind of his own.

maria, mom to timmy 5 charger, keegan 3 on 3/20 and liam 3 months

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Lynda,

Austin sounds alot like Jillian. She will be 3 in March and I think if she really wanted to be potty trained. She would be. She just will do it when she wants and won't when she doesn't. She will go at home while in panties or naked but I would never dream of taking her anywhere without a diaper. I send her to school in a Pull-up.

I think she will let me know. I am not a big advocate on potty training. I NEVER, not for a day potty trained my son ,he came up to me one day and said,"Mommy, I don't want to wear diapers." I said okay and that was that. No accidents even at night. He was 2 yr 7 months... I think, although Jillian has CHARGE, her brain is as functional as 's ....she just has "issues" that she will one day do the same... I hope)

Foley

Mom to 5, (CHARGE in heaven) and Jillian 2 cHaRGE

potty training and school

Hi everyone on the list. I am Lynda, mom to Austin 4(charge) & h 1. This is my 1st time writing to the list. I do alot of list reading. I think I am hooked. finally! better late then never. I have a couple questions.. 1st does anyone have any good potty training tips? We have been trying for awhile now, with a little bit of luck. Austin does really well if he is running around the house with no pants on, but that just doesn't work out in real life. If we don't take him he will not go on his own or tell if he needs to go. We take him every hour. It doesn't bother him at all to be wet or dirty. incentives work for a while and then seem to wear off. Is he just not ready? Should I stop and then start trying again in month? I am staring to get frustrated. Our Dr. has not been any help she says to try Family Services, which now I have made an appointment for, is this a good idea or just a waste of time. Austin seems to do everything on his own time line. I've heard our kids have alot of potty training road blocks, why is this? 2nd.. Austin will be 5 on May 30th. I am wondering has anyone keep their kids in preschool an extra year. He is deaf and in Total communication preschool. I am just thinking he needs another year of language, self help skills to prepare him for the academics of kindergarten. Teachers keep telling to remember the Individual Education Plan. Anyone have any feelings on this? We went to the Minneapolis workshop and are really excited that now ,finally we are able to get involved, we can't wait until July. Should we bring kids or is it more for us. Grandpa and Grandma would love to get them all to themselves for a weekend. We hope to meet alot you there. Thanks for any suggestions.

Lynda, mom to Austin 4.5 (Charge) and h 1 (Wild)"5th International CHARGE Syndrome Conference, Indianapolis, Indiana, July20-22, 2001. Information will be available first in CHARGE Accounts, theCHARGE Syndrome Foundation's newsletter."For information about the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter)please contact marion@... or visit the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation web page at http://www.chargesyndrome.org

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Lynda,

My son who does not have charge, was a difficult trainer at using the potty.

This may sound crazy, but we used dixie cups for him to urinate in at home.

He liked to peepee in the cup, then when he was staying dry, we let him empty the cups in the toliet. It seemed to be the breaking point. After that, everything went great!!!!

My daughter, Kriste, was held back in first grade. She was in a deaf classroom for oral students. We repeated first grade in the public school system. That way, she had a head start on what to expect with academics and it made a easy transition from a deaf class to complete oral class. I would do it again if the situation presented itself.

Iris, mom and grandma to Kriste, age 28, and her son Josh age 8months both Chargers

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Lynda,

Welcome to CHARGEland, I am not much help with the potty training as we aren't there quite yet, but I hope you will get some good answers from the other "pros" on here. Glad you found us and decided to write in, it's nice to meet another family!Mom to Kennedy 3yr old CHARGEr, 11, 9, and wife to GraemeNew Brunswick, CanadaVisit the "Weir homepage" at: http://www.geocities.com/kawfolksICQ #1426476

potty training and school

Hi everyone on the list. I am Lynda, mom to Austin 4(charge) & h 1. This is my 1st time writing to the list. I do alot of list reading. I think I am hooked. finally! better late then never. I have a couple questions.. 1st does anyone have any good potty training tips? We have been trying for awhile now, with a little bit of luck. Austin does really well if he is running around the house with no pants on, but that just doesn't work out in real life. If we don't take him he will not go on his own or tell if he needs to go. We take him every hour. It doesn't bother him at all to be wet or dirty. incentives work for a while and then seem to wear off. Is he just not ready? Should I stop and then start trying again in month? I am staring to get frustrated. Our Dr. has not been any help she says to try Family Services, which now I have made an appointment for, is this a good idea or just a waste of time. Austin seems to do everything on his own time line. I've heard our kids have alot of potty training road blocks, why is this? 2nd.. Austin will be 5 on May 30th. I am wondering has anyone keep their kids in preschool an extra year. He is deaf and in Total communication preschool. I am just thinking he needs another year of language, self help skills to prepare him for the academics of kindergarten. Teachers keep telling to remember the Individual Education Plan. Anyone have any feelings on this? We went to the Minneapolis workshop and are really excited that now ,finally we are able to get involved, we can't wait until July. Should we bring kids or is it more for us. Grandpa and Grandma would love to get them all to themselves for a weekend. We hope to meet alot you there. Thanks for any suggestions.

Lynda, mom to Austin 4.5 (Charge) and h 1 (Wild)"5th International CHARGE Syndrome Conference, Indianapolis, Indiana, July20-22, 2001. Information will be available first in CHARGE Accounts, theCHARGE Syndrome Foundation's newsletter."For information about the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter)please contact marion@... or visit the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation web page at http://www.chargesyndrome.org

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How about Grandma and Grandpa coming to Indianapolis with you? They can learn with you and the kids will enjoy the interaction with the other kids. Grandma and Grandpa will still get to have the kids at meal time and evenings. Will also give you a chance to get out of your room after sessions to talk more with the other parents while they watch the little ones. I went to Boston and we both went to Houston. Also there is a time for Grandparents to talk and share.

Liz Young - Grandma to Ogan

potty training and school

Hi everyone on the list. I am Lynda, mom to Austin 4(charge) & h 1. This is my 1st time writing to the list. I do alot of list reading. I think I am hooked. finally! better late then never. I have a couple questions.. 1st does anyone have any good potty training tips? We have been trying for awhile now, with a little bit of luck. Austin does really well if he is running around the house with no pants on, but that just doesn't work out in real life. If we don't take him he will not go on his own or tell if he needs to go. We take him every hour. It doesn't bother him at all to be wet or dirty. incentives work for a while and then seem to wear off. Is he just not ready? Should I stop and then start trying again in month? I am staring to get frustrated. Our Dr. has not been any help she says to try Family Services, which now I have made an appointment for, is this a good idea or just a waste of time. Austin seems to do everything on his own time line. I've heard our kids have alot of potty training road blocks, why is this? 2nd.. Austin will be 5 on May 30th. I am wondering has anyone keep their kids in preschool an extra year. He is deaf and in Total communication preschool. I am just thinking he needs another year of language, self help skills to prepare him for the academics of kindergarten. Teachers keep telling to remember the Individual Education Plan. Anyone have any feelings on this? We went to the Minneapolis workshop and are really excited that now ,finally we are able to get involved, we can't wait until July. Should we bring kids or is it more for us. Grandpa and Grandma would love to get them all to themselves for a weekend. We hope to meet alot you there. Thanks for any suggestions.

Lynda, mom to Austin 4.5 (Charge) and h 1 (Wild)"5th International CHARGE Syndrome Conference, Indianapolis, Indiana, July20-22, 2001. Information will be available first in CHARGE Accounts, theCHARGE Syndrome Foundation's newsletter."For information about the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter)please contact marion@... or visit the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation web page at http://www.chargesyndrome.org

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Hi all,

I don't usually write but, this is an issue we have been dealing with. My

twins boys (chargers) age 5 are having a terrible time potty training! They

will pee in the potty but, are wet in-between and don't seem to have any idea

or care that they are wet or dirty. When I ask where is the pee or poop

supposed to go they tell me appropriately but, they can't tell me when they

have to go. We have tried pecs cards and signing to help with little success.

It is really frustrating and we have been in pull-ups for a while now and at

times try underwear. Doctors just say be patient -- they are just as

annoying!

Any ideas? Jill

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Potty training is a challenge for kids with CHARGE. is 11 and still wears

pull-ups. Part of the problem is communication. Part of the problem is he is

still on a liquid diet. I think part of the problem is also a lack of total

physical control. In fact, I think the last is the biggest problem. I can see

the same thing with my 3 year old, who is dry most of the time, but can get

involved in activities and then suddenly realizes he needs to to potty but gets

there too late. He will get it, though. For the control problem is

probably muscular, but may also be neurological. I don't know. I think

will get there, though, as he is doing better. But progress is certainly slow.

Tim Hartshorne, father of (11)

JillZ211@... wrote:

> Hi all,

> I don't usually write but, this is an issue we have been dealing with. My

> twins boys (chargers) age 5 are having a terrible time potty training! They

> will pee in the potty but, are wet in-between and don't seem to have any idea

> or care that they are wet or dirty. When I ask where is the pee or poop

> supposed to go they tell me appropriately but, they can't tell me when they

> have to go. We have tried pecs cards and signing to help with little success.

>

> It is really frustrating and we have been in pull-ups for a while now and at

> times try underwear. Doctors just say be patient -- they are just as

> annoying!

> Any ideas? Jill

>

>

> " 5th International CHARGE Syndrome Conference, Indianapolis, Indiana, July

> 20-22, 2001. Information will be available first in CHARGE Accounts, the

> CHARGE Syndrome Foundation's newsletter. "

>

> For information about the CHARGE Syndrome

> Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter)

> please contact marion@... or visit

> the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation web page

> at http://www.chargesyndrome.org

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Hi Jill,

We found toilet training very difficult also. There were many factors that

finally came together that made it work better. For us signing and using

PECS cards was a help, but not enough help until Kendra had better

awareness of her body and better use of the sphincter muscles used for

toileting. She could hold the urine allllll day but not be able to

release when it was the right time on the toilet. One thing that helped

significantly was exercises from the HANDLE Institute. Judith Bluestone of

the HANDLE Institute will be presenting in Indy for the conference. The

exercises she recommended for Kendra strengthened the sphincters all

through Kendra's body. Judith explained that by strengthening one

sphincter you can affect other sphincters in the body. The exercise that

helped Kendra just involved sucking water through a straw each day. The

mouth sphincters became stronger, but amazingly the sphincters used for

toileting became stronger also. Kendra became much more aware of how to

pee when it was time. After one month of the exercises Kendra could use the

toilet when necessary. We still use PECS and signing, but she has not worn

diapers during the day since we did Judith's exercises almost 4 years

ago. She has had maybe 3 times in those 4 years when she didn't get to the

toilet in time. Prior to that time she had never used the toilet

consistently at home.

Other things that have helped have been increasing Kendra's sense of

proprioception by other exercises recommended by HANDLE and by sensory

integration therapy and osteopathic manipulation. All of these things have

been helpful in the toileting issue but also in Kendra's general development.

Mom to Kendra, and Camille

At 10:18 AM 2/1/01 -0500, you wrote:

>Hi all,

>I don't usually write but, this is an issue we have been dealing with. My

>twins boys (chargers) age 5 are having a terrible time potty training! They

>will pee in the potty but, are wet in-between and don't seem to have any idea

>or care that they are wet or dirty. When I ask where is the pee or poop

>supposed to go they tell me appropriately but, they can't tell me when they

>have to go. We have tried pecs cards and signing to help with little success.

>

>It is really frustrating and we have been in pull-ups for a while now and at

>times try underwear. Doctors just say be patient -- they are just as

>annoying!

> Any ideas? Jill

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on 2/1/01 9:53 AM, Tim Hartshorne at Tim.hartshorne@... wrote:

> Potty training is a challenge for kids with CHARGE. is 11 and still

> wears

> pull-ups. Part of the problem is communication. Part of the problem is he is

> still on a liquid diet. I think part of the problem is also a lack of total

> physical control. In fact, I think the last is the biggest problem. I can

> see

> the same thing with my 3 year old, who is dry most of the time, but can get

> involved in activities and then suddenly realizes he needs to to potty but

> gets

> there too late. He will get it, though. For the control problem is

> probably muscular, but may also be neurological. I don't know. I think

>

> will get there, though, as he is doing better. But progress is certainly

> slow.

>

> Tim Hartshorne, father of (11)

>

> JillZ211@... wrote:

>

>> Hi all,

>> I don't usually write but, this is an issue we have been dealing with. My

>> twins boys (chargers) age 5 are having a terrible time potty training! They

>> will pee in the potty but, are wet in-between and don't seem to have any idea

>> or care that they are wet or dirty. When I ask where is the pee or poop

>> supposed to go they tell me appropriately but, they can't tell me when they

>> have to go. We have tried pecs cards and signing to help with little

>> success.

>>

>> It is really frustrating and we have been in pull-ups for a while now and at

>> times try underwear. Doctors just say be patient -- they are just as

>> annoying!

>> Any ideas? Jill

>>

>>

>> " 5th International CHARGE Syndrome Conference, Indianapolis, Indiana, July

>> 20-22, 2001. Information will be available first in CHARGE Accounts, the

>> CHARGE Syndrome Foundation's newsletter. "

>>

>> For information about the CHARGE Syndrome

>> Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter)

>> please contact marion@... or visit

>> the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation web page

>> at http://www.chargesyndrome.org

>

>

>

> " 5th International CHARGE Syndrome Conference, Indianapolis, Indiana, July

> 20-22, 2001. Information will be available first in CHARGE Accounts, the

> CHARGE Syndrome Foundation's newsletter. "

>

> For information about the CHARGE Syndrome

> Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter)

> please contact marion@... or visit

> the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation web page

> at http://www.chargesyndrome.org

>

>

I don't want to seen simplistic (and my nose is running, and I have - or

should have - a rule not to write when sick...), but our daughter presented

many problems when " training. " We solved things quite by accident. She loved

a rubber toy we call Squeaker. I put water in Squeaker one day - or several

days, I don't remember - caught her attention, and had him pee in the

toilet. She loved it-and clearly understood what I had in mind. The main

thing here is that we had to be inventive - and still do. The rule of thumb

is always does she understand. If things still aren't going well, with any

thing, I always ask myself how I can explain things more clearly for her.

Often this isn't just a case of signing (in our situation) but rather of

dreaming up another Squeaker. I know all of our kids are different, but I

still think that we need to ask ourselves what our kids understand when

we're asking something of them. It can be really hard. Martha

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Martha is quite correct about a way to communicate what we mean. Unfortunately

is one of the lowest functioning children with CHARGE that I have seen.

He

understands a few signs and actually uses about three. As he takes nothing by

mouth

food or drink is not a reinforcer. But he does know what the potty is for.

It's

just that sometimes he sits for 15 minutes and does nothing, and a few minutes

later

is wet. He is at the point where he does not like to be wet, and so we

sometimes

find him lying or walking around naked, and find his pull up is wet. He just

can't

so far make the connection of putting himself on the potty when he needs to go.

I'm

not sure if he knows ahead of time that he needs to go. Always a challenge, but

we

are making progress.

Tim Hartshorne, father of (11)

wrote:

> on 2/1/01 9:53 AM, Tim Hartshorne at Tim.hartshorne@... wrote:

>

> > Potty training is a challenge for kids with CHARGE. is 11 and still

> > wears

> > pull-ups. Part of the problem is communication. Part of the problem is he

is

> > still on a liquid diet. I think part of the problem is also a lack of total

> > physical control. In fact, I think the last is the biggest problem. I can

> > see

> > the same thing with my 3 year old, who is dry most of the time, but can get

> > involved in activities and then suddenly realizes he needs to to potty but

> > gets

> > there too late. He will get it, though. For the control problem is

> > probably muscular, but may also be neurological. I don't know. I think

> >

> > will get there, though, as he is doing better. But progress is certainly

> > slow.

> >

> > Tim Hartshorne, father of (11)

> >

> > JillZ211@... wrote:

> >

> >> Hi all,

> >> I don't usually write but, this is an issue we have been dealing with. My

> >> twins boys (chargers) age 5 are having a terrible time potty training!

They

> >> will pee in the potty but, are wet in-between and don't seem to have any

idea

> >> or care that they are wet or dirty. When I ask where is the pee or poop

> >> supposed to go they tell me appropriately but, they can't tell me when they

> >> have to go. We have tried pecs cards and signing to help with little

> >> success.

> >>

> >> It is really frustrating and we have been in pull-ups for a while now and

at

> >> times try underwear. Doctors just say be patient -- they are just as

> >> annoying!

> >> Any ideas? Jill

> >>

> >>

> >> " 5th International CHARGE Syndrome Conference, Indianapolis, Indiana, July

> >> 20-22, 2001. Information will be available first in CHARGE Accounts, the

> >> CHARGE Syndrome Foundation's newsletter. "

> >>

> >> For information about the CHARGE Syndrome

> >> Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter)

> >> please contact marion@... or visit

> >> the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation web page

> >> at http://www.chargesyndrome.org

> >

> >

> >

> > " 5th International CHARGE Syndrome Conference, Indianapolis, Indiana, July

> > 20-22, 2001. Information will be available first in CHARGE Accounts, the

> > CHARGE Syndrome Foundation's newsletter. "

> >

> > For information about the CHARGE Syndrome

> > Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter)

> > please contact marion@... or visit

> > the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation web page

> > at http://www.chargesyndrome.org

> >

> >

> I don't want to seen simplistic (and my nose is running, and I have - or

> should have - a rule not to write when sick...), but our daughter presented

> many problems when " training. " We solved things quite by accident. She loved

> a rubber toy we call Squeaker. I put water in Squeaker one day - or several

> days, I don't remember - caught her attention, and had him pee in the

> toilet. She loved it-and clearly understood what I had in mind. The main

> thing here is that we had to be inventive - and still do. The rule of thumb

> is always does she understand. If things still aren't going well, with any

> thing, I always ask myself how I can explain things more clearly for her.

> Often this isn't just a case of signing (in our situation) but rather of

> dreaming up another Squeaker. I know all of our kids are different, but I

> still think that we need to ask ourselves what our kids understand when

> we're asking something of them. It can be really hard. Martha

>

>

> " 5th International CHARGE Syndrome Conference, Indianapolis, Indiana, July

> 20-22, 2001. Information will be available first in CHARGE Accounts, the

> CHARGE Syndrome Foundation's newsletter. "

>

> For information about the CHARGE Syndrome

> Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter)

> please contact marion@... or visit

> the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation web page

> at http://www.chargesyndrome.org

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Hello to all! This is my first time writing and I

will tell you what has seemed to work for me as far as

pottytraining my amost 4 year old son, Wyatt

(charger). I actually read about it in Child magazine.

We have a posterboard on the door to the bathroom and

when Wyatt goes potty in the toilet, he gets one

sticker to put on the board, and if he goes " #2 " he

gets 2 stickers. He can't wait to get another

sticker, so it makes him more conscious of when to go.

He uses sign language, so fortunately, communication

isn't a problem. Hope this helps at least one of you

like it did us!

--- wrote:

> on 2/1/01 9:53 AM, Tim Hartshorne at

> Tim.hartshorne@... wrote:

>

> > Potty training is a challenge for kids with

> CHARGE. is 11 and still

> > wears

> > pull-ups. Part of the problem is communication.

> Part of the problem is he is

> > still on a liquid diet. I think part of the

> problem is also a lack of total

> > physical control. In fact, I think the last is

> the biggest problem. I can

> > see

> > the same thing with my 3 year old, who is dry most

> of the time, but can get

> > involved in activities and then suddenly realizes

> he needs to to potty but

> > gets

> > there too late. He will get it, though. For

> the control problem is

> > probably muscular, but may also be neurological.

> I don't know. I think

> >

> > will get there, though, as he is doing better.

> But progress is certainly

> > slow.

> >

> > Tim Hartshorne, father of (11)

> >

> > JillZ211@... wrote:

> >

> >> Hi all,

> >> I don't usually write but, this is an issue we

> have been dealing with. My

> >> twins boys (chargers) age 5 are having a terrible

> time potty training! They

> >> will pee in the potty but, are wet in-between and

> don't seem to have any idea

> >> or care that they are wet or dirty. When I ask

> where is the pee or poop

> >> supposed to go they tell me appropriately but,

> they can't tell me when they

> >> have to go. We have tried pecs cards and signing

> to help with little

> >> success.

> >>

> >> It is really frustrating and we have been in

> pull-ups for a while now and at

> >> times try underwear. Doctors just say be patient

> -- they are just as

> >> annoying!

> >> Any ideas? Jill

> >>

> >>

> >> " 5th International CHARGE Syndrome Conference,

> Indianapolis, Indiana, July

> >> 20-22, 2001. Information will be available first

> in CHARGE Accounts, the

> >> CHARGE Syndrome Foundation's newsletter. "

> >>

> >> For information about the CHARGE Syndrome

> >> Foundation or to become a member (and get the

> newsletter)

> >> please contact marion@... or visit

> >> the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation web page

> >> at http://www.chargesyndrome.org

> >

> >

> >

> > " 5th International CHARGE Syndrome Conference,

> Indianapolis, Indiana, July

> > 20-22, 2001. Information will be available first

> in CHARGE Accounts, the

> > CHARGE Syndrome Foundation's newsletter. "

> >

> > For information about the CHARGE Syndrome

> > Foundation or to become a member (and get the

> newsletter)

> > please contact marion@... or visit

> > the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation web page

> > at http://www.chargesyndrome.org

> >

> >

> I don't want to seen simplistic (and my nose is

> running, and I have - or

> should have - a rule not to write when sick...), but

> our daughter presented

> many problems when " training. " We solved things

> quite by accident. She loved

> a rubber toy we call Squeaker. I put water in

> Squeaker one day - or several

> days, I don't remember - caught her attention, and

> had him pee in the

> toilet. She loved it-and clearly understood what I

> had in mind. The main

> thing here is that we had to be inventive - and

> still do. The rule of thumb

> is always does she understand. If things still

> aren't going well, with any

> thing, I always ask myself how I can explain things

> more clearly for her.

> Often this isn't just a case of signing (in our

> situation) but rather of

> dreaming up another Squeaker. I know all of our kids

> are different, but I

> still think that we need to ask ourselves what our

> kids understand when

> we're asking something of them. It can be really

> hard. Martha

>

>

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