drinking even a little water can cause a skipped beat

October 22, 2001

I'm drinking almost exclusively water for fluid intake, because I've

cut out caffiene because of my heart, and cut out carbonated and

citrus drinks because of indigestion, which affects the heart. Plus

milk, soy drinks, fruit juice, etc. are too high calorie to drink

eight glasses a day of.

I keep a cup of water on the counter so it is room temp, not cold.

None the less, I can't drink any non-trivial amount of water without

triggering an extra beat, it seems like. Similarly eating even

carefully, chewing the heck out of food and not eating fast, tends to

trigger extra beats. I can tolerate warm apple juice better than

water, but it is high calorie and is a diuretic, so it's not good to

have too much of it, again because of the heart.

Any helpful hints would be much appreciated.

Thanks,

trudy

November 6, 2001

In a message dated 11/6/01 11:25:08 AM Pacific Standard Time,

mseither@... writes:

> Have occasionally played around with reducing

> all the vitamins I'm taking because I was afib free for a couple of days

> when I skipped them and wondered if there might be a connection

I take a strong multiple, CoQ10, extra magnesium and a small cal/mag capsule.

They make me feel better and give me more energy. However, when I added an

extra multiple B complex after 3 days I started afibbing in the middle of the

day. 99.9% of my afib episodes happen during the night. It lasted 18 hrs.

which is the longest episode I've ever had. I stopped the B complex and it

hasn't happened since. Apparently it was just too much vit. B for me. I

must have been getting enough in my regular multiple.

MK

November 6, 2001

Dear Trudy,

I, too, have notice recently that taking my usual handful of vitamins in the

afternoon with lunch or in

the evening prior to dinner will trigger afib. Seem to be okay in the

morning with vitamins and water.

Even room temperature water in the morning will trigger some odd beats now

because the room temperature is so much colder during the fall and winter

months so I pop the glass of water into the

microwave to heat it slightly.

Have noticed that taking certain vitamins may trigger an episode. Have you

or anyone else noticed a

problem with L-Carnitine? I'm also careful with CoQ10. I take a lot of

Calcium due to my age, but

hadn't ever made a connection between that and afib. Have occasionally

played around with reducing

all the vitamins I'm taking because I was afib free for a couple of days

when I skipped them and wondered if there might be a connection.

drinking even a little water can cause a skipped beat

> I'm drinking almost exclusively water for fluid intake, because I've

> cut out caffiene because of my heart, and cut out carbonated and

> citrus drinks because of indigestion, which affects the heart. Plus

> milk, soy drinks, fruit juice, etc. are too high calorie to drink

> eight glasses a day of.

>

> I keep a cup of water on the counter so it is room temp, not cold.

>

> None the less, I can't drink any non-trivial amount of water without

> triggering an extra beat, it seems like. Similarly eating even

> carefully, chewing the heck out of food and not eating fast, tends to

> trigger extra beats. I can tolerate warm apple juice better than

> water, but it is high calorie and is a diuretic, so it's not good to

> have too much of it, again because of the heart.

>

> Any helpful hints would be much appreciated.

>

> Thanks,

>

> trudy

>

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November 6, 2001

<<<<<I take a lot of Calcium due to my age, but hadn't ever made a

connection between that and afib. Have occasionally played around with

reducing

all the vitamins I'm taking because I was afib free for a couple of days

when I skipped them and wondered if there might be a connection.

===========

My (tertiary) understanding of calcium is the more you take the more

magnesium you deplete and magnesium, along with calcium and potassium is

important for heart cell balance. (sodium too, but we won't go into that)

Soooo, you might look at how much calcium is really necessary and make sure

you supplement your magnesium to a level to avoid depletion. (take them at

different times, too, apparently)

Mike

November 6, 2001

Have occasionally played around with reducing

all the vitamins I'm taking because I was afib free for a couple of days

when I skipped them and wondered if there might be a connection.

=====

Sorry for splitting the messages.

When I skipped taking my vitamins altogether AND got the right combination

of minerals is when my heart evened out. Course changing my diet, ending

all caffeine, reducing my strenuous exercise (not stopping just regulating

properly), avoiding fats, sugars and chocolate, avoiding getting too tired,

keeping my blood sugar regulated, etc. was there too of course. I was

taking a lot of vitamins. Now I'm not taking any. My doc will comment on

that in two weeks but I don't know if the common sense of being in nsr can

be overcome at this point.

Mike

November 6, 2001

vitamin B12 may be the culprit jus. It is known as a energy stimulant and may

trigger. It is good for most people. Check out the amount you are taking. The

rest of the Bs are generally ok.

Dr Lam

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