Re: side effects of antidepressants

[Guest guest]

Jeff, thank you for this one: one of my cousins was on Paxil and nearly attempted to take

her own life--which was far greater depression than she had had prior to taking it. Love

your way, and hoping that you are doing as well as possible,

n RojasRojas5915@...

side effects of antidepressants

Side effects of antidepressants

"The main reason for people stopping a course of depression medication is the side effects of the antidepressant."

IT IS BECOMING clearer and clearer that antidepressants are far from benign drugs. And unfortunately, the combination of depression and medication, as well as still being very much trial and error, has some unique worries due to the nature of the condition itself.

As with all drugs some people react badly to antidepressants, whilst side effects can seem quite mild in others. The irony here of course is that, helpful as antidepressants may be for some people at some times, these side effects can be very depressing in themselves.

Because no one antidepressant has been proven to be any more effective than any other, the choice of which drug to prescribe often rests on their different side effects!

The overwhelming popularity of SSRIs (selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors) was in part due to their apparent "safety" over more toxic drugs when used improperly. Some of the Tricyclics are extremely toxic in overdose, such as Dothiepin, Amitriptyline and Imiprimine.

However, in addition to other dangers, there is also an established direct link between suicide and violent behaviour and the use of SSRIs. (1)

Actually, all the effects, even the desired effects, can be considered a side effect of taking a pill. The reason there are so many side effects with antidepressants, is really due to the lack of full understanding about how antidepressants, and depression, affect the brain.

This can can be very different from case to case. Even the drug companies themselves admit that they don't quite know how the drugs work! (2)

Antidepressant treatment is often very much "a sledgehammer to crack a nut", especially in cases of mild to moderate depression. Bombarding an incredibly delicate and well balanced system with external chemicals on a long-term basis is bound to create unpleasant side effects. One of the desired side effects is to change the mood of the person taking the antidepressant.

St 's Wort (hypericum) has been shown to be as effective as antidepressants, and have fewer side effects. (3,4)

General side effects of depression medication

Some of the various side effects from the different antidepressants are:

Dry mouth

Urinary retention

Blurred vision

Constipation

Sedation (can interfere with driving or operating machinery)

Sleep disruption

Weight gain

Headache

Nausea

Gastrointestinal disturbance/diarrhea

Abdominal pain

Inability to achieve an erection

Inability to achieve an orgasm (men and women)

Loss of libido

Agitation

Anxiety

See below for the side effects of specific antidepressant types.

Uncovering the new truths about SSRIs

One of the reasons that SSRIs (including Paxil, Prozac, Luvox, Zoloft, Celexa) are so widely prescribed by doctors and psychiatrists is because they are safer in overdose. This is obviously a good thing because traditionally the most common form of suicide was to overdose on the very antidepressants which were meant to help relieve the depression. However, there are two very real dangers with Sari: one that has recently been the basis of an historic court battle in the US.

SSRIs pose greater risks when taken with other drugs, due to their pharmacokinetic and pharmacodynamic properties. For example, SSRIs can be lethal when taken with MAOIs.

While being safer in overdose, SSRIs have actually been proven to increase thoughts of suicide or self harm.

Other side effects of SSRIs

Nausea, diarrhea, headaches. Sexual side effects are also common with SSRIs, such as loss of libido, failure to reach orgasm and erectile problems. Seratonergic syndrome is also a worrying condition associated with the use of SSRIs.

Side effects of TCAs (tricyclic antidepressants)

Fairly common side effects include dry mouth, blurred vision, drowsiness, dizziness, and tremors sexual problems, blurred vision, dizziness, drowsiness, skin rash, and weight gain or loss.

Side effects of MAOIs (monoamine oxidase inhibitors)

Rare side effects of MAOIs like phenelzine (brand name: Nardil) and tranylcypromine (brand name: Parnate) include liver inflammation, heart attack, stroke, and seizures.

Individuals taking MAOIs may have to be careful about eating certain smoked, fermented, or pickled foods, drinking certain beverages, or taking some medications because they can cause severe high blood pressure in combination with the medication. A range of other, less serious side effects occur including weight gain, constipation, dry mouth, dizziness, headache, drowsiness, insomnia, and sexual side effects (problems with arousal or satisfaction).

SSRIs, and SNRIs tend to have fewer and different side effects, such as nausea, nervousness, insomnia, diarrhea, rash, agitation, or sexual side effects (problems with arousal or satisfaction).

Bupropion generally causes fewer common side effects than TCAs and MAOIs. Its possible side effects include restlessness, insomnia, headache or a worsening of preexisting migraine conditions, tremor, dry mouth, agitation, confusion, rapid heartbeat, dizziness, nausea, constipation, menstrual complaints, and rash.

Bupropion (Wellbutrin) was temporarily removed from the market after its initial release due to the occurrence of seizures in some patients. However, further investigation showed that seizures were primarily associated with high doses (above the current maximum recommended dose of 450 mg/day), a history of seizures or brain trauma, an eating disorder, excessive alcohol use, or taking other drugs that can also increase the risk for seizures. With new warnings and lower recommended doses, the chance of having seizures has been greatly reduced

No information in this letter should be construed as medical advice. This information is for educational purposes only.Jeff el10360 Pine Lakes BlvdNorth Fort Myers, Fl 33903http://www.msprotocols.com/

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[Guest guest]

My neuro told me yesterday that sometimes antidepressants are used to treat fatigue too. I've been on antidepressants and been off of antidepressants and it never made a difference in my fatigue level. Sharon

Sharon I believe you will find some antidepressants actually caused the fatigue. Here is a link you all can use to look up your antidepressant ,and what they do.

http://www.pdrhealth.com/drug_info/index.html

No information in this letter should be construed as medical advice. This information is for educational purposes only.Jeff el10360 Pine Lakes BlvdNorth Fort Myers, Fl 33903http://www.msprotocols.com/See what's free at AOL.com.

[Guest guest]

Thanks so much for sharing this.I think doctors are way to eager to prescribe

anti-depressants.In my experience anyway.Just 6 mons ago I was on 20 mg. Of

paxil,then was switched to Zoloft at 50mg. And then up'd to 100 mg. I AM Not

depressed,but they dont listen.I want to scream at them it is to much! In such a

short period.The only time im depressed is when im to sick to get outa bed for 3

days,and when its like that im not thinkn about oh my lifes awful,im thinking

OMG please take my pain away,help me get enough strength to take a shower,please

let me walk to take care of my kids.Its like they want to shove them down my

throat,like they wana cover my problems with it.But they dont get the only thing

wrong in my life is that im sick as hell and they cant tell me why.And I refuse

to play the " lets see what happens " game,but then the docs always gota throw

sumthn in to delay me getting a dx,so I guess they think an antidepressant along

with all my other meds will make me

better.Who knows what they think.lol.

[jeffAfrankel@...] wrote:

Side effects of antidepressants

" The main reason for people stopping a course of depression medication is

the side effects of the antidepressant. "

IT IS BECOMING clearer and clearer that antidepressants are far from benign

drugs. And unfortunately, the combination of depression and medication, as

well as still being very much trial and error, has some unique worries due to

the nature of the condition itself.

As with all drugs some people react badly to antidepressants, whilst side

effects can seem quite mild in others. The irony here of course is that,

helpful as antidepressants may be for some people at some times, these side

effects

can be very depressing in themselves.

Because no one antidepressant has been proven to be any more effective than

any other, the choice of which drug to prescribe often rests on their

different side effects!

The overwhelming popularity of SSRIs (selective serotonin reuptake

inhibitors) was in part due to their apparent " safety " over more toxic drugs

when used

improperly. Some of the Tricyclics are extremely toxic in overdose, such as

Dothiepin, Amitriptyline and Imiprimine.

However, in addition to other dangers, there is also an established direct

link between suicide and violent behaviour and the use of SSRIs. (1)

Actually, all the effects, even the desired effects, can be considered a

side effect of taking a pill. The reason there are so many side effects with

antidepressants, is really due to the lack of full understanding about how

antidepressants, and depression, affect the brain.

This can can be very different from case to case. Even the drug companies

themselves admit that they don't quite know how the drugs work! (2)

Antidepressant treatment is often very much " a sledgehammer to crack a nut " ,

especially in cases of mild to moderate depression. Bombarding an incredibly

delicate and well balanced system with external chemicals on a long-term

basis is bound to create unpleasant side effects. One of the desired side

effects is to change the mood of the person taking the antidepressant.

_St 's Wort_ (http://www.clinical-depression.co.uk/faq/herbal.htm)

(hypericum) has been shown to be as effective as antidepressants, and have fewer

side effects. (3,4)

General side effects of depression medication

Some of the various side effects from the different antidepressants are:

* Dry mouth

* Urinary retention

* Blurred vision

* Constipation

* Sedation (can interfere with driving or operating machinery)

* Sleep disruption

* Weight gain

* Headache

* Nausea

* Gastrointestinal disturbance/diarrhea

* Abdominal pain

* Inability to achieve an erection

* Inability to achieve an orgasm (men and women)

* Loss of libido

* Agitation

* Anxiety

See below for the side effects of specific antidepressant types.

Uncovering the new truths....

[Guest guest]

My neuro told me yesterday that sometimes antidepressants are used to treat fatigue too. I've been on antidepressants and been off of antidepressants and it never made a difference in my fatigue level. Sharon Re: side effects of antidepressants

Thanks so much for sharing this.I think doctors are way to eager to prescribe anti-depressants. In my experience anyway.Just 6 mons ago I was on 20 mg. Of paxil,then was switched to Zoloft at 50mg. And then up'd to 100 mg. I AM Not depressed,but they dont listen.I want to scream at them it is to much! In such a short period.The only time im depressed is when im to sick to get outa bed for 3 days,and when its like that im not thinkn about oh my lifes awful,im thinking OMG please take my pain away,help me get enough strength to take a shower,please let me walk to take care of my kids.Its like they want to shove them down my throat,like they wana cover my problems with it.But they dont get the only thing wrong in my life is that im sick as hell and they cant tell me why.And I refuse to play the "lets see what happens"game, but then the docs always gota throw sumthn in to delay me getting a dx,so I guess they think an antidepressant along with all my other meds

will make me

better.Who knows what they think.lol.

[jeffAfrankel@ aol.com] wrote:

Side effects of antidepressants

"The main reason for people stopping a course of depression medication is

the side effects of the antidepressant. "

IT IS BECOMING clearer and clearer that antidepressants are far from benign

drugs. And unfortunately, the combination of depression and medication, as

well as still being very much trial and error, has some unique worries due to

the nature of the condition itself.

As with all drugs some people react badly to antidepressants, whilst side

effects can seem quite mild in others. The irony here of course is that,

helpful as antidepressants may be for some people at some times, these side effects

can be very depressing in themselves.

Because no one antidepressant has been proven to be any more effective than

any other, the choice of which drug to prescribe often rests on their

different side effects!

The overwhelming popularity of SSRIs (selective serotonin reuptake

inhibitors) was in part due to their apparent "safety" over more toxic drugs when used

improperly. Some of the Tricyclics are extremely toxic in overdose, such as

Dothiepin, Amitriptyline and Imiprimine.

However, in addition to other dangers, there is also an established direct

link between suicide and violent behaviour and the use of SSRIs. (1)

Actually, all the effects, even the desired effects, can be considered a

side effect of taking a pill. The reason there are so many side effects with

antidepressants, is really due to the lack of full understanding about how

antidepressants, and depression, affect the brain.

This can can be very different from case to case. Even the drug companies

themselves admit that they don't quite know how the drugs work! (2)

Antidepressant treatment is often very much "a sledgehammer to crack a nut",

especially in cases of mild to moderate depression. Bombarding an incredibly

delicate and well balanced system with external chemicals on a long-term

basis is bound to create unpleasant side effects. One of the desired side

effects is to change the mood of the person taking the antidepressant.

_St 's Wort_ (http://www.clinical -depression. co.uk/faq/ herbal.htm)

(hypericum) has been shown to be as effective as antidepressants, and have fewer

side effects. (3,4)

General side effects of depression medication

Some of the various side effects from the different antidepressants are:

* Dry mouth

* Urinary retention

* Blurred vision

* Constipation

* Sedation (can interfere with driving or operating machinery)

* Sleep disruption

* Weight gain

* Headache

* Nausea

* Gastrointestinal disturbance/ diarrhea

* Abdominal pain

* Inability to achieve an erection

* Inability to achieve an orgasm (men and women)

* Loss of libido

* Agitation

* Anxiety

See below for the side effects of specific antidepressant types.

Uncovering the new truths....

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I always refuse the antidepressant offerings from Doctor's. I agree that they push them way too much! I used to be on them years ago and found them to be of no use nor did they make any difference physically for me. I find Holistic Therapies and an MS mental health professional far More effective....for me, everyone is different and should do what is most comfortable for them. However,I do take Klonipin for my spacticity, which is in the anti anxiety family, and this helps me physically very much, and with other symptoms too. Candace ndra workmn wrote: I have been on and off a few times to.I was jus thinkn that maybe them doin a switch a roo with mine and high increase,that maybe its causing more harm than good?Like with some of my symptoms worsening .I dont know it never occurs to them but I feel fine either way,you know like the same as if I wernt on anything.But I have alot of the symptom side effects already as symptoms so im gona talk to my doc and see if maybe it contributing more problems.What do you think?Im tired either way,with or without em makes no difference.I think there jus tryn to "see" if it helps.[wobbletowalk] wrote:My neuro told me yesterday that sometimes antidepressants are used to treat fatigue too. I've been on antidepressants and been off of antidepressants and it never

made a difference in my fatigue level. Sharon Re: side effects of antidepressantsThanks so much for sharing this.I think doctors are way to eager to prescribe anti-depressants. In my experience anyway.Just 6 mons ago I was on 20 mg. Of paxil,then was switched to Zoloft at 50mg. And then up'd to 100 mg. I AM Not depressed,but they dont listen.I want to scream at them it is to much! In such a short period.The only time im depressed is when im to sick to get outa bed for 3 days,and when its like that im not thinkn about oh my lifes awful,im thinking OMG please take my pain away,help me get enough strength to take a shower,please let me walk to take care of my kids.Its like

they want to shove them down my throat,like they wana cover my problems with it.But they dont get the only thing wrong in my life is that im sick as hell and they cant tell me why.And I refuse to play the "lets see what happens"game, but then the docs always gota throw sumthn in to delay me getting a dx,so I guess they think an antidepressant along with all my other meds willmake mebetter.Who knows what they think.lol.[jeffAfrankel@ aol.com] wrote:Side effects of antidepressants "The main reason for people stopping a course of depression medication is the side effects of the antidepressant. "IT IS BECOMING clearer and clearer that antidepressants are far from benign drugs. And unfortunately, the combination of depression and medication, as well as still being very much trial and error, has some unique worries due to the nature of the condition itself. As with all drugs some people react

badly to antidepressants, whilst side effects can seem quite mild in others. The irony here of course is that, helpful as antidepressants may be for some people at some times, these side effects can be very depressing in themselves. Because no one antidepressant has been proven to be any more effective than any other, the choice of which drug to prescribe often rests on their different side effects! The overwhelming popularity of SSRIs (selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors) was in part due to their apparent "safety" over more toxic drugs when used improperly. Some of the Tricyclics are extremely toxic in overdose, such as Dothiepin, Amitriptyline and Imiprimine. However, in addition to other dangers, there is also an established direct link between suicide and violent behaviour and the use of SSRIs. (1) Actually, all the effects, even the desired effects, can be

considered a side effect of taking a pill. The reason there are so many side effects with.... Candace H. Calver-Lori

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Hi Candace,thanks for sharing.I am not yet dx'd,and every doc or specialist I

see has a new recomendation,I have been to eager to follow thinking I will be

diagnosed anyday and will be able to go off.I had aggreed with my doc to stay on

a low dose of something Till I knew what I was up against,but I think I will be

in limboland for awile.I feel it is up to me to decide what to take.A few mons

ago I seen a specialist at Ucsf and when I was telling him about my newest

symptoms I started crying so he upd the zoloft to 100(i was taking 50,and he

said that was a pediatric dose) then he said he recomends I meet with a

psychologist to talk about my symptoms,and increasing disability.Of course later

when I get the report he put on it im severly depressed.Im like ok,well thanks

for letting me know.Lol.Im going to have my pcp start the referal to a

psychologist,so I can talk to someone,without taking meds for it,and then maybe

they can put in that report this lady is not

depressed,she is sick and needs help! Lol.

[ccalverlori@...] wrote:

I always refuse the antidepressant offerings from Doctor's. I agree that they

push them way too much! I used to be on them years ago and found them to be of

no use nor did they make any difference physically for me. I find Holistic

Therapies and an MS mental health professional far More effective....for me,

everyone is different and should do what is most comfortable for them.

However,I do take Klonipin for my spacticity, which is in the anti anxiety

family, and this helps me physically very much, and with other symptoms too.

Candace

ndra workmn wrote:

I have been on and off a few times to.I was jus thinkn that maybe them

doin a switch a roo with mine and high increase,that maybe its causing more harm

than good?Like with some of my symptoms worsening .I dont know it never occurs

to them but I feel fine either way,you know like the same as if I wernt on

anything.But I have alot of the symptom side effects already as symptoms so im

gona talk to my doc and see if maybe it contributing more problems.What do you

think?Im tired either way,with or without em makes no difference.I think there

jus tryn to " see " if it helps.

[wobbletowalk@...] wrote:

My neuro told me yesterday that sometimes antidepressants are used to treat

fatigue too. I've been on antidepressants and been off of antidepressants and it

never made a difference in my fatigue level.

Sharon

Re: side effects of antidepressants

Thanks so much for sharing this.I think doctors are way to eager to prescribe

anti-depressants. In my experience anyway.Just 6 mons ago I was on 20 mg. Of

paxil,then was switched to Zoloft at 50mg. And then up'd to 100 mg. I AM Not

depressed,but they dont listen.I want to scream at them it is to much! In such a

short period.The only time im depressed is when im to sick to get outa bed for 3

days,and when its like that im not thinkn about oh my lifes awful,im thinking

OMG please take my pain away,help me get enough strength to take a shower,please

let me walk to take care of my kids.Its like they want to shove them down my

throat,like they wana cover my problems with it.But they dont get the only thing

wrong in my life is that im sick as hell and they cant tell me why.And I refuse

to play the " lets see what happens " game, but then the docs always gota throw

sumthn in to delay me getting a dx,so I guess they think an antidepressant along

with all my other meds will

make me

better.Who knows what they think.lol.

[jeffAfrankel@ aol.com] wrote:

Side effects of antidepressants

" The main reason for people stopping a course of depression medication is

the side effects of the antidepressant. "

IT IS BECOMING clearer and clearer that antidepressants are far from benign

drugs. And unfortunately, the combination of depression and medication, as....

[Guest guest]

Sweetie, just because they prescribe it does not mean you have to TAKE it. If I took all the junk they've prescribed for me I'd be even more of a drooling idiot then I am! As of a few days ago I am not taking ANY prescribed meds, it is all done with supplements and vitamins. I might go back on Actos, only for blood sugars. I don't want to go back on metformin, I've read some nasty things about it, but the Actos is also under study for MS so that's a double whammy

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Thanks so much for sharing this.I think doctors are way to eager to prescribe anti-depressants.In my experience anyway.Just 6 mons ago I was on 20 mg. Of paxil,then was switched to Zoloft at 50mg. And then up'd to 100 mg. I AM Not depressed,but they dont listen.I want to scream at them it is to much! In such a short period.The only time im depressed is when im to sick to get outa bed for 3 days,and when its like that im not thinkn about oh my lifes awful,im thinking OMG please take my pain away,help me get enough strength to take a shower,please let me walk to take care of my kids.Its like they want to shove them down my throat,like they wana cover my problems with it.But they dont get the only thing wrong in my life is that im sick as hell and they cant tell me why.And I refuse to play the "lets see what happens"game,but then the docs always gota throw sumthn in to delay me getting a dx,so I guess they think an antidepressant along with all my other meds will make mebetter.Who knows what they think.lol.[jeffAfrankelaol] wrote:Side effects of antidepressants "The main reason for people stopping a course of depression medication is the side effects of the antidepressant."IT IS BECOMING clearer and clearer that antidepressants are far from benign drugs. And unfortunately, the combination of depression and medication, as well as still being very much trial and error, has some unique worries due to the nature of the condition itself. As with all drugs some people react badly to antidepressants, whilst side effects can seem quite mild in others. The irony here of course is that, helpful as antidepressants may be for some people at some times, these side effects can be very depressing in themselves. Because no one antidepressant has been proven to be any more effective than any other, the choice of which drug to prescribe often rests on their different side effects! The overwhelming popularity of SSRIs (selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors) was in part due to their apparent "safety" over more toxic drugs when used improperly. Some of the Tricyclics are extremely toxic in overdose, such as Dothiepin, Amitriptyline and Imiprimine. However, in addition to other dangers, there is also an established direct link between suicide and violent behaviour and the use of SSRIs. (1) Actually, all the effects, even the desired effects, can be considered a side effect of taking a pill. The reason there are so many side effects with antidepressants, is really due to the lack of full understanding about how antidepressants, and depression, affect the brain. This can can be very different from case to case. Even the drug companies themselves admit that they don't quite know how the drugs work! (2) Antidepressant treatment is often very much "a sledgehammer to crack a nut", especially in cases of mild to moderate depression. Bombarding an incredibly delicate and well balanced system with external chemicals on a long-term basis is bound to create unpleasant side effects. One of the desired side effects is to change the mood of the person taking the antidepressant. _St 's Wort_ (http://www.clinical-depression.co.uk/faq/herbal.htm) (hypericum) has been shown to be as effective as antidepressants, and have fewer side effects. (3,4) General side effects of depression medicationSome of the various side effects from the different antidepressants are: * Dry mouth* Urinary retention * Blurred vision* Constipation * Sedation (can interfere with driving or operating machinery)* Sleep disruption* Weight gain* Headache* Nausea* Gastrointestinal disturbance/diarrhea* Abdominal pain* Inability to achieve an erection* Inability to achieve an orgasm (men and women)* Loss of libido* Agitation* AnxietySee below for the side effects of specific antidepressant types. Uncovering the new truths....

[Guest guest]

It seems that people have problems more with Paxil or Wellbutrin but some people tolerate it very well. I was on Zoloft and it worked great until it stopped working. Then I was on Prozac and that worked great. I was able to stop it in 2004 but when I started having such severe nocturnal spasms and leg pain in the winter of 2005/2006 I was thankful my doctor suggested Cymbalta. It's an anti-depressant and also works on diabetic neuropathy. I don't have diabetes but my nocturnal leg pain is similar. It was a miracle for me. Before I started on Cymbalta I was in the worst pain you could imagine and I would wake up crying night after night, dreaming about suicide. It was the worst period of my life.

Cymbalta has taken the pain down to half of what it was and LDN has taken it down further. Each person is different and we need different therapies. I wish natural therapies would always work. I am, however, very thankful for the medications that let me lead the life I am able to lead. Klonopin helps me too. I take it in combination with Baclofen to keep the spasms and spasticity at a livable level.Sharon Re: side effects of antidepressantsThanks so much for sharing this.I think doctors are way to eager to prescribe anti-depressants. In my experience anyway.Just 6 mons ago I was on 20 mg. Of paxil,then was switched to Zoloft at 50mg. And then up'd to 100 mg. I AM Not depressed,but they dont listen.I want to scream at them it is to much! In such a short period.The only time im depressed is when im to sick to get outa bed for 3 days,and when its like that im not thinkn about oh my lifes awful,im thinking OMG please take my pain away,help me get enough strength to take a shower,please let me walk to take care of my kids.Its like they want to shove them down my throat,like they wana cover my problems with it.But they dont get

the only thing wrong in my life is that im sick as hell and they cant tell me why.And I refuse to play the "lets see what happens"game, but then the docs always gota throw sumthn in to delay me getting a dx,so I guess they think an antidepressant along with all my other meds willmake mebetter.Who knows what they think.lol.[jeffAfrankel@ aol.com] wrote:Side effects of antidepressants "The main reason for people stopping a course of depression medication is the side effects of the antidepressant. "IT IS BECOMING clearer and clearer that antidepressants are far from benign drugs. And unfortunately, the combination of depression and medication, as well as still being very much trial and error, has some unique worries due to the nature of the condition itself. As with all drugs some people react badly to antidepressants, whilst side effects can seem quite mild in others. The irony here

of course is that, helpful as antidepressants may be for some people at some times, these side effects can be very depressing in themselves. Because no one antidepressant has been proven to be any more effective than any other, the choice of which drug to prescribe often rests on their different side effects! The overwhelming popularity of SSRIs (selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors) was in part due to their apparent "safety" over more toxic drugs when used improperly. Some of the Tricyclics are extremely toxic in overdose, such as Dothiepin, Amitriptyline and Imiprimine. However, in addition to other dangers, there is also an established direct link between suicide and violent behaviour and the use of SSRIs. (1) Actually, all the effects, even the desired effects, can be considered a side effect of taking a pill. The reason there are so many side effects

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[Guest guest]

Paxil was a nightmare for me. I was on it for several years, and could not get off, because of withdrawal any time I even tapered down a little. Finally I was able to start Zoloft, and go off Paxil. I was having withdrawal sx's for almost 3 months after stopping the Paxil. I was a part of the lawsuit against the company that makes it. I have to say that I am scared every time I try a new drug, because of the hell that Paxil put me through for years.

I am thankful for this group, because I never would have heard of LDN, or Cymbalta. I plan on researching Cymbalta and discussing it with my Dr.

Sharon, I am so glad that you are doing so well on it. I remember how miserable it was for you with your leg pain at night.

Hugs, Trista

Re: side effects of antidepressants

It seems that people have problems more with Paxil or Wellbutrin but some people tolerate it very well. I was on Zoloft and it worked great until it stopped working. Then I was on Prozac and that worked great. I was able to stop it in 2004 but when I started having such severe nocturnal spasms and leg pain in the winter of 2005/2006 I was thankful my doctor suggested Cymbalta. It's an anti-depressant and also works on diabetic neuropathy. I don't have diabetes but my nocturnal leg pain is similar. It was a miracle for me. Before I started on Cymbalta I was in the worst pain you could imagine and I would wake up crying night after night, dreaming about suicide. It was the worst period of my life. Cymbalta has taken the pain down to half of what it was and LDN has taken it down further. Each person is different and we need different therapies. I wish natural therapies would always work. I am, however, very thankful for the medications that let me lead the life I am able to lead. Klonopin helps me too. I take it in combination with Baclofen to keep the spasms and spasticity at a livable level.Sharon

..

[Guest guest]

Hey Trista,You had a suit against the makers of paxil?Was it because of the side

effects?I took it a few yrs.had tapered from 40 to 20 to 10 then back to 20,then

my neuro switched me to zoloft,didnt even taper me off paxil.I remember though

yrs. Back when I first took paxil,I quit cuz I was pregnant,Then I went threw

hell with withdrawl effects,worse then smoking.I think the docs are messn to

much with those anti depressants on me.Then I was switched from 50 mg.of zoloft

to 100.Im wondering what it could be doing to my body.I dont feel depressed,so I

want to wean off.It just scares me,with all my symptoms then the effects of the

meds.Like it could be worsening my symptoms cuz alot of the side effects I

already have as symptoms.What do ya'll think?

[tabeloe@...] wrote:

Paxil was a nightmare for me. I was on it for several years, and could not get

off, because of withdrawal any time I even tapered down a little. Finally I was

able to start Zoloft, and go off Paxil. I was having withdrawal sx's for almost

3 months after stopping the Paxil. I was a part of the lawsuit against the

company that makes it. I have to say that I am scared every time I try a new

drug, because of the hell that Paxil put me through for years.

I am thankful for this group, because I never would have heard of LDN, or

Cymbalta. I plan on researching Cymbalta and discussing it with my Dr.

Sharon, I am so glad that you are doing so well on it. I remember how miserable

it was for you with your leg pain at night.

Hugs, Trista

Re: side effects of antidepressants

It seems that people have problems more with Paxil or Wellbutrin but some

people tolerate it very well. I was on Zoloft and it worked great until it

stopped working. Then I was on Prozac and that worked great. I was able to

stop it in 2004 but when I started having such severe nocturnal spasms and leg

pain in the winter of 2005/2006 I was thankful my doctor suggested Cymbalta.

It's an anti-depressant and also works on diabetic neuropathy. I don't have

diabetes but my nocturnal leg pain is similar. It was a miracle for me. Before

I started on Cymbalta I was in the worst pain you could imagine and I would wake

up crying night after night, dreaming about suicide. It was the worst period of

my life. Cymbalta has taken the pain down to half of what it was and LDN has

taken it down further.

Each person is different and we need different therapies. I wish natural

therapies would always work. I am, however, very thankful for the medications

that let me lead the life I am able to lead.

Klonopin helps me too. I take it in combination with Baclofen to keep the

spasms and spasticity at a livable level.

Sharon

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What are you taking Holistic for antidepressant? Does the Klonipin ever give you a headache or confusion? Wondering, I only used Klonipin when I was stressed. Especially during my divorce time. The only thing I really noticed was the dreaming, which was really weird. I never took Klonipin during the day only at night at bedtime.

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Trista, I'm on 30mg of Cymbalta, and they are working great for me. I tried the 60mg, but for me they are too strong. the 30s really take the edge off my leg pains and help alot with my attitude and mood swings. The only thing is that they are not cheap, but I'm on Medicare and have part D so that really helps.BlessingsChuckTrista wrote: Paxil was a nightmare for me. I was on it

for several years, and could not get off, because of withdrawal any time I even tapered down a little. Finally I was able to start Zoloft, and go off Paxil. I was having withdrawal sx's for almost 3 months after stopping the Paxil. I was a part of the lawsuit against the company that makes it. I have to say that I am scared every time I try a new drug, because of the hell that Paxil put me through for years. I am thankful for this group, because I never would have heard of LDN, or Cymbalta. I plan on researching Cymbalta and discussing it with my Dr. Sharon, I am so glad that you are doing so well on it. I remember how miserable it was for you with your leg pain at night. Hugs, Trista Re: side effects of antidepressants It seems that people have problems more with Paxil or Wellbutrin but some people tolerate it very well. I was on Zoloft and it worked great until it stopped working. Then I was on

Prozac and that worked great. I was able to stop it in 2004 but when I started having such severe nocturnal spasms and leg pain in the winter of 2005/2006 I was thankful my doctor suggested Cymbalta. It's an anti-depressant and also works on diabetic neuropathy. I don't have diabetes but my nocturnal leg pain is similar. It was a miracle for me. Before I started on Cymbalta I was in the worst pain you could imagine and I would wake up crying night after night, dreaming about suicide. It was the worst period of my life. Cymbalta has taken the pain down to half of what it was and LDN has taken it down further. Each person is different and we need different therapies. I wish natural therapies would always work. I am, however, very thankful for the medications that let me lead the life I am able to lead. Klonopin helps me too. I take it in combination with Baclofen to keep the spasms and spasticity at a livable level.Sharon . Love and friendship builds a bridge that spans forever.c.f.s.

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I took Zoloft for a few years and no way would I ever consider taking it again - EVER !!!! It made me suicidal. Prozac was worse - nearly got arrested because of what it did to me (I got VERY easily agitated and violent). Come hell or high water, I would never try any anti-depressant again

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It seems that people have problems more with Paxil or Wellbutrin but some people tolerate it very well. I was on Zoloft and it worked great until it stopped working. Then I was on Prozac and that worked great. I was able to stop it in 2004 but when I started having such severe nocturnal spasms and leg pain in the winter of 2005/2006 I was thankful my doctor suggested Cymbalta. It's an anti-depressant and also works on diabetic neuropathy. I don't have diabetes but my nocturnal leg pain is similar. It was a miracle for me. Before I started on Cymbalta I was in the worst pain you could imagine and I would wake up crying night after night, dreaming about suicide. It was the worst period of my life. Cymbalta has taken the pain down to half of what it was and LDN has taken it down further. Each person is different and we need different therapies. I wish natural therapies would always work. I am, however, very thankful for the medications that let me lead the life I am able to lead.

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Chuck,

The Zoloft is working well, but I just figured why not get a "two-fer" since it works on pain too. lol. I wonder if I can take it with Elavil. I take that for pain too, every night before bed.

I'm glad it is working so well for you. Blessings to you also.

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It seems that people have problems more with Paxil or Wellbutrin but some people tolerate it very well. I was on Zoloft and it worked great until it stopped working. Then I was on Prozac and that worked great. I was able to stop it in 2004 but when I started having such severe nocturnal spasms and leg pain in the winter of 2005/2006 I was thankful my doctor suggested Cymbalta. It's an anti-depressant and also works on diabetic neuropathy. I don't have diabetes but my nocturnal leg pain is similar. It was a miracle for me. Before I started on Cymbalta I was in the worst pain you could imagine and I would wake up crying night after night, dreaming about suicide. It was the worst period of my life. Cymbalta has taken the pain down to half of what it was and LDN has taken it down further. Each person is different and we need different therapies. I wish natural therapies would always work. I am, however, very thankful for the medications that let me lead the life I am able to lead. Klonopin helps me too. I take it in combination with Baclofen to keep the spasms and spasticity at a livable level.Sharon

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What are you taking Holistic for antidepressant? Does the Klonipin ever give you a headache or confusion? Wondering, Candace Calver-Lori wrote: I always refuse the antidepressant offerings from Doctor's. I agree that they push them way too much! I used to be on them years ago and found them to be of no use nor did they make any difference physically for me. I find Holistic Therapies and an MS mental health professional far More

effective....for me, everyone is different and should do what is most comfortable for them. However,I do take Klonipin for my spacticity, which is in the anti anxiety family, and this helps me physically very much, and with other symptoms too. Candace ndra workmn <payngabby72> wrote: I have been on and off a few times to.I was jus thinkn that maybe them doin a switch a roo with mine and high increase,that maybe its causing more harm than good?Like with some of my symptoms worsening .I dont know it never occurs to them but I feel fine either way,you know like the same as if I wernt on anything.But I have alot of the symptom side effects already as symptoms so im gona talk to my doc and see if maybe it contributing more

problems.What do you think?Im tired either way,with or without em makes no difference.I think there jus tryn to "see" if it helps.[wobbletowalk] wrote:My neuro told me yesterday that sometimes antidepressants are used to treat fatigue too. I've been on antidepressants and been off of antidepressants and it never made a difference in my fatigue level. Sharon Re: side effects of antidepressantsThanks so much for sharing this.I think doctors are way to eager to prescribe anti-depressants. In my experience anyway.Just 6 mons ago I was on 20 mg. Of paxil,then was switched to Zoloft at 50mg. And then

up'd to 100 mg. I AM Not depressed,but they dont listen.I want to scream at them it is to much! In such a short period.The only time im depressed is when im to sick to get outa bed for 3 days,and when its like that im not thinkn about oh my lifes awful,im thinking OMG please take my pain away,help me get enough strength to take a shower,please let me walk to take care of my kids.Its like they want to shove them down my throat,like they wana cover my problems with it.But they dont get the only thing wrong in my life is that im sick as hell and they cant tell me why.And I refuse to play the "lets see what happens"game, but then the docs always gota throw sumthn in to delay me getting a dx,so I guess they think an antidepressant along with all my other meds willmake mebetter.Who knows what they think.lol.[jeffAfrankel@ aol.com] wrote:Side effects of antidepressants "The main reason for people stopping a course of depression medication is

the side effects of the antidepressant. "IT IS BECOMING clearer and clearer that antidepressants are far from benign drugs. And unfortunately, the combination of depression and medication, as well as still being very much trial and error, has some unique worries due to the nature of the condition itself. As with all drugs some people react badly to antidepressants, whilst side effects can seem quite mild in others. The irony here of course is that, helpful as antidepressants may be for some people at some times, these side effects can be very depressing in themselves. Because no one antidepressant has been proven to be any more effective than any other, the choice of which drug to prescribe often rests on their different side effects! The overwhelming popularity of SSRIs (selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors) was in part due to their apparent "safety" over

more toxic drugs when used improperly. Some of the Tricyclics are extremely toxic in overdose, such as Dothiepin, Amitriptyline and Imiprimine. However, in addition to other dangers, there is also an established direct link between suicide and violent behaviour and the use of SSRIs. (1) Actually, all the effects, even the desired effects, can be considered a side effect of taking a pill. The reason there are so many side effects with.... Candace H. Calver-Lori Don't pick lemons.See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo!

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Yep, I was in a huge lawsuit with a lot of other people. It took about 4 years before they settled. I'm not allowed to "discuss it". lol.

It stopped working for me, and when I tried going off I had a lot of sx's. The dizziness was the worst. I couldn't even stand up. I didn't have the side effects during taking it so much, mostly when I tried weaning. It disgusted me. I felt like an addict coming off drugs.

I don't have any sx's from the Zoloft. And if I miss doses, I don't get withdrawal sx's either. It works well for me. I am on 100 mg. I think you'll find that some of these drugs will affect you in a negative way, but others won't. Prozac was a nightmare for me. My insurance decided they didn't want to cover the Paxil, so the Dr. switched me to Prozac. One pill had me rocking back and forth, crying uncontrollably. I had to call my mom to come watch the boys, because I was afraid I might hurt them. Another friend came and took me to the Dr. It was really scary.

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Hey Trista,You had a suit against the makers of paxil?Was it because of the side effects?I took it a few yrs.had tapered from 40 to 20 to 10 then back to 20,then my neuro switched me to zoloft,didnt even taper me off paxil.I remember though yrs. Back when I first took paxil,I quit cuz I was pregnant,Then I went threw hell with withdrawl effects,worse then smoking.I think the docs are messn to much with those anti depressants on me.Then I was switched from 50 mg.of zoloft to 100.Im wondering what it could be doing to my body.I dont feel depressed,so I want to wean off.It just scares me,with all my symptoms then the effects of the meds.Like it could be worsening my symptoms cuz alot of the side effects I already have as symptoms.What do ya'll think?[

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When I went to the SS phycoligist he wrote that I was border line bi-polar...........? Hummmm, well he apperently knows some thing more then the other docs. LOL The only reason he said it was cause....when I was trying to remember the numbers backwards test, i couldn't remember all of them and it upset me, I started crying. I am very good at numbers, but had a stressfull couple of days before my appointment with him, and I had just changed my anti-depressant a few days before too. He is also one of these doc's that thinks there is a pill for everything and why should I be upset I only have MS, (sarcasticly said). But when I went in front of the judge for my hearing for my SS, with what that doc wrote made it very clear to the judge and expert-vocational person that I could not function in a job any more. So I was approved for my SS, so in the long run he helped me win my case. Even though I still haven't ghotten a check yet, I won.... YEAH. Still broke,

cassandra workmn wrote: Hi Candace,thanks for sharing.I am not yet dx'd,and every doc or specialist I see has a new recomendation,I have been to eager to follow thinking I will be diagnosed anyday and will be able to go off.I had aggreed with my doc to stay on a low dose of something Till I knew what I was up against,but I think I will be in limboland for awile.I feel it is up to me to decide what to take.A few mons ago I seen a specialist at Ucsf and when I was telling him

about my newest symptoms I started crying so he upd the zoloft to 100(i was taking 50,and he said that was a pediatric dose) then he said he recomends I meet with a psychologist to talk about my symptoms,and increasing disability.Of course later when I get the report he put on it im severly depressed.Im like ok,well thanks for letting me know.Lol.Im going to have my pcp start the referal to a psychologist,so I can talk to someone,without taking meds for it,and then maybe they can put in that report this lady is notdepressed,she is sick and needs help! Lol.[ccalverlori] wrote:I always refuse the antidepressant offerings from Doctor's. I agree that they push them way too much! I used to be on them years ago and found them to be of no use nor did they make any difference physically for me. I find Holistic Therapies and an MS mental health professional far More effective....for me, everyone

is different and should do what is most comfortable for them. However,I do take Klonipin for my spacticity, which is in the anti anxiety family, and this helps me physically very much, and with other symptoms too.Candacendra workmn <payngabby72> wrote: I have been on and off a few times to.I was jus thinkn that maybe them doin a switch a roo with mine and high increase,that maybe its causing more harm than good?Like with some of my symptoms worsening .I dont know it never occurs to them but I feel fine either way,you know like the same as if I wernt on anything.But I have alot of the symptom side effects already as symptoms so im gona talk to my doc and see if maybe it contributing more problems.What do you think?Im tired either way,with or without em makes no difference.I think there jus tryn to "see" if it helps.[wobbletowalk] wrote:My neuro told me yesterday that sometimes antidepressants are used to treat fatigue too. I've been on antidepressants and been off of antidepressants and it never made a difference in my fatigue level. Sharon Re: side effects of antidepressantsThanks so much for sharing this.I think doctors are way to eager to prescribe anti-depressants. In my experience anyway.Just 6 mons ago I was on 20 mg. Of paxil,then was switched to Zoloft at 50mg. And then up'd to 100 mg. I AM Not depressed,but they dont listen.I want to scream at them it is to much! In such a short period.The only time im depressed

is when im to sick to get outa bed for 3 days,and when its like that im not thinkn about oh my lifes awful,im thinking OMG please take my pain away,help me get enough strength to take a shower,please let me walk to take care of my kids.Its like they want to shove them down my throat,like they wana cover my problems with it.But they dont get the only thing wrong in my life is that im sick as hell and they cant tell me why.And I refuse to play the "lets see what happens"game, but then the docs always gota throw sumthn in to delay me getting a dx,so I guess they think an antidepressant along with all my other meds willmake mebetter.Who knows what they think.lol.[jeffAfrankel@ aol.com] wrote:Side effects of antidepressants "The main reason for people stopping a course of depression medication is the side effects of the antidepressant. "IT IS BECOMING clearer and clearer that antidepressants are far from benign drugs.

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How scary a.These anti-depressants are pretty strong,I think some are just

effected more than others.Do the docs ever say they think your depressed?Do you

decline the meds or? JUST curious,im tired of bein on em im thinkn what if I

stopped maybe Id feel a lil better,I dunno.But all you sharing your experience

helps alot.thanks so much. hugz,cassy

[paulacoon@...] wrote:

I took Zoloft for a few years and no way would I ever consider taking it again -

EVER !!!! It made me suicidal. Prozac was worse - nearly got arrested because

of what it did to me (I got VERY easily agitated and violent). Come hell or high

water, I would never try any anti-depressant again

a ...... in Michigan

It seems that people have problems more with Paxil or Wellbutrin but some people

tolerate it very well. I was on Zoloft and it worked great until it stopped

working. Then I was on Prozac and that worked great. I was able to stop it

in 2004 but when I started having such severe nocturnal spasms and leg pain in

the winter of 2005/2006 I was thankful my doctor suggested Cymbalta. It's an

anti-depressant and also works on diabetic neuropathy. I don't have diabetes

but my nocturnal leg pain is similar. It was a miracle for me. Before I

started on Cymbalta I was in the worst pain you could imagine and I would wake

up crying night after night, dreaming about suicide. It was the worst period of

my life. Cymbalta has taken the pain down to half of what it was and LDN has

taken it down further.

Each person is different and we need different therapies. I wish natural

therapies would always work. I am, however, very thankful for the medications

that let me lead the life I am able to lead.

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I was on Cymbalta for a few months, I can't remember why the doc took me off of it.....(memory problems). My sister is on it and she has been on just about everything out there, she lost her daughter who was age 12, 18 years ago, she has never been mentally stable since. (not that I blame her) But she says Cymbalta is the best she has ever been on, she is the one that has RLG too. Trying to think, Trista wrote: Paxil was a nightmare for me. I was on it for several years, and could not get off, because of withdrawal any time I even tapered down a little. Finally I was able to start Zoloft, and go off Paxil. I was having withdrawal sx's for almost 3 months after stopping the Paxil. I was a part of the lawsuit against the company that makes it. I have to say that I am scared every time I try a new drug, because of the hell that Paxil put me through for years. I am thankful for this group, because I never would have heard of LDN, or Cymbalta. I plan on researching Cymbalta and discussing it with my Dr. Sharon, I am so glad that you are doing so well on it. I remember how miserable it was for you with your leg pain at night. Hugs, Trista Re: side effects of antidepressants It seems that people have problems more with Paxil or Wellbutrin but some people tolerate it very well. I was on Zoloft

and it worked great until it stopped working. Then I was on Prozac and that worked great. I was able to stop it in 2004 but when I started having such severe nocturnal spasms and leg pain in the winter of 2005/2006 I was thankful my doctor suggested Cymbalta. It's an anti-depressant and also works on diabetic neuropathy. I don't have diabetes but my nocturnal leg pain is similar. It was a miracle for me. Before I started on Cymbalta I was in the worst pain you could imagine and I would wake up crying night after night, dreaming about suicide. It was the worst period of my life. Cymbalta has taken the pain down to half of what it was and LDN has taken it down further. Each person is different and we need different therapies. I wish natural therapies would always work. I am, however, very thankful for the medications that let me lead the life I am able to lead. Klonopin helps me

too. I take it in combination with Baclofen to keep the spasms and spasticity at a livable level.Sharon . Always, Sometimes the heart sees what is invisible to the eyes. -H. Brown, Jr.

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,that is so sad.Do you mind if I ask how your sis lost her daughter? If so

im sorry to be to nosy;) jus ignore it.I have heard awesome things about

Cymbalta.I almost got on it myself,only my insurance denied it and they wanted

almost 300 buks for one month.OUCH.could no way afford that.

[lastinline10@...] wrote:

I was on Cymbalta for a few months, I can't remember why the doc took me off of

it.....(memory problems). My sister is on it and she has been on just about

everything out there, she lost her daughter who was age 12, 18 years ago, she

has never been mentally stable since. (not that I blame her) But she says

Cymbalta is the best she has ever been on, she is the one that has RLG too.

Trying to think,

Trista wrote: Paxil was a nightmare for me. I

was on it for several years, and could not get off, because of withdrawal any

time I even tapered down a little. Finally I was able to start Zoloft, and go

off Paxil. I was having withdrawal sx's for almost 3 months after stopping the

Paxil. I was a part of the lawsuit against the company that makes it. I have

to say that I am scared every time I try a new drug, because of the hell that

Paxil put me through for years.

I am thankful for this group, because I never would have heard of LDN, or

Cymbalta. I plan on researching Cymbalta and discussing it with my Dr.

Sharon, I am so glad that you are doing so well on it. I remember how

miserable it was for you with your leg pain at night.

Hugs, Trista

Re: side effects of antidepressants

It seems that people have problems more with Paxil or Wellbutrin but

some people tolerate it very well. I was on Zoloft and it worked great until

it stopped working. Then I was on Prozac and that worked great. I was able

to stop it in 2004 but when I started having such severe nocturnal spasms and

leg pain in the winter of 2005/2006 I was thankful my doctor suggested Cymbalta.

It's an anti-depressant and also works on diabetic neuropathy. I don't have

diabetes but my nocturnal leg pain is similar. It was a miracle for me. Before

I started on Cymbalta I was in the worst pain you could imagine and I would wake

up crying night after night, dreaming about suicide. It was the worst period of

my life. Cymbalta has taken the pain down to half of what it was and LDN has

taken it down further.

Each person is different and we need different therapies. I wish natural

therapies would always work. I am, however, very thankful for the medications

that let me lead the life I am able to lead.

Klonopin helps me too. I take it in combination with Baclofen to keep the

spasms and spasticity at a livable level.

Sharon

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1 Dr said I was depressed and started the Prozac. After nearly being

arrested, told him there was no way I was taking it anymore. A little later

he started me on Zoloft. Didn't like the problems it was causing so I

started decreasing the dosage until I wasn't taking it at all. Told him

there was no way in hell he was going to get me to try an antidepressant

ever again

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>

> How scary a.These anti-depressants are pretty strong,I think some are

just effected more than others.Do the docs ever say they think your

depressed?Do you decline the meds or? JUST curious,im tired of bein on em

im thinkn what if I stopped maybe Id feel a lil better,I dunno.But all you

sharing your experience helps alot.thanks so much. hugz,cassy

>

> [paulacoon@...] wrote:

> I took Zoloft for a few years and no way would I ever consider taking it

again - EVER !!!! It made me suicidal. Prozac was worse - nearly got

arrested because of what it did to me (I got VERY easily agitated and

violent). Come hell or high water, I would never try any anti-depressant

again

>

> a ...... in Michigan

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Cassy, My sister s daughter Dee Dee was Dx'ed with Mystena Graveitis, I think I am spelling it sort of right. She had a bad episode ended up throwing up and since the Mystena G effects the muscle's, she could not throw up....( stomach muscles would not push it up) and she drowned in her own vomit, she went into a coma and was pronounced brain dead according to the Cat scan, she was on every thing to keep her breathing and her heart beating for 3 days, then they decided to "pull the plug" and Dee Dee went into something that made the machines not breath for her any more, she was gone in a few seconds. It was a long time ago for me, still miss her. I think my sister lives in that day everyday. I can't imagine what I would do in her place. She has been on Cymbalta for over a year and loves it, she says it it the only think that helps her. this happened in the late 80's so she has been on lots of anti-depressants. Not a problem about you asking....... cassandra workmn wrote: ,that is so sad.Do you mind if I ask how your sis lost her daughter? If so im sorry to be to nosy;) jus ignore it.I have heard awesome things about Cymbalta.I almost got on it myself,only my insurance denied it

and they wanted almost 300 buks for one month.OUCH.could no way afford that.[lastinline10] wrote:I was on Cymbalta for a few months, I can't remember why the doc took me off of it.....(memory problems). My sister is on it and she has been on just about everything out there, she lost her daughter who was age 12, 18 years ago, she has never been mentally stable since. (not that I blame her) But she says Cymbalta is the best she has ever been on, she is the one that has RLG too. Trying to think, Trista <tabeloecharter (DOT) net> wrote: Paxil was a nightmare for me. I was on it for several years, and could not get off, because of withdrawal any time I even tapered down a little. Finally I was able to start Zoloft, and go off Paxil. I was having withdrawal sx's for almost 3 months after stopping the Paxil. I was a part of the lawsuit against the

company that makes it. I have to say that I am scared every time I try a new drug, because of the hell that Paxil put me through for years. I am thankful for this group, because I never would have heard of LDN, or Cymbalta. I plan on researching Cymbalta and discussing it with my Dr. Sharon, I am so glad that you are doing so well on it. I remember how miserable it was for you with your leg pain at night. Hugs, Trista Re: side effects of antidepressantsIt seems that people have problems more with Paxil or Wellbutrin but some people tolerate it very well. I was on Zoloft and it worked great until it stopped working. Then I was on Prozac and that worked great. I was able to stop it in 2004 but when I started having such severe nocturnal spasms

and leg pain in the winter of 2005/2006 I was thankful my doctor suggested Cymbalta. It's an anti-depressant and also works on diabetic neuropathy. I don't have diabetes but my nocturnal leg pain is similar. It was a miracle for me. Before I started on Cymbalta I was in the worst pain you could imagine and I would wake up crying night after night, dreaming about suicide. It was the worst period of my life. Cymbalta has taken the pain down to half of what it was and LDN has taken it down further. Each person is different and we need different therapies. I wish natural therapies would always work. I am, however, very thankful for the medications that let me lead the life I am able to lead. Klonopin helps me too. I take it in combination with Baclofen to keep the spasms and spasticity at a livable level.Sharon.Always, Sometimes the heart sees what is invisible to the eyes. -H. Brown, Jr.

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Thanks for sharing Chuck.I havnt tried the canadian pharmacies.We have cosco

here they were the cheapest for it.I called every pharmacy in the phone

book.lol.My neuro didnt even fight them that much.All my other meds are free,and

doc visits,everything.I know if she had contacted a case manager and worked it

out that it would be free to.The cost for my months supply of neurontin would be

217 dollars but my insurance approved it and I dont have to pay a

cent.Hugz,cassy

[c_t_j_dad@...] wrote:

Hi, I'm on Medicare part D and have AARP for my prescriptions, they never even

questioned it so I only pay $5.00. They send me a statement each month and

according to that the retail cost here is $105.00 plus my neoro gives me samples

when they can.I get my prescriptions filled at Shopko and find that they have

the best prices.Have you checked the Canadian Pharmacies, our son is on a very

expensive medicine for his stomach, and we can get a generic form from Canada

for a 3 month supply at less than what a 1 month supply costs here (generic form

not available in U.S).

Blessings

Chuck

cassandra workmn wrote:

Hey Chuck.Im glad the Cymbalta is working for you.My neuro wrote me an rx awile

back for cymbalta but my insurance company denied it(of course she didnt help me

fight it) I looked into paying for it but the cheapest place wanted 255 dollars

or sumthn like that,the most expensive was 305.Yikes! For one month.I was

wondering did your insurance approve it right away,or did you have to wait for

authorization? I Have the state insurance Medical here in California.It seems im

always waiting or fighting for a test,doc,or med. I cannot be on my fiances

insurance till we are married,so the state allows me to have there benefits.I

think we will have to be married soon,because unfortunetly im not any closer to

a dx,I think the insurance I have has alot more to do with this than id like to

believe.Have an awesome day! hugz,cassy

[c_t_j_dad@...] wrote:

Trista, I'm on 30mg of Cymbalta, and they are working great for me. I tried

the 60mg, but for me they are too strong. the 30s really take the edge off my

leg pains and help alot with my attitude and mood swings. The only thing is that

they are not cheap, but I'm on Medicare and have part D so that really helps.

Blessings

Chuck

Trista wrote:

Paxil was a nightmare for me. I was on it for several years, and could not

get off, because of withdrawal any time I even tapered down a little. Finally

I was able to start Zoloft, and go off Paxil. I was having withdrawal sx's for

almost 3 months after stopping the Paxil. I was a part of the lawsuit against

the company that makes it. I have to say that I am scared every time I try a

new drug, because of the hell that Paxil put me through for years.

I am thankful for this group, because I never would have heard of LDN, or

Cymbalta. I plan on researching Cymbalta and discussing it with my Dr.

Sharon, I am so glad that you are doing so well on it. I remember how

miserable it was for you with your leg pain at night.

Hugs, Trista

Re: side effects of antidepressants

It seems that people have problems more with Paxil or....

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I forgot to say I feel nothing from the Cymbalta except better. I have heard of lots of people who had terrible trouble with Paxil and I believe I've read that if one person in a family has trouble with Paxil then other family members should stay away from it as well. I've heard the same thing about Wellbutrin. Sharon Re: side effects of antidepressants

It seems that people have problems more with Paxil or Wellbutrin but some people tolerate it very well. I was on Zoloft and it worked great until it stopped working. Then I was on Prozac and that worked great. I was able to stop it in 2004 but when I started having such severe nocturnal spasms and leg pain in the winter of 2005/2006 I was thankful my doctor suggested Cymbalta. It's an anti-depressant and also works on diabetic neuropathy. I don't have diabetes but my nocturnal leg pain is similar. It was a miracle for me. Before I started on Cymbalta I was in the worst pain you could imagine and I would wake up crying night after night, dreaming about suicide. It was the worst period of my life. Cymbalta has taken the pain down to half of what it was and LDN has taken it down further. Each person is different and we need different therapies. I wish natural therapies would always work. I am, however, very thankful for the medications that let me lead the life I am able to lead. Klonopin helps me too. I take it in combination with Baclofen to keep the spasms and spasticity at a livable level.Sharon

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Thanks Sharon.I dont have those other stores here,but cosco was wayyy cheaper

then everywere else. I THINK I will wait til I wean off the zoloft.Go from 100

to 50,I was fine on 50,see what happens then once im weaned off all together if

Im feeln crappy then try the Cymbalta.I think I wanna just give my body a break

from them.They have been switching and uping to much.thanks for the info.big

hugzz, cassy

[wobbletowalk@...] wrote:

Do you have a Fry's or Kroger's there? Here we have Frys Grocery with a

pharmacy (same co as Krogers). Anyway their drug prices are waaaay cheaper. I

have called every drug store to check prices. I get my Cymbalta at Frys and

it's around $132. I'm too lazy to get up and check. What about Costco? People

say they have cheap prices too.

Sharon

Re: side effects of antidepressants

It seems that people have problems more with Paxil or Wellbutrin but some people

tolerate it very well. I was on Zoloft and it worked great until it stopped

working. Then I was on Prozac and that worked great. I was able to stop it

in 2004 but when I started having such severe nocturnal spasms and leg pain in

the winter of 2005/2006 I was thankful my doctor suggested Cymbalta. It's an

anti-depressant and also works on diabetic neuropathy. I don't have diabetes

but my nocturnal leg pain is similar. It was a miracle for me. Before I

started on Cymbalta I was in the worst pain you could imagine and I would wake

up crying night after night, dreaming about....