Re: Maybe my last post :o(

[Guest guest]

Helen know we are all here for you so vent away. Take one hour at the time.

You know you have done everything you can for those girls and they will be back. There is no way they can provide the care these girls need. The expense and long nights, etc., is enough, but on top of them missing you and the grief they will give him and his girlfriend will be enough. Get yourself together for their sake as well as yours and listen to some of the people here that have been through these custody issues before.

MJ / Mom to Will 1/6/94 and wife to Mark 5/19/90

Back to work as RN BSN CCRN

[Guest guest]

HELEN DOESN'T YOUR DAUGHTER HAVE A SAY SO IN THIS? ALSO IF THOSE GIRLS

DO NOT GET THEIR MEDS BECAUSE HE THINKS THEY DON'T NEED IT THEN HE WILL

BE IN LOTS OF TROUBLE. I HAVE A HUNCH THIS WILL NOT LAST VERY LONG. HE

AND HIS GIRLFRIEND WANT TO PLAY PARENTS AND ARE DUMB ENOUGH TO USE THOSE

BABIES TO DO IT.I ALSO HAVE A FEELING THE WORDS COMING OUT OF HIS MOUTH

BELONGED TO HER NOT HIM. HAD YOU NOT BEEN RAISING THEM RIGHT THEN HE

WOULD HAVE TAKEN TEM A LONG TIME AGO. DO YOU NOT HAVE COSTUDY OF THEM?

IF NOT TAKE HIS BUTT TO COURT AS YOU HAVE MORE THAN ENOUGH PROOF THAT

YOU HAVE KEPT THEM ALL THESE YEARS. FROM THEIR SCHOOL AND THEIR DRS PPL

AROUND YOU YOUR FAMILY AND HIS FAMILY. REMEMBER IF THEY LIE UNDER OATH

THEY CAN GO TO JAIL. CALL YOU A LAWYER ASAP. IF IAM NOT MISTAKEN YOU

TOOK CARE OF HIM UP UNTIL A FEW MONTHS AGO. HE ABANDONED THEM BY LAW.

THE COURTS WILL BE TALKING TO THE GIRLS ALSO. WHEN HE SPRINGS HIS

SUPRISE ON THEM IT MAY BACKFIRE ON HIM TOO CAUSE KIDS THAT AGE ARE

RESOURCEFUL. THEYMAY CARE ABOUT HIM BUT THEIR HEARTS ARE YOURS BECAUSE

YOU HAVE BEEN THERE WITH THEM FROM THE DAY THEY WERE BORN. THIS IS WHY I

MAKE APRIL DRAW UP PAPERS AND MAKE SURE A JUDGE SIGNS THEM. I HAVE SOLE

COSTUDY OF CAGE AND IF HIS MOMMA DON'T STRAIGHTEN UP HE WILL BE BACK WIT

ME FULL TIME BEFORE LONG AND SHE CAN'T FIGHT IT. MY MOM DID THE SAME

TING TO MY GRANNY AFTER SHE HAD RAISED US FOR 10 YEARS WITHOUT HER EVER

BEING THERE. ARE THE GIRLS GETTING DISABILITY CHECK BY CHANCE? OR IS HE

PLANNING ON FILING ON THEM? THIS IS SO VERY SAD I CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT

YOU ARE GOING THROUGH AND PRAY THAT HE WILL BRING THE GIRLS BACK TODAY

OR TOMORROW AND SAY I AM SORRY I DIDN'T MEAN ANYTHING I SAID.YOU ARE IN

MY PRAYERS AND HANG IN THERE AND PRAY HE DECIDES TO DO THE RIGHT THING.

ALSO REMEMBER THOSE GIRLS LOVE YOU AND THEY ARE SMART THEY WILL FIND A

WAY TO SEE YOU AND TO BE WITH YOU. GET IN TOUCH WITH YOUR DAUGHTER AND

SEE IF SHE WILL HELP YOU GET THE GIRLS BACK AND I AM SURE SHE WILL. SHE

MAY NOT BE ABLE TO CARE FOR THEM BUT SHE LOVES THEM ENOUGH TO HAVE

PLACED THEM WITH YOU SO THEY COULD GROW UP WITH LOVE AND VERY GOOD

CARE.BOTHOF THE OLDER GIRLS HAVE SPECIAL NEEDS RIGHT AND NEED MEDS TO BE

OK. IF HE DOESN'T BRING THEM BACK IN A COUPLE OF DAYS CALL THEIR DRS

FINDOUT HOW LONE IT IS SAFE FOR THEM TO BE WITHOUT THEM THEN CALL THE

COPS AND REPORT HIM FOR CHILD ENDANGERMENT. BECAUSE UNLESS THIS WAS A

PLANNED THING AND HE HAS ALREADY TOOK THEM TO OTHER DRS AND GOT MEDS FOR

THEM THEY ARE WITHOUT THEM AND HE IS PUTTING THEM AT RISK. TALK TO A

LAWYER FIRST BUT I THINK YOU HAVE A GREAT CHANCE OF GETTING THEM BACK.

HE HAS NOT WANTED THEM ALL THIS TIME WHY START NOW? I AM SO VERY,VERY

SORRY THAT TIS HAD TO HAPPEN TO YOU. YOU KNOW I AM HERE IF AND WHEN YOU

NEED ME. LUV U JO

                              

http://community.webtv.net/jowaca/JOSFAVORITEPICTURES

Hello to all, I'm sorry but I won't be around for awhile. I am cying my eyes out as I type this. The Girls Daddy came and took the girls tonight for a sleep over. This was at three thirty. A little after nine he calls and said He is NEVER bringing them back home ( He wants to make a family now with his new girlfriend, that he has known for two and a half months, he belittled me to no end, saying I was the one making the girls sick and all my diseases were in my head ( I don't kow how I can go on at this point. I have raised them for seven years and he has lied to me constantly for the last three months ( He said that I can not see them or talk to them until he desides that it will be alright. I'm cying hysterically asking him when is that going to be? And he saaaid he doesn't know. But I am Not to go to there house or call them. They don't have their cloths or their favorite toys nothing. They don't have their meds or anything:o( I just can't handle this. I may be unsubing, I don't know. My head is hurting so hard, My heart has been torn out. The girls don't even know yet, he says he's telling them tomorrow:o( I just can't go on right now. I having a hard time seeing. I don't want the girls to think I did any of this. I Love Them So Much.

Sorry to you all for not answering any posts, but I just can't.

Please forgive me. I was told I was not raising them right. So I will be quiet to all for right now. I'm a mess.

Helen

          I may never see tomorrow;       there's no written guarantee, And things that happened yesterday                 belong to history!!! {{{Sent With Many Hugs}}}                  Helen

              

[Guest guest]

Jo !! How did you get soooo wise, hon ?! VERY good advice for Helen !!

But I think ya might want to send it to her private, too, cause I got a

feeling shes not gonna be reading much mail !!! 8^)

HELEN DOESN'T YOUR DAUGHTER HAVE A SAY SO IN THIS? ALSO IF THOSE GIRLS

DO NOT GET THEIR MEDS BECAUSE HE THINKS THEY DON'T NEED IT THEN HE WILL

BE IN LOTS OF TROUBLE. I HAVE A HUNCH THIS WILL NOT LAST VERY LONG. HE

AND HIS GIRLFRIEND WANT TO PLAY PARENTS AND ARE DUMB ENOUGH TO USE THOSE

BABIES TO DO IT.I ALSO HAVE A FEELING THE WORDS COMING OUT OF HIS MOUTH

BELONGED TO HER NOT HIM. HAD YOU NOT BEEN RAISING THEM RIGHT THEN HE

WOULD HAVE TAKEN TEM A LONG TIME AGO. DO YOU NOT HAVE COSTUDY OF THEM?

IF NOT TAKE HIS BUTT TO COURT AS YOU HAVE MORE THAN ENOUGH PROOF THAT

YOU HAVE KEPT THEM ALL THESE YEARS. FROM THEIR SCHOOL AND THEIR DRS PPL

AROUND YOU YOUR FAMILY AND HIS FAMILY. REMEMBER IF THEY LIE UNDER OATH

THEY CAN GO TO JAIL. CALL YOU A LAWYER ASAP. IF IAM NOT MISTAKEN YOU

TOOK CARE OF HIM UP UNTIL A FEW MONTHS AGO. HE ABANDONED THEM BY LAW.

THE COURTS WILL BE TALKING TO THE GIRLS ALSO. WHEN HE SPRINGS HIS

SUPRISE ON THEM IT MAY BACKFIRE ON HIM TOO CAUSE KIDS THAT AGE ARE

RESOURCEFUL. THEYMAY CARE ABOUT HIM BUT THEIR HEARTS ARE YOURS BECAUSE

YOU HAVE BEEN THERE WITH THEM FROM THE DAY THEY WERE BORN. THIS IS WHY I

MAKE APRIL DRAW UP PAPERS AND MAKE SURE A JUDGE SIGNS THEM. I HAVE SOLE

COSTUDY OF CAGE AND IF HIS MOMMA DON'T STRAIGHTEN UP HE WILL BE BACK WIT

ME FULL TIME BEFORE LONG AND SHE CAN'T FIGHT IT. MY MOM DID THE SAME

TING TO MY GRANNY AFTER SHE HAD RAISED US FOR 10 YEARS WITHOUT HER EVER

BEING THERE. ARE THE GIRLS GETTING DISABILITY CHECK BY CHANCE? OR IS HE

PLANNING ON FILING ON THEM? THIS IS SO VERY SAD I CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT

YOU ARE GOING THROUGH AND PRAY THAT HE WILL BRING THE GIRLS BACK TODAY

OR TOMORROW AND SAY I AM SORRY I DIDN'T MEAN ANYTHING I SAID.YOU ARE IN

MY PRAYERS AND HANG IN THERE AND PRAY HE DECIDES TO DO THE RIGHT THING.

ALSO REMEMBER THOSE GIRLS LOVE YOU AND THEY ARE SMART THEY WILL FIND A

WAY TO SEE YOU AND TO BE WITH YOU. GET IN TOUCH WITH YOUR DAUGHTER AND

SEE IF SHE WILL HELP YOU GET THE GIRLS BACK AND I AM SURE SHE WILL. SHE

MAY NOT BE ABLE TO CARE FOR THEM BUT SHE LOVES THEM ENOUGH TO HAVE

PLACED THEM WITH YOU SO THEY COULD GROW UP WITH LOVE AND VERY GOOD

CARE.BOTHOF THE OLDER GIRLS HAVE SPECIAL NEEDS RIGHT AND NEED MEDS TO BE

OK. IF HE DOESN'T BRING THEM BACK IN A COUPLE OF DAYS CALL THEIR DRS

FINDOUT HOW LONE IT IS SAFE FOR THEM TO BE WITHOUT THEM THEN CALL THE

COPS AND REPORT HIM FOR CHILD ENDANGERMENT. BECAUSE UNLESS THIS WAS A

PLANNED THING AND HE HAS ALREADY TOOK THEM TO OTHER DRS AND GOT MEDS FOR

THEM THEY ARE WITHOUT THEM AND HE IS PUTTING THEM AT RISK. TALK TO A

LAWYER FIRST BUT I THINK YOU HAVE A GREAT CHANCE OF GETTING THEM BACK.

HE HAS NOT WANTED THEM ALL THIS TIME WHY START NOW? I AM SO VERY,VERY

SORRY THAT TIS HAD TO HAPPEN TO YOU. YOU KNOW I AM HERE IF AND WHEN YOU

NEED ME. LUV U JO

                              

http://community.webtv.net/jowaca/JOSFAVORITEPICTURES

[Guest guest]

Oh Helen,

I'm at aloss for words.....I'm here for you anytime...Love ya,

Hugs

Sharon

-----Original Message-----From: angelbear1129@... Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2001 3:20 AMTo: cfidsfms-friends Subject: Maybe my last post (Hello to all, I'm sorry but I won't be around for awhile. I am cying my eyes out as I type this. The Girls Daddy came and took the girls tonight for a sleep over. This was at three thirty. A little after nine he calls and said He is NEVER bringing them back home ( He wants to make a family now with his new girlfriend, that he has known for two and a half months, he belittled me to no end, saying I was the one making the girls sick and all my diseases were in my head ( I don't kow how I can go on at this point. I have raised them for seven years and he has lied to me constantly for the last three months ( He said that I can not see them or talk to them until he desides that it will be alright. I'm cying hysterically asking him when is that going to be? And he saaaid he doesn't know. But I am Not to go to there house or call them. They don't have their cloths or their favorite toys nothing. They don't have their meds or anything:o( I just can't handle this. I may be unsubing, I don't know. My head is hurting so hard, My heart has been torn out. The girls don't even know yet, he says he's telling them tomorrow:o( I just can't go on right now. I having a hard time seeing. I don't want the girls to think I did any of this. I Love Them So Much. Sorry to you all for not answering any posts, but I just can't. Please forgive me. I was told I was not raising them right. So I will be quiet to all for right now. I'm a mess. Helen I may never see tomorrow; there's no written guarantee, And things that happened yesterday belong to history!!! {{{Sent With Many Hugs}}} Helen

[Guest guest]

KAREN MY MOM TRIED THIS WITH ME AND MY SISTER WHEN WE WERE LITTLE AFTER

MY DAD DIED AND SHE FOUND OUT SHE COULD DRAW A BEBEFITS CHECK ON US BUT

WE HAD TO LIVE IN HER HOME. WHEN SHE CAME TO GET US WE DID NOT EVEN KNOW

WHO SHE WAS!!! MY SISTER STILL HATES HER FOR THAT TODAY. BUT YOU CAN NOT

KEEP A CHILD FROM SEEING SOMEONE THEY LOVE. I WAS 7 AND MY SISTER WAS 8

AND MY MOM MOVED US IN WITH GRAND PARENTS. I GOT PAID SO MUCH A DAY FOR

CHOPPING COTTON AND FEEDING THE HOGS IT WASN;Y MUCH AND MOST OF IT WENT

ON CLOTHES FOR SCHOOL BUT WHAT WE GOT WE SAVED UP AND 3 MONTHS LATER

THEY PUT US ON A BUS TO GO TO SCHOOL AND WE GOT OFF WAITED TILL MY AUNTS

AND UNCLES WENT THEIR OWN WAY WENT TO THE TRAILWAYS BUS STATION BOUGHT A

TICKET AND WENT HOME. MY GRANNY CALLED AND TOLD THEM WHERE WE WERE BUT

IT WAS OVER A YEAR BEFORE ANYONE TOLD MY MOM CAUSE SHE NEVER ASKED IF

THEY KNEW ANYTHNG NEVER CALLED THE COPS OR NOTHING. SHE HAD COME TO GET

US SO WE COULD TAKE CARE OF THE TWINS SHE HAD JUST HAD. THOSE KIDS ARE

GOING TO HATE THEIR DAD FOR THIS. NOBODY WILL HAVE TO TELL THEM HELEN

HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT THEY WILL KNOW IN THEIR HEARTS. NOT ONLY THAT

BUT HELEN HAS ALL THE PAPERS HE WILL NEED TO GET THEM IN SCHOOL. THEY

WILL TELL SOMEONE AT SCHOOL AND ALL THE TEACHERS KNOW THAT HELEN IS WHO

THEY HAVE DEALT WITH ALL THIS TIME IF THEY FEEL IT IS CREATING

EMOTIONALLY PROBLEMS THEY WILL DO SOMETING ABOUT IT. NOW DAYS WHEN

PARENTS DUMP THEIR KDS THEY DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO JUST COME BACK AND

TAKE THEM BECAUSE THEY WANT TO PLAY HOUSE FOR A WHILE. LUV U JO

                              

http://community.webtv.net/jowaca/JOSFAVORITEPICTURES

Jo !! How did you get soooo wise, hon ?! VERY good advice for Helen !!

But I think ya might want to send it to her private, too, cause I got a

feeling shes not gonna be reading much mail !!! 8^)

[Guest guest]

Helen--do not unsub--this is when u need the support most.

you have LEGAL rights! don't let him walk all over you and the kids!

caro

[Guest guest]

Jo... I know you're right, hon ! But each state is so different !!

Hopefully she will get a good caseworker !!!! If it was in Rhode Island,

I have a friend who does that !!! I just thought.... maybe I'll forward

helens letter to her and see what she says !! Throuble is she just had

heart surgery a little while ago, and is just goin back to work on

Monday ! Even tho she is still really weak !!! 8^)

KAREN MY MOM TRIED THIS WITH ME AND MY SISTER WHEN WE WERE LITTLE AFTER

MY DAD DIED AND SHE FOUND OUT SHE COULD DRAW A BEBEFITS CHECK ON US BUT

WE HAD TO LIVE IN HER HOME. WHEN SHE CAME TO GET US WE DID NOT EVEN KNOW

WHO SHE WAS!!! MY SISTER STILL HATES HER FOR THAT TODAY. BUT YOU CAN NOT

KEEP A CHILD FROM SEEING SOMEONE THEY LOVE. I WAS 7 AND MY SISTER WAS 8

AND MY MOM MOVED US IN WITH GRAND PARENTS. I GOT PAID SO MUCH A DAY FOR

CHOPPING COTTON AND FEEDING THE HOGS IT WASN;Y MUCH AND MOST OF IT WENT

ON CLOTHES FOR SCHOOL BUT WHAT WE GOT WE SAVED UP AND 3 MONTHS LATER

THEY PUT US ON A BUS TO GO TO SCHOOL AND WE GOT OFF WAITED TILL MY AUNTS

AND UNCLES WENT THEIR OWN WAY WENT TO THE TRAILWAYS BUS STATION BOUGHT A

TICKET AND WENT HOME. MY GRANNY CALLED AND TOLD THEM WHERE WE WERE BUT

IT WAS OVER A YEAR BEFORE ANYONE TOLD MY MOM CAUSE SHE NEVER ASKED IF

THEY KNEW ANYTHNG NEVER CALLED THE COPS OR NOTHING. SHE HAD COME TO GET

US SO WE COULD TAKE CARE OF THE TWINS SHE HAD JUST HAD. THOSE KIDS ARE

GOING TO HATE THEIR DAD FOR THIS. NOBODY WILL HAVE TO TELL THEM HELEN

HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT THEY WILL KNOW IN THEIR HEARTS. NOT ONLY THAT

BUT HELEN HAS ALL THE PAPERS HE WILL NEED TO GET THEM IN SCHOOL. THEY

WILL TELL SOMEONE AT SCHOOL AND ALL THE TEACHERS KNOW THAT HELEN IS WHO

THEY HAVE DEALT WITH ALL THIS TIME IF THEY FEEL IT IS CREATING

EMOTIONALLY PROBLEMS THEY WILL DO SOMETING ABOUT IT. NOW DAYS WHEN

PARENTS DUMP THEIR KDS THEY DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO JUST COME BACK AND

TAKE THEM BECAUSE THEY WANT TO PLAY HOUSE FOR A WHILE. LUV U JO

                              

http://community.webtv.net/jowaca/JOSFAVORITEPICTURES

[Guest guest]

Helen, do not listen to this man!!! Everything he says is a lie!!

get some help right away, don't try to deal with this without

assistance!!

what you are feeling right now is shock! this will pass and then you

can start fighting back, okay!!

know that we love you and will be praying for you to find your way!!

robin

> Hello to all, I'm sorry but I won't be around for awhile. I am

cying my

> eyes out as I type this. The Girls Daddy came and took the girls

tonight for

> a sleep over. This was at three thirty. A little after nine he

calls and

> said He is NEVER bringing them back home ( He wants to make a

family now

> with his new girlfriend, that he has known for two and a half

months, he

> belittled me to no end, saying I was the one making the girls sick

and all my

> diseases were in my head ( I don't kow how I can go on at this

point. I

> have raised them for seven years and he has lied to me constantly

for the

> last three months ( He said that I can not see them or talk to

them until

> he desides that it will be alright. I'm cying hysterically asking

him when

> is that going to be? And he saaaid he doesn't know. But I am Not

to go to

> there house or call them. They don't have their cloths or their

favorite

> toys nothing. They don't have their meds or anything:o( I just

can't handle

> this. I may be unsubing, I don't know. My head is hurting so

hard, My heart

> has been torn out. The girls don't even know yet, he says he's

telling them

> tomorrow:o( I just can't go on right now. I having a hard time

seeing. I

> don't want the girls to think I did any of this. I Love Them So

Much.

> Sorry to you all for not answering any posts, but I just

can't.

> Please forgive me. I was told I was not raising them right. So I

will be

> quiet to all for right now. I'm a mess.

> Helen

> [unable to display image]>

>

>           I may never see tomorrow;

>       there's no written guarantee,

> And things that happened yesterday                 belong to

history!!!

> {{{Sent With Many Hugs}}}

>                  Helen

>

>      

>         

[Guest guest]

RIGHT ON JO!!! HOW WONDERFUL THAT YOU AND YOUR SIS, TOOK YOUR LIVES

IN YOUR OWN HANDS AT SUCH A YOUNG AGE!! NO WONDER YOU ARE SUCH A

SPECIAL PERSON TODAY!!

LOVE & ADMIRATION,

BIRDSONG

> KAREN MY MOM TRIED THIS WITH ME AND MY SISTER WHEN WE WERE LITTLE

AFTER

> MY DAD DIED AND SHE FOUND OUT SHE COULD DRAW A BEBEFITS CHECK ON US

BUT

> WE HAD TO LIVE IN HER HOME. WHEN SHE CAME TO GET US WE DID NOT EVEN

KNOW

> WHO SHE WAS!!! MY SISTER STILL HATES HER FOR THAT TODAY. BUT YOU

CAN NOT

> KEEP A CHILD FROM SEEING SOMEONE THEY LOVE. I WAS 7 AND MY SISTER

WAS 8

> AND MY MOM MOVED US IN WITH GRAND PARENTS. I GOT PAID SO MUCH A DAY

FOR

> CHOPPING COTTON AND FEEDING THE HOGS IT WASN;Y MUCH AND MOST OF IT

WENT

> ON CLOTHES FOR SCHOOL BUT WHAT WE GOT WE SAVED UP AND 3 MONTHS LATER

> THEY PUT US ON A BUS TO GO TO SCHOOL AND WE GOT OFF WAITED TILL MY

AUNTS

> AND UNCLES WENT THEIR OWN WAY WENT TO THE TRAILWAYS BUS STATION

BOUGHT A

> TICKET AND WENT HOME. MY GRANNY CALLED AND TOLD THEM WHERE WE WERE

BUT

> IT WAS OVER A YEAR BEFORE ANYONE TOLD MY MOM CAUSE SHE NEVER ASKED

IF

> THEY KNEW ANYTHNG NEVER CALLED THE COPS OR NOTHING. SHE HAD COME TO

GET

> US SO WE COULD TAKE CARE OF THE TWINS SHE HAD JUST HAD. THOSE KIDS

ARE

> GOING TO HATE THEIR DAD FOR THIS. NOBODY WILL HAVE TO TELL THEM

HELEN

> HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT THEY WILL KNOW IN THEIR HEARTS. NOT ONLY

THAT

> BUT HELEN HAS ALL THE PAPERS HE WILL NEED TO GET THEM IN SCHOOL.

THEY

> WILL TELL SOMEONE AT SCHOOL AND ALL THE TEACHERS KNOW THAT HELEN IS

WHO

> THEY HAVE DEALT WITH ALL THIS TIME IF THEY FEEL IT IS CREATING

> EMOTIONALLY PROBLEMS THEY WILL DO SOMETING ABOUT IT. NOW DAYS WHEN

> PARENTS DUMP THEIR KDS THEY DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO JUST COME BACK

AND

> TAKE THEM BECAUSE THEY WANT TO PLAY HOUSE FOR A WHILE. LUV U JO

>

>

>                               

>

>

>

>

> http://community.webtv.net/jowaca/JOSFAVORITEPICTURES

>

>

> Jo !! How did you get soooo wise, hon ?! VERY good advice for

Helen !!

> But I think ya might want to send it to her private, too, cause I

got a

> feeling shes not gonna be reading much mail !!! 8^)

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

THAT'S A BUNCH OF BULL.....I WOULD CALL THE POLICE...I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO SAY I HATE NOT KNOW WHAT TO SAY AT TIMES LIKE THIS..

JUST KNOW THAT I WILL PRAY FOR YOU AND YOUR GIRLS!

LUVS XOXO

NICOLE