Guest guest Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Dr. Kartzinel talks about this a bit in his book w/ McCarthy. Apparently, it's pretty common. His plan involves giving a fleet enema every day for 5 days, plus fiber & laxatives. Good luck! > > We did an abdominal x-ray yesterday because we've suspected he's majorly constipated or full of impacted stool for a while now. He's a chronic toe walker, he is always posturing, his belly is distended and he pokes his belly button and says it hurts. He's still only 3 but almost 4 now. > > Anyway, yesterday the x-ray showed him FULL of poop up into his rib cage, his large intestine, small intestine and colon all look full of poop. Now we need a plan to clear him out. The doctors are talking about multiple fleet enemas, laxatives, etc. > > Has anyone been through this or heard of this issue being resolved with home remedies? > > Thanks! > > gfcfmom > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 We used to go to the emergency room frequently for my son's constipation and have not been back since giving a Trienza (http://www.houston-enzymes.com/) with every meal. No more x-rays! CGF > > We did an abdominal x-ray yesterday because we've suspected he's majorly constipated or full of impacted stool for a while now. He's a chronic toe walker, he is always posturing, his belly is distended and he pokes his belly button and says it hurts. He's still only 3 but almost 4 now. > > Anyway, yesterday the x-ray showed him FULL of poop up into his rib cage, his large intestine, small intestine and colon all look full of poop. Now we need a plan to clear him out. The doctors are talking about multiple fleet enemas, laxatives, etc. > > Has anyone been through this or heard of this issue being resolved with home remedies? > > Thanks! > > gfcfmom > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 We went through this with my son a fews years back. Unfortunately, when you are that impacted, you need heavy duty stuff to clear him out. We did both enema(for the lower half) and a laxative (for the upper). Once he was cleaned out, then I put him on natural stuff to keep him from getting backed up. In the past, we have tried Mag Citrate, vita-c, Probiotic, ect. Every kid is different. But what really has worked is Oxypowder. When I see him starting to have hard b.m's, I give him a cap or 2 of oxypowder. You could try to clean him out with the oxypowder or go the conventional way. Even the conventional won't harm him as you will only be doing it for a few days or till he is clear. Then you can go to a more natural approach. Either way, it won't be pretty but you have to get that out. If you have anymore questions, please feel free to email me. We dealt with this problem for years and have finally come out of the woods.Good luck!!!! Dell Mini Netbooks: Great deals starting at $299 after instant savings! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 We used OLE...within a month, BMs were frequent and constipation was gone. 2000 mg/day...clear out the bacteria and yeast and you'll be doing pretty good!! > > > > We did an abdominal x-ray yesterday because we've suspected he's majorly constipated or full of impacted stool for a while now. He's a chronic toe walker, he is always posturing, his belly is distended and he pokes his belly button and says it hurts. He's still only 3 but almost 4 now. > > > > Anyway, yesterday the x-ray showed him FULL of poop up into his rib cage, his large intestine, small intestine and colon all look full of poop. Now we need a plan to clear him out. The doctors are talking about multiple fleet enemas, laxatives, etc. > > > > Has anyone been through this or heard of this issue being resolved with home remedies? > > > > Thanks! > > > > gfcfmom > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 What about slippery elm and aloe juice? God bless him, I hope him and ya'll get some relief soon. Debi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 PEARS are a natural fiber that helps you go to the bathroom. My son either eats an organic apple or a pear (fresh or glass jar) each day.Fleet enemas are used once a week for us. He is now 13 and uses an enema bag that we add natural probiotics to. But, Fleet enemas came to the rescue many times! Please be sure that you add back minerals/electrolytes. I use the Emergen-C packets sometimes.2 ounces of distilled water every half hour helps tremendously with compaction for kids under 5. Kids drink half their body weight in water/ounces. 25 lbs = 12 ounces water distributed throughout the day. This is in addition to other liquids, but get the water in !!!!We have used castor oil capsules taken orally before and it works Wonders!!!. We added probiotics and it also made a HUGE difference in his ability to eliminate waste.`BelindaSubject: Help! X-ray shows my son is FULL of POOP ....To: mb12 valtrex Date: Wednesday, May 13, 2009, 6:11 AM We did an abdominal x-ray yesterday because we've suspected he's majorly constipated or full of impacted stool for a while now. He's a chronic toe walker, he is always posturing, his belly is distended and he pokes his belly button and says it hurts. He's still only 3 but almost 4 now. Anyway, yesterday the x-ray showed him FULL of poop up into his rib cage, his large intestine, small intestine and colon all look full of poop. Now we need a plan to clear him out. The doctors are talking about multiple fleet enemas, laxatives, etc. Has anyone been through this or heard of this issue being resolved with home remedies? Thanks! gfcfmom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 my son, now 12 yrs, is also full of poop, having only 1 bm/wk. been dealing with chronic constip for YEARS. anyway, preparing to see dr krigsman in austin tx to get to root of problem. motility, etc. i hope you can find something to help your little one. nothing much worked for mine. good luck, vicki Help! X-ray shows my son is FULL of POOP .... To: mb12 valtrex Date: Wednesday, May 13, 2009, 6:11 AM We did an abdominal x-ray yesterday because we've suspected he's majorly constipated or full of impacted stool for a while now. He's a chronic toe walker, he is always posturing, his belly is distended and he pokes his belly button and says it hurts. He's still only 3 but almost 4 now. Anyway, yesterday the x-ray showed him FULL of poop up into his rib cage, his large intestine, small intestine and colon all look full of poop. Now we need a plan to clear him out. The doctors are talking about multiple fleet enemas, laxatives, etc. Has anyone been through this or heard of this issue being resolved with home remedies? Thanks! gfcfmom Dell Mini Netbooks: Great deals starting at $299 after instant savings! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 I don't know that fiber would be a good thing at the moment. Fiber will likely add to his load and the goal at this point should be getting what's in there out. Don't know if they explained to you the risks of not getting it out but I wanted to encourage you after my last post to not be afraid of the enemas or even some laxatives at this point. The GI tract has a number of reflexes that cause the digestive tract to move or sometimes stand still. If the bowel stands still long enough it's called a paralytic ileus and that is very dangerous because bowel tissue death can occur, which would mean a long surgery with long recovery. Fleet enemas work by putting salt in the colon that draws more water from the body that will help soften the stools. Soft stool should be a priority at this point but keep him plenty hydrated by giving him lots and lots of water to drink. He likely won't want much to eat or drink because of him feeling so sick. Debi - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 After you get through all the tough stuff you could try regulate his bm's consistently using a high potency digestive enzyme with each of his meals. Many people have found that this rids the constipation and gets them in the bathroom regularly. Hope everything gets worked out for you and your little one. Talyna Enzymedica Education Dept. www.enzymedica.com > > > > We did an abdominal x-ray yesterday because we've suspected he's majorly constipated or full of impacted stool for a while now. He's a chronic toe walker, he is always posturing, his belly is distended and he pokes his belly button and says it hurts. He's still only 3 but almost 4 now. > > > > Anyway, yesterday the x-ray showed him FULL of poop up into his rib cage, his large intestine, small intestine and colon all look full of poop. Now we need a plan to clear him out. The doctors are talking about multiple fleet enemas, laxatives, etc. > > > > Has anyone been through this or heard of this issue being resolved with home remedies? > > > > Thanks! > > > > gfcfmom > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Hi My son suffered like this when he was younger.HE had behaviors b/c of it.We had him xrayed and even though he had a poop everyday he was still backed up.He would ram himself into the desk at daycare.We did enemas and suppositories along with magnesium and CLO,vitamin C.Anything to help him poop more.HE is almost 8 and is much better. Good Luck! > > > > We did an abdominal x-ray yesterday because we've suspected he's majorly constipated or full of impacted stool for a while now. He's a chronic toe walker, he is always posturing, his belly is distended and he pokes his belly button and says it hurts. He's still only 3 but almost 4 now. > > > > Anyway, yesterday the x-ray showed him FULL of poop up into his rib cage, his large intestine, small intestine and colon all look full of poop. Now we need a plan to clear him out. The doctors are talking about multiple fleet enemas, laxatives, etc. > > > > Has anyone been through this or heard of this issue being resolved with home remedies? > > > > Thanks! > > > > gfcfmom > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Could my son be constipated even if he usually goes once per day? He is a toe walker. If he doesn’t go for a day (maybe once every other week this happens), usually the next day the output is bigger, and has some harder poops mixed in with his typically kind of mushy, sort of foul poops. Poops have been getting better over time with bug reduction, but my question is whether my son might be backed up with poop even if he is somewhat regular and the stool is not hard? The fact that he toe walks – is that a sign that he is? I’ve heard so many different explanations for the toe walking. Anyone have thoughts on this? Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Have you read 's and Dr. Kartzinel's new book? An entire chapter on poop and what to do for constipation naturally and medicinally. Don't quote me but for severe constipation it said a children's fleet enema 5 days in a row. > > We did an abdominal x-ray yesterday because we've suspected he's majorly constipated or full of impacted stool for a while now. He's a chronic toe walker, he is always posturing, his belly is distended and he pokes his belly button and says it hurts. He's still only 3 but almost 4 now. > > Anyway, yesterday the x-ray showed him FULL of poop up into his rib cage, his large intestine, small intestine and colon all look full of poop. Now we need a plan to clear him out. The doctors are talking about multiple fleet enemas, laxatives, etc. > > Has anyone been through this or heard of this issue being resolved with home remedies? > > Thanks! > > gfcfmom > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 way back in the day, tried this and it was a quick fix. didnt help in long run. that's why have to do a scope. sometimes, it just gets to that point. wish i didnt have to do it cause gonna cost us $$$$ ! vicki Re: Help! X-ray shows my son is FULL of POOP .... Have you read 's and Dr. Kartzinel's new book? An entire chapter on poop and what to do for constipation naturally and medicinally. Don't quote me but for severe constipation it said a children's fleet enema 5 days in a row. > > We did an abdominal x-ray yesterday because we've suspected he's majorly constipated or full of impacted stool for a while now. He's a chronic toe walker, he is always posturing, his belly is distended and he pokes his belly button and says it hurts. He's still only 3 but almost 4 now. > > Anyway, yesterday the x-ray showed him FULL of poop up into his rib cage, his large intestine, small intestine and colon all look full of poop. Now we need a plan to clear him out. The doctors are talking about multiple fleet enemas, laxatives, etc. > > Has anyone been through this or heard of this issue being resolved with home remedies? > > Thanks! > > gfcfmom > Dell Mini Netbooks: Great deals starting at $299 after instant savings! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Hi . Has your son improved since you've been able to clear him out? I was looking at the Oxypowder for my son prior to the x-ray. He has GREAT BMs each day so I think this is old poop from before we changed his diet. Thanks so much. : ) > > We went through this with my son a fews years back. Unfortunately, when you > are that impacted, you need heavy duty stuff to clear him out. We did both > enema(for the lower half) and a laxative (for the upper). Once he was > cleaned out, then I put him on natural stuff to keep him from getting backed > up. In the past, we have tried Mag Citrate, vita-c, Probiotic, ect. Every kid > is different. But what really has worked is Oxypowder. When I see him > starting to have hard b.m's, I give him a cap or 2 of oxypowder. > > You could try to clean him out with the oxypowder or go the conventional > way. Even the conventional won't harm him as you will only be doing it for a > few days or till he is clear. Then you can go to a more natural approach. > Either way, it won't be pretty but you have to get that out. > > If you have anymore questions, please feel free to email me. We dealt with > this problem for years and have finally come out of the woods.Good luck!!!! > > **************Dell Mini Netbooks: Great deals starting at $299 after > instant savings! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221972443x1201442012/aol?redir=http:%2\ F%2Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B214819441%3B36680237%3Bi) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Even if someone is having a bm once per day if they have slow motility they could have it sitting in them. The average healthy time from swallowing to defecation should be 12--24 hrs at the most. If it's taking him say 72 hrs or longer, he could have a back up of stool. Motility problems are somewhat common in those with autism according to the last DAN conference. In fact, it's a problem in general for the average American diet. HTH, Debi > > Could my son be constipated even if he usually goes once per day? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 We really don't have a problem anymore. It was years of back and forth constipation. I would check out the oxypowder. I was alittle nervous at first. But I start out low and slow with things. And it works! We only have to use the Oxypowder maybe once or twice a month and it is taken care of in a day.With no horrible blow outs. Dell Mini Netbooks: Great deals starting at $299 after instant savings! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 , A full spectrum digestive enzyme should help with constiptation. And no not all enzymes work the same way, different enzymes are aimed at different areas of the body. For instance, there's enzymes for inflammation, yeast overgrowth management, to balance immune system, etc. A high potency digestive enzyme should help with digestion of soluble and insoluble fiber, along with carbohydrate metabolism. Digestive enzymes turn the food we eat into energy and unlock this energy for use in the body, of course this will happen less if the food we intake isn't digesting properly..hence helping our bodies out by giving it an enzyme to digest the food. This is true espeically with cooked or processed foods, this destroys the enzymes contained within the food, then our bodies have to produce the majority of the enzymes needed unless we use supplemental enzymes to aid in the digestive process. I hope this helps you out . Let me know if you have any other questions. Talyna Enzymedica Education Dept. www.enzymedica.com > > > > > > We did an abdominal x-ray yesterday because we've suspected he's majorly > constipated or full of impacted stool for a while now. He's a chronic toe > walker, he is always posturing, his belly is distended and he pokes his > belly button and says it hurts. He's still only 3 but almost 4 now. > > > > > > Anyway, yesterday the x-ray showed him FULL of poop up into his rib > cage, his large intestine, small intestine and colon all look full of poop. > Now we need a plan to clear him out. The doctors are talking about multiple > fleet enemas, laxatives, etc. > > > > > > Has anyone been through this or heard of this issue being resolved with > home remedies? > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > gfcfmom > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 >Hi I am wondering if my son needs help, and when I should use a laxitive, oxypowder ?? He has a BM usually everyother day, which I don't really see as a problem. However, I just finished M's new book written with Dr. Kartzenel, hope I spelled that right.. Anyways, they talk about a complete bm's everyday .. I don't consider my son constipated , but would giving him something extra to make him go be overkill..?? He's 6, and I am thinking about taking a day to just totally flush him out with a laxitive.. SD > We really don't have a problem anymore. It was years of back and forth > constipation. I would check out the oxypowder. I was alittle nervous at > first. But I start out low and slow with things. And it works! We only have to > use the Oxypowder maybe once or twice a month and it is taken care of in a > day.With no horrible blow outs. > **************Dell Mini Netbooks: Great deals starting at $299 after > instant savings! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222627952x1201458914/aol?redir=http:%2\ F%2Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B214819460%3B36680227%3Bi) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 We have been through this. Aloe Vera capsules worked for us. We bought them on the internet at www.unitynetwork.com It was great for us. > We did an abdominal x-ray yesterday because we've suspected he's majorly constipated or full of impacted stool for a while now. He's a chronic toe walker, he is always posturing, his belly is distended and he pokes his belly button and says it hurts. He's still only 3 but almost 4 now. > > Anyway, yesterday the x-ray showed him FULL of poop up into his rib cage, his large intestine, small intestine and colon all look full of poop. Now we need a plan to clear him out. The doctors are talking about multiple fleet enemas, laxatives, etc. > > Has anyone been through this or heard of this issue being resolved with home remedies? > > Thanks! > > gfcfmom > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 Dear GFCF Mom, We went through this. My daughter is 15 years old. In January 2008 we ended up at the ER with severe pain. I tried everything and couldn't get her to let me give her an enema. They eventually did and what came out of her was astounding and gross! A few days before this was our first DAN! appointment. I had a plan in place and began a new journey in her life. Who would have thought at 13 years old she could go on the GF diet, prescription anti-fungals, & vitamins that would change her bowels! We do not have the problems we did back then. I journal daily to know when she is pooping. I use Custom probiotics + 2 others, Vit C, Milk of Magnesia, Oxypowder, GSE (this will cause poops as well), Biotin, epsom salt baths, & LDN. I noticed a huge difference in her bowels the 4 month of LDN. My daughter had zero good bacteria in her gut on the first comprehensive stool test. She was 13 when we took that test. We redid the test a couple of months ago (1 year later from 1st) and she has some good bacteria but is still severely deficient. She is so behind a normal person. It takes an enormous amount of probiotics to work on her. I wish you well. Keep us posted! Shanna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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