~ pull up a seat - Re: Protein train...off track?

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Hi . Please tell me about your surgery experience.

Kira

> Toi,

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> <<I'm a carb-o-holic from way back>>

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> Me, too <g> and I have found that the very nature of WLS has helped

with that by all the amounts of protein I eat.

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> <<How about getting back to our " new-normal " eating? Not

restricing

> calories for 3 days>> <<Problem for me is that I never felt like I

knew what " normal " eating was.>>

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> I never knew what normal was pre-WLS, but I know what it is post-

WLS. I coined the phrase " new-normal " for myself to mean how I eat

now - protein, veggies, fruits, etc. If I am unsure of something, I

call Ginger (doc's nutrionist) or take her the label. In the past 7

months, I have eaten more " normal " than I ever have in my life. I

work at it every day because it's so new, but at 7 months, it's

getting easier. 44 years of old thinking leaving, replaced with new.

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> <<doing what I can to make myself feel better psychologically makes

more sense to me than not doing anything and continuing to feel icky.

If painting helps my emotional state, I'll paint.>>

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> Sure it does - I totally agree, as long as it can't hurt us.

Painting, etc. are great to take our minds off of food. Makes us

feel better than not doing anything at all. In the long run, though,

what will a protein train, no matter the length of time of the actual

train, do to our metabolism? This is one of the things I question.

Do any of our surgeons think it's a good, healthy tool? Mine doesn't

and I agree with her reasons. I worry about the post-ops that take

the view of, " I had a bad week so I will do a train. " I worry about

some seeing it as a crutch and a " quick-fix " .

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> <<If gossiping is the answer, send me to a family reunion.>>

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> <g> Just have dinner with my family.

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> <<You're so right, it is very much individual and we all have to do

whatever we can to make ourselves feel better emotionally and

physically.>>

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> As long as it's not harmful. And, I still wonder if any of us

can't do the same thing by getting back on the path we were taught in

our WLS classes (those that had them and I really wish all surgeons

provided them)? As opposed to a 3-day detox that drastically cuts

our calories and food? I worry about long-term effects by doing

something like this, even on a short-term basis. For me, getting

back to basics is my alloted portions protein, veggies, fruits -

this, too, can take away the carb cravings, etc.

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> <<I've found things that work wonders for others that don't to

beans for me>>

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> I know many take calcium right before bedtime and it helps them

sleep. I spread mine out all day (4) and take one at night, but it

does nothing for my sleep patterns (wish it did <g>).

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> <<but some things I learn about turn out to be very beneficial and

I wish I had learned about them long ago.>>

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> True, but some things I will always check out with my surgeon and

her staff before I do it to make sure it can't hurt me or my pouch or

my metabolism, etc.

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> I know my surgeon does not put a lot of stock into the Pouch Rule

for Dummies. Some of the research used was done in the early 1980's

and newer research is available. But, she finds no harm in some of

the stuff in the Pouch Rules and doesn't make an issue out of it. I

have read the Pouch Rules and have no feeling one way or another (can

you believe it <g>) because nothing seems harmful.

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> <<Hope your week is going well so far>>

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> Both kids home sick today, but I went out and exercised anyway

<g>. As long as my older son is home, I can leave them both alone

with my mom. My little one still does not have my cell phone number

memorized so I won't leave him alone with my mom.

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> <<my fingers are tired now, lol.>>

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> LOL!

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> Anyway, I just worry about everyone when I hear of these protein

trains - I worry on many levels about them. People may feel great in

the short term, but what about long term effects, etc?

Psychologically and physically, are they really a good thing in the

long term? I don't think so, but that's just moi, Toi (sorry, I had

to do this <g>)

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> Hugs,

> :::ducking::: running:::after my silly joke.

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