Re: Protein train...off track?

[Guest guest]

Thats what I thought Melody, just a high protein, no carb diet.

[Guest guest]

Thats what I thought Melody, just a high protein, no carb diet.

[Guest guest]

Wait a minute...maybe I've got a boarding pass for the wrong train?

Darcy says she'll not be boarding because she's waiting for an order,

and I believe I read someone else saying the same thing. Now I'm

confused. So here's my question:

Isn't it possible to do the protein train thing without protein

drinks/shakes? I haven't done supplements like those since early post-

op. I thought (and maybe this is where I got off track, pun intended)

that ridin' the protein train meant that you were restricting your

carbs in favor of a high-protein diet, regardless of the protein

source. I've always thought the protein source was optional.

Will someone please help set me on the right track?

Melody

> > I would but I'm out. I have an order in and should be here this

> week. But with the holiday I don't think I will see it until Tue or

> Wed. Good luck

> >

> > Darcy

> >

[Guest guest]

melody...

to be honest and please NO ONE get offended at what i am about to

type its not ment to be offensive just honest ok...

there is NOTHING set in stone in the weight loss world... I coined

the term protien train after the little engine that could book...

before that it was commonly known as the protien fast or feast...

anyway back to your question... Many folks do just the protien

shakes especially on the protien board and the more ummm radical

boards i guess you could call it... but many folks do just a high

protien diet and cut the carbs ect out of their food intake...

so ....

what it boils down to in all things vitamins minerals protien

exercise and everything else here... the things we suggest are just

that SUGGESTIONS things that someone who is farther out than we are

has found to work for them... many many do try and find that

certian things work for them than for others ... like my personal

feeling/ belief and what not is that protien shakes are the way to

go they are best for us but my very good friend susan in california

does not touch a protien shakes she gets all her protiens from

food... we have agreed to disagree and continue to support each

other and will compare labs in the long term...to see which one or

if both ways work.

so as always follow your labs if you see your protien dropping then

please do something be it shakes or different food or something

anything to prevent protien starvation... and in the mean time if

you want to ride the little protien train that can please hop on

there is no right or wrong way to ride and all are welcome on here.

you have not derailed melody or jumpped track just be proactive in

your health and track your labs and adjust accordingly.

love n hugs

~peach~

who is still freakin stuck on this pleatau!

ARRGGGG

> > > I would but I'm out. I have an order in and should be here

this

> > week. But with the holiday I don't think I will see it until

Tue or

> > Wed. Good luck

> > >

> > > Darcy

> > >

[Guest guest]

melody...

to be honest and please NO ONE get offended at what i am about to

type its not ment to be offensive just honest ok...

there is NOTHING set in stone in the weight loss world... I coined

the term protien train after the little engine that could book...

before that it was commonly known as the protien fast or feast...

anyway back to your question... Many folks do just the protien

shakes especially on the protien board and the more ummm radical

boards i guess you could call it... but many folks do just a high

protien diet and cut the carbs ect out of their food intake...

so ....

what it boils down to in all things vitamins minerals protien

exercise and everything else here... the things we suggest are just

that SUGGESTIONS things that someone who is farther out than we are

has found to work for them... many many do try and find that

certian things work for them than for others ... like my personal

feeling/ belief and what not is that protien shakes are the way to

go they are best for us but my very good friend susan in california

does not touch a protien shakes she gets all her protiens from

food... we have agreed to disagree and continue to support each

other and will compare labs in the long term...to see which one or

if both ways work.

so as always follow your labs if you see your protien dropping then

please do something be it shakes or different food or something

anything to prevent protien starvation... and in the mean time if

you want to ride the little protien train that can please hop on

there is no right or wrong way to ride and all are welcome on here.

you have not derailed melody or jumpped track just be proactive in

your health and track your labs and adjust accordingly.

love n hugs

~peach~

who is still freakin stuck on this pleatau!

ARRGGGG

> > > I would but I'm out. I have an order in and should be here

this

> > week. But with the holiday I don't think I will see it until

Tue or

> > Wed. Good luck

> > >

> > > Darcy

> > >

[Guest guest]

Hi Melody,

I am not an expert on this but reading the posts in other groups it

seems that the Protein Train can be whatever you want it to be within

the goal of eating lots of protein, very few carbs, drinking tons of

water and doing exercise. How big a change that is from your normal

routine depends upon how far " off the track " you've strayed! From

watching the " Offtrack " group, some folks like to go with all liquid

protein, but often they have been eating a lot of carbs and skipping

their water and supplements. Others have been on a long plateau and want

to jump start their weight loss.

Some people seem to go the while hog and do nothing but liquid protein

for 3-4 days. Personally I don't think I can do that - I'd be too

hungry. I wouldn't stick to it for more than a day. I will just cut out

some of the things that have been creeping into my diet lately, such as

nuts, cheese, lattes and fruit. I will avoid all white carbs, although

I eat very few of those anyway. However I did eat half of a small potato

at dinner last night. At the risk of sounding like a drunk I have to say

that alcohol is probably my number one problem. I don't drink a lot - I

can't anymore! But my hubby drinks every night and it is always tempting

to join him. This weekend for example we ate out Friday night and I had

a couple of martinis. Then Sat and Sun evening I had a small port and

brandy (mixed together - great for getting rid of gas BTW) while

watching TV. This could soon turn into a bad habit, so I have to stop

right now.

So for me the protein train will look something like this:

Breakfast: protein bar

Lunch: protein shake + chicken salad (I will eat very little of the

green salad)

Dinner: solid protein + veg

Evening: high protein snack

At least 64 fl oz of water - but I'm shooting for 96 fl oz

My usual exercise regime

No alcohol, no white carbs, as little fat as possible.

Apologies if I am on the wrong track, but this is the train I am

boarding!

Carol

Re: Protein train...off track?

Wait a minute...maybe I've got a boarding pass for the wrong train?

Darcy says she'll not be boarding because she's waiting for an order,

and I believe I read someone else saying the same thing. Now I'm

confused. So here's my question:

Isn't it possible to do the protein train thing without protein

drinks/shakes? I haven't done supplements like those since early post-

op. I thought (and maybe this is where I got off track, pun intended)

that ridin' the protein train meant that you were restricting your

carbs in favor of a high-protein diet, regardless of the protein

source. I've always thought the protein source was optional.

Will someone please help set me on the right track?

Melody

> > I would but I'm out. I have an order in and should be here this

> week. But with the holiday I don't think I will see it until Tue or

> Wed. Good luck

> >

> > Darcy

> >

To visit your group on the web, go to:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GastricBypass-LOSERS/

[Guest guest]

Hi Melody,

I am not an expert on this but reading the posts in other groups it

seems that the Protein Train can be whatever you want it to be within

the goal of eating lots of protein, very few carbs, drinking tons of

water and doing exercise. How big a change that is from your normal

routine depends upon how far " off the track " you've strayed! From

watching the " Offtrack " group, some folks like to go with all liquid

protein, but often they have been eating a lot of carbs and skipping

their water and supplements. Others have been on a long plateau and want

to jump start their weight loss.

Some people seem to go the while hog and do nothing but liquid protein

for 3-4 days. Personally I don't think I can do that - I'd be too

hungry. I wouldn't stick to it for more than a day. I will just cut out

some of the things that have been creeping into my diet lately, such as

nuts, cheese, lattes and fruit. I will avoid all white carbs, although

I eat very few of those anyway. However I did eat half of a small potato

at dinner last night. At the risk of sounding like a drunk I have to say

that alcohol is probably my number one problem. I don't drink a lot - I

can't anymore! But my hubby drinks every night and it is always tempting

to join him. This weekend for example we ate out Friday night and I had

a couple of martinis. Then Sat and Sun evening I had a small port and

brandy (mixed together - great for getting rid of gas BTW) while

watching TV. This could soon turn into a bad habit, so I have to stop

right now.

So for me the protein train will look something like this:

Breakfast: protein bar

Lunch: protein shake + chicken salad (I will eat very little of the

green salad)

Dinner: solid protein + veg

Evening: high protein snack

At least 64 fl oz of water - but I'm shooting for 96 fl oz

My usual exercise regime

No alcohol, no white carbs, as little fat as possible.

Apologies if I am on the wrong track, but this is the train I am

boarding!

Carol

Re: Protein train...off track?

Wait a minute...maybe I've got a boarding pass for the wrong train?

Darcy says she'll not be boarding because she's waiting for an order,

and I believe I read someone else saying the same thing. Now I'm

confused. So here's my question:

Isn't it possible to do the protein train thing without protein

drinks/shakes? I haven't done supplements like those since early post-

op. I thought (and maybe this is where I got off track, pun intended)

that ridin' the protein train meant that you were restricting your

carbs in favor of a high-protein diet, regardless of the protein

source. I've always thought the protein source was optional.

Will someone please help set me on the right track?

Melody

> > I would but I'm out. I have an order in and should be here this

> week. But with the holiday I don't think I will see it until Tue or

> Wed. Good luck

> >

> > Darcy

> >

To visit your group on the web, go to:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GastricBypass-LOSERS/

[Guest guest]

Carol and Melody

My protein train is pretty much like Carol's. I do SOME protein

shakes in the day but I can't do all liquid. I always drink a lot of

water, and ensure that I get at least 80 grams of protein in. That's

normal for me anyway, between the protein bar, the shakes and the

snacks.

There isn't, in my opinion, a wrong or right way to do a protein

train or feast.

>> So for me the protein train will look something like this:

>

> Breakfast: protein bar

> Lunch: protein shake + chicken salad (I will eat very little of the

> green salad)

> Dinner: solid protein + veg

> Evening: high protein snack

> At least 64 fl oz of water - but I'm shooting for 96 fl oz

> My usual exercise regime

>

> No alcohol, no white carbs, as little fat as possible.

>

> Apologies if I am on the wrong track, but this is the train I am

> boarding!

>

> Carol

>

>

[Guest guest]

Carol and Melody

My protein train is pretty much like Carol's. I do SOME protein

shakes in the day but I can't do all liquid. I always drink a lot of

water, and ensure that I get at least 80 grams of protein in. That's

normal for me anyway, between the protein bar, the shakes and the

snacks.

There isn't, in my opinion, a wrong or right way to do a protein

train or feast.

>> So for me the protein train will look something like this:

>

> Breakfast: protein bar

> Lunch: protein shake + chicken salad (I will eat very little of the

> green salad)

> Dinner: solid protein + veg

> Evening: high protein snack

> At least 64 fl oz of water - but I'm shooting for 96 fl oz

> My usual exercise regime

>

> No alcohol, no white carbs, as little fat as possible.

>

> Apologies if I am on the wrong track, but this is the train I am

> boarding!

>

> Carol

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks. It looks like everyone has a slightly different impression of

what " protein train " means. For me, it involves chew chew chewing.

LOL.

I just didn't want anyone to feel left out (including me) if they did

not choose/have protein drinks.

In truth, EVERYTHING in life is what you make of it, isn't it?

Melody

> >

> > Wait a minute...maybe I've got a boarding pass for the wrong

train?

> > Darcy says she'll not be boarding because she's waiting for an

> order, and I believe I read someone else saying the same thing. Now

> I'm confused. So here's my question:

> >

> > Isn't it possible to do the protein train thing without protein

> > drinks/shakes? I haven't done supplements like those since early

> post-op. I thought (and maybe this is where I got off track, pun

> intended) that ridin' the protein train meant that you were

> restricting your carbs in favor of a high-protein diet, regardless

of

> the protein source. I've always thought the protein source was

> optional.

> >

> > Will someone please help set me on the right track?

> >

> > Melody

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Thanks. It looks like everyone has a slightly different impression of

what " protein train " means. For me, it involves chew chew chewing.

LOL.

I just didn't want anyone to feel left out (including me) if they did

not choose/have protein drinks.

In truth, EVERYTHING in life is what you make of it, isn't it?

Melody

> >

> > Wait a minute...maybe I've got a boarding pass for the wrong

train?

> > Darcy says she'll not be boarding because she's waiting for an

> order, and I believe I read someone else saying the same thing. Now

> I'm confused. So here's my question:

> >

> > Isn't it possible to do the protein train thing without protein

> > drinks/shakes? I haven't done supplements like those since early

> post-op. I thought (and maybe this is where I got off track, pun

> intended) that ridin' the protein train meant that you were

> restricting your carbs in favor of a high-protein diet, regardless

of

> the protein source. I've always thought the protein source was

> optional.

> >

> > Will someone please help set me on the right track?

> >

> > Melody

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Jodi:

My doctor's plan is to just eat more protein than carbs, which I do. He

says you need some carbs in your diet to have a healthy balance.

[Guest guest]

Jodi:

My doctor's plan is to just eat more protein than carbs, which I do. He

says you need some carbs in your diet to have a healthy balance.

[Guest guest]

Melody

LOL...I'm all about INCLUSION...exclusion isn't something I try to

practice (except for excluding bad food!)

>

> Thanks. It looks like everyone has a slightly different impression

of what " protein train " means. For me, it involves chew chew chewing.

> LOL.

>

> I just didn't want anyone to feel left out (including me) if they

did not choose/have protein drinks.

>

> In truth, EVERYTHING in life is what you make of it, isn't it?

>

> Melody

>

[Guest guest]

Melody

LOL...I'm all about INCLUSION...exclusion isn't something I try to

practice (except for excluding bad food!)

>

> Thanks. It looks like everyone has a slightly different impression

of what " protein train " means. For me, it involves chew chew chewing.

> LOL.

>

> I just didn't want anyone to feel left out (including me) if they

did not choose/have protein drinks.

>

> In truth, EVERYTHING in life is what you make of it, isn't it?

>

> Melody

>

[Guest guest]

Ok -- Now I will throw my dumb question out there, too...

Do the rest of you not restrict your carbs everyday?

Maybe I am on a perpetual protein train...hell -- maybe I'm the conductor and

didn't know it...

My main focus everyday is protein...I don't eat surgar or many carbs ever since

surgery...

dazed and confused,

jb-bb

Melody wrote:

Wait a minute...maybe I've got a boarding pass for the wrong train?

Darcy says she'll not be boarding because she's waiting for an order,

and I believe I read someone else saying the same thing. Now I'm

confused. So here's my question:

Isn't it possible to do the protein train thing without protein

drinks/shakes? I haven't done supplements like those since early post-

op. I thought (and maybe this is where I got off track, pun intended)

that ridin' the protein train meant that you were restricting your

carbs in favor of a high-protein diet, regardless of the protein

source. I've always thought the protein source was optional.

Will someone please help set me on the right track?

Melody

> > I would but I'm out. I have an order in and should be here this

> week. But with the holiday I don't think I will see it until Tue or

> Wed. Good luck

> >

> > Darcy

> >

To visit your group on the web, go to:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GastricBypass-LOSERS/

[Guest guest]

Ok -- Now I will throw my dumb question out there, too...

Do the rest of you not restrict your carbs everyday?

Maybe I am on a perpetual protein train...hell -- maybe I'm the conductor and

didn't know it...

My main focus everyday is protein...I don't eat surgar or many carbs ever since

surgery...

dazed and confused,

jb-bb

Melody wrote:

Wait a minute...maybe I've got a boarding pass for the wrong train?

Darcy says she'll not be boarding because she's waiting for an order,

and I believe I read someone else saying the same thing. Now I'm

confused. So here's my question:

Isn't it possible to do the protein train thing without protein

drinks/shakes? I haven't done supplements like those since early post-

op. I thought (and maybe this is where I got off track, pun intended)

that ridin' the protein train meant that you were restricting your

carbs in favor of a high-protein diet, regardless of the protein

source. I've always thought the protein source was optional.

Will someone please help set me on the right track?

Melody

> > I would but I'm out. I have an order in and should be here this

> week. But with the holiday I don't think I will see it until Tue or

> Wed. Good luck

> >

> > Darcy

> >

To visit your group on the web, go to:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GastricBypass-LOSERS/

[Guest guest]

Right -- I understand this. This is how I love my life everyday (although my

ratio of carbs is far less than my protein) -- so if we are living this on a

daily basis, I don't understand the protein train idea...

I don't know -- it almost seems like we are trying to 'fad diet' again to kick

our systems into working when we get stuck. I must be missing something...

jb-bb

softswtwhisper@... wrote:

Jodi:

My doctor's plan is to just eat more protein than carbs, which I do. He

says you need some carbs in your diet to have a healthy balance.

[Guest guest]

Right -- I understand this. This is how I love my life everyday (although my

ratio of carbs is far less than my protein) -- so if we are living this on a

daily basis, I don't understand the protein train idea...

I don't know -- it almost seems like we are trying to 'fad diet' again to kick

our systems into working when we get stuck. I must be missing something...

jb-bb

softswtwhisper@... wrote:

Jodi:

My doctor's plan is to just eat more protein than carbs, which I do. He

says you need some carbs in your diet to have a healthy balance.

[Guest guest]

Jodi

I admit to two big weaknesses in the carb factory. Low sodium cheese

puffs (which has a slight amount of protein in them) and fresh parsley &

dill on boiled potatoes. (Also sweet potatoes occationally). The

potatoes I eat for potassium because my body latches onto water and

retains it for weeks while I suffer. So many other veggies do NOT agree

with me. Carrots in any form make me feel really ill, corn I throw up

no matter how it is prepared, string beans clog me frequently. It's

potatoes or a zuchinni that is an easy no stress veggie for me. I can

manage some lettuce once in a while but it clogs on me often because

it's one of those slippery chew foods. I live for tomatoes. I can do

kidney beans in chili, onions and bell peppers when cooked soft. Before

surgery it was brussel sprouts- I lived on them and loads of salad with

everything in them. Post op I have not even tried brussel sprouts. I

can manage cucumbers most of the time but only a few slices.

Yesterday being MLK day, we had teacher inservice while the kids had

off. Which means teachers go out to lunch. I had a 6 inch whole wheat

sub from Subway with tuna fish, mayo, tomato, lettuce and cucumbers. I

had stickers from other people so that part of my lunch was free. (I am

blessed with other people's stickers often- the high school assistant

principal even gave me two of his when he was in the line in front of

me.) I had to buy a fountain drink as part of the free sandwich deal.

I was still sipping it at 5 pm. The other two teachers I had lunch with

got loads of stuff on their 6 inch sub, bag of chips (which gives me

more trouble than they are worth with clogs) soda and a cookie. I was

happy with my tuna sub and I was still chewing it when they were done

with their meal. I sat down and started working on some of the lettuce

while they were still ordering. But the bread was a carb. Normally

that is the only time I have bread. I am not one of those people who

was used to eating bread with every meal. Its only in sandwiches. Most

of the time I would rather have hot sausage with peppers and onions (my

dinner last night) without the bread, or some form of seafood like the

shrimp cocktail I fixed for my lunch today. I do a lot of home made

chili. I also snack on soy chips (which have protein in them).

Jodi Brown wrote:

> Ok -- Now I will throw my dumb question out there, too...

> Do the rest of you not restrict your carbs everyday?

> Maybe I am on a perpetual protein train...hell -- maybe I'm the

> conductor and didn't know it...

> My main focus everyday is protein...I don't eat surgar or many carbs

> ever since surgery...

>

> dazed and confused,

> jb-bb

>

> Melody wrote:

>

> Wait a minute...maybe I've got a boarding pass for the wrong train?

> Darcy says she'll not be boarding because she's waiting for an order,

> and I believe I read someone else saying the same thing. Now I'm

> confused. So here's my question:

>

> Isn't it possible to do the protein train thing without protein

> drinks/shakes? I haven't done supplements like those since early post-

> op. I thought (and maybe this is where I got off track, pun intended)

> that ridin' the protein train meant that you were restricting your

> carbs in favor of a high-protein diet, regardless of the protein

> source. I've always thought the protein source was optional.

>

> Will someone please help set me on the right track?

>

> Melody

>

[Guest guest]

Jodi

I admit to two big weaknesses in the carb factory. Low sodium cheese

puffs (which has a slight amount of protein in them) and fresh parsley &

dill on boiled potatoes. (Also sweet potatoes occationally). The

potatoes I eat for potassium because my body latches onto water and

retains it for weeks while I suffer. So many other veggies do NOT agree

with me. Carrots in any form make me feel really ill, corn I throw up

no matter how it is prepared, string beans clog me frequently. It's

potatoes or a zuchinni that is an easy no stress veggie for me. I can

manage some lettuce once in a while but it clogs on me often because

it's one of those slippery chew foods. I live for tomatoes. I can do

kidney beans in chili, onions and bell peppers when cooked soft. Before

surgery it was brussel sprouts- I lived on them and loads of salad with

everything in them. Post op I have not even tried brussel sprouts. I

can manage cucumbers most of the time but only a few slices.

Yesterday being MLK day, we had teacher inservice while the kids had

off. Which means teachers go out to lunch. I had a 6 inch whole wheat

sub from Subway with tuna fish, mayo, tomato, lettuce and cucumbers. I

had stickers from other people so that part of my lunch was free. (I am

blessed with other people's stickers often- the high school assistant

principal even gave me two of his when he was in the line in front of

me.) I had to buy a fountain drink as part of the free sandwich deal.

I was still sipping it at 5 pm. The other two teachers I had lunch with

got loads of stuff on their 6 inch sub, bag of chips (which gives me

more trouble than they are worth with clogs) soda and a cookie. I was

happy with my tuna sub and I was still chewing it when they were done

with their meal. I sat down and started working on some of the lettuce

while they were still ordering. But the bread was a carb. Normally

that is the only time I have bread. I am not one of those people who

was used to eating bread with every meal. Its only in sandwiches. Most

of the time I would rather have hot sausage with peppers and onions (my

dinner last night) without the bread, or some form of seafood like the

shrimp cocktail I fixed for my lunch today. I do a lot of home made

chili. I also snack on soy chips (which have protein in them).

Jodi Brown wrote:

> Ok -- Now I will throw my dumb question out there, too...

> Do the rest of you not restrict your carbs everyday?

> Maybe I am on a perpetual protein train...hell -- maybe I'm the

> conductor and didn't know it...

> My main focus everyday is protein...I don't eat surgar or many carbs

> ever since surgery...

>

> dazed and confused,

> jb-bb

>

> Melody wrote:

>

> Wait a minute...maybe I've got a boarding pass for the wrong train?

> Darcy says she'll not be boarding because she's waiting for an order,

> and I believe I read someone else saying the same thing. Now I'm

> confused. So here's my question:

>

> Isn't it possible to do the protein train thing without protein

> drinks/shakes? I haven't done supplements like those since early post-

> op. I thought (and maybe this is where I got off track, pun intended)

> that ridin' the protein train meant that you were restricting your

> carbs in favor of a high-protein diet, regardless of the protein

> source. I've always thought the protein source was optional.

>

> Will someone please help set me on the right track?

>

> Melody

>

[Guest guest]

Jodi,

For me it is about re-focusing on what I eat and not turning little

lapses into a habit. I don't believe that I get very far off-track and I

am certainly not stuffing in white carbs - where the heck would I put

them anyway??? However I do tend to keep sticking my hand in the party

mix jar or think about a second latte for the day. This is especially a

problem when doing brain work at my desk. I still crave that evening

cocktail - it was part of my relaxation ritual for years. What I read on

the " Off-track " group terrifies me - people who have drifted way off

course with huge regains. I don't want to be one of them. So the protein

train is my way to stop a bad habit from starting. That's all.

I still a newbie and I lost my weight so quickly that I don't feel I

have adjusted to my new way of life. The new good habits are still not

fully established. I'm working on it. My body may be cured but my brain

isn't yet and maybe never will be. So for now - I'm riding that train.

Carol

Re: Re: Protein train...off track?

Right -- I understand this. This is how I love my life everyday

(although my ratio of carbs is far less than my protein) -- so if we are

living this on a daily basis, I don't understand the protein train

idea...

I don't know -- it almost seems like we are trying to 'fad diet' again

to kick our systems into working when we get stuck. I must be missing

something...

jb-bb

softswtwhisper@... wrote:

Jodi:

My doctor's plan is to just eat more protein than carbs, which I do.

He

says you need some carbs in your diet to have a healthy balance.

[Guest guest]

Jodi,

For me it is about re-focusing on what I eat and not turning little

lapses into a habit. I don't believe that I get very far off-track and I

am certainly not stuffing in white carbs - where the heck would I put

them anyway??? However I do tend to keep sticking my hand in the party

mix jar or think about a second latte for the day. This is especially a

problem when doing brain work at my desk. I still crave that evening

cocktail - it was part of my relaxation ritual for years. What I read on

the " Off-track " group terrifies me - people who have drifted way off

course with huge regains. I don't want to be one of them. So the protein

train is my way to stop a bad habit from starting. That's all.

I still a newbie and I lost my weight so quickly that I don't feel I

have adjusted to my new way of life. The new good habits are still not

fully established. I'm working on it. My body may be cured but my brain

isn't yet and maybe never will be. So for now - I'm riding that train.

Carol

Re: Re: Protein train...off track?

Right -- I understand this. This is how I love my life everyday

(although my ratio of carbs is far less than my protein) -- so if we are

living this on a daily basis, I don't understand the protein train

idea...

I don't know -- it almost seems like we are trying to 'fad diet' again

to kick our systems into working when we get stuck. I must be missing

something...

jb-bb

softswtwhisper@... wrote:

Jodi:

My doctor's plan is to just eat more protein than carbs, which I do.

He

says you need some carbs in your diet to have a healthy balance.

[Guest guest]

ok...I understand that logic. Thanks...

jb-bb

Carol Fallon wrote:

Jodi,

For me it is about re-focusing on what I eat and not turning little

lapses into a habit. I don't believe that I get very far off-track and I

am certainly not stuffing in white carbs - where the heck would I put

them anyway??? However I do tend to keep sticking my hand in the party

mix jar or think about a second latte for the day. This is especially a

problem when doing brain work at my desk. I still crave that evening

cocktail - it was part of my relaxation ritual for years. What I read on

the " Off-track " group terrifies me - people who have drifted way off

course with huge regains. I don't want to be one of them. So the protein

train is my way to stop a bad habit from starting. That's all.

I still a newbie and I lost my weight so quickly that I don't feel I

have adjusted to my new way of life. The new good habits are still not

fully established. I'm working on it. My body may be cured but my brain

isn't yet and maybe never will be. So for now - I'm riding that train.

Carol

Re: Re: Protein train...off track?

Right -- I understand this. This is how I love my life everyday

(although my ratio of carbs is far less than my protein) -- so if we are

living this on a daily basis, I don't understand the protein train

idea...

I don't know -- it almost seems like we are trying to 'fad diet' again

to kick our systems into working when we get stuck. I must be missing

something...

jb-bb

softswtwhisper@... wrote:

Jodi:

My doctor's plan is to just eat more protein than carbs, which I do.

He

says you need some carbs in your diet to have a healthy balance.

[Guest guest]

ok...I understand that logic. Thanks...

jb-bb

Carol Fallon wrote:

Jodi,

For me it is about re-focusing on what I eat and not turning little

lapses into a habit. I don't believe that I get very far off-track and I

am certainly not stuffing in white carbs - where the heck would I put

them anyway??? However I do tend to keep sticking my hand in the party

mix jar or think about a second latte for the day. This is especially a

problem when doing brain work at my desk. I still crave that evening

cocktail - it was part of my relaxation ritual for years. What I read on

the " Off-track " group terrifies me - people who have drifted way off

course with huge regains. I don't want to be one of them. So the protein

train is my way to stop a bad habit from starting. That's all.

I still a newbie and I lost my weight so quickly that I don't feel I

have adjusted to my new way of life. The new good habits are still not

fully established. I'm working on it. My body may be cured but my brain

isn't yet and maybe never will be. So for now - I'm riding that train.

Carol

Re: Re: Protein train...off track?

Right -- I understand this. This is how I love my life everyday

(although my ratio of carbs is far less than my protein) -- so if we are

living this on a daily basis, I don't understand the protein train

idea...

I don't know -- it almost seems like we are trying to 'fad diet' again

to kick our systems into working when we get stuck. I must be missing

something...

jb-bb

softswtwhisper@... wrote:

Jodi:

My doctor's plan is to just eat more protein than carbs, which I do.

He

says you need some carbs in your diet to have a healthy balance.