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I wonder if my pediatrician from when my son was

younger (I eventually had to leave him) will remember

my comments regarding this. I used to tell him over

and over how much better and brighter my son seemed

when he ran a fever. It still happens to this day

(depending on what is triggering the fever I think).

I experience the same thing - have all my life.

--- Doris and Steve <sjsmith@...>

wrote:

> Nice work Dr Zimmerman!

>

>

> Fever can loosen grip of autism, says study

> Web posted at: 12/3/2007 1:29:3

> Source ::: REUTERS

>

> CHICAGO . Fever can temporarily unlock autism's grip

> on children,

> a finding that could shed light on the roots of the

> condition and perhaps

> provide clues for treatment, researchers reported

> yesterday.

> It appears that fever restores nerve cell

> communications in

> regions of the autistic brain, restoring a child's

> ability to interact and

> socialise during the fever, the study said.

>

> The results of this study are important because they

> show us that

> the autistic brain is plastic, or capable of

> altering current

> connections and forming new ones in response to

> different experiences or

> conditions, " said Dr Zimmerman, a pediatric

> neurologist at

> Baltimore's

> Kennedy Krieger Institute, who was one of the study

> authors.

>

> The study, published in the journal Pediatrics, was

> based on 30

> children with autism aged 2 to 18 who were observed

> during and after a

> fever of at least 100.4 degrees Fahrenheit (38 C).

>

> More than 80 percent of those with fever showed some

> improvements

> in behavior during it and 30 percent had dramatic

> improvements, the

> researchers said. The change involved things like

> longer concentration

> spans,

> more talking, improved eye contact and better

> overall relations with

> adults and other children.

>

> Zimmerman's team said the fever effect had been

> noted anecdotally

> in the past by parents and doctors.

>

> Lee Grossman, president and chief executive officer

> of the Autism

> Society of America, said he had noticed it in his

> own son, who is now 20.

>

> But he noted in an interview that the study's

> authors said

> expanded research was needed on the fever effect and

> its implications

>

>

>

> http://www.thepeninsulaqatar.com/Display_news.asp?

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>

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Anyone have thoughts on a child that " never " runs a fever? Or very

rarely. The only time I remember him having a fever was at age 2 1/2

with a fever of 103 for 3 days....diagnosis....roseola.

>

> > Nice work Dr Zimmerman!

> >

> >

> > Fever can loosen grip of autism, says study

> > Web posted at: 12/3/2007 1:29:3

> > Source ::: REUTERS

> >

> > CHICAGO . Fever can temporarily unlock autism's grip

> > on children,

> > a finding that could shed light on the roots of the

> > condition and perhaps

> > provide clues for treatment, researchers reported

> > yesterday.

> > It appears that fever restores nerve cell

> > communications in

> > regions of the autistic brain, restoring a child's

> > ability to interact and

> > socialise during the fever, the study said.

> >

> > The results of this study are important because they

> > show us that

> > the autistic brain is plastic, or capable of

> > altering current

> > connections and forming new ones in response to

> > different experiences or

> > conditions, " said Dr Zimmerman, a pediatric

> > neurologist at

> > Baltimore's

> > Kennedy Krieger Institute, who was one of the study

> > authors.

> >

> > The study, published in the journal Pediatrics, was

> > based on 30

> > children with autism aged 2 to 18 who were observed

> > during and after a

> > fever of at least 100.4 degrees Fahrenheit (38 C).

> >

> > More than 80 percent of those with fever showed some

> > improvements

> > in behavior during it and 30 percent had dramatic

> > improvements, the

> > researchers said. The change involved things like

> > longer concentration

> > spans,

> > more talking, improved eye contact and better

> > overall relations with

> > adults and other children.

> >

> > Zimmerman's team said the fever effect had been

> > noted anecdotally

> > in the past by parents and doctors.

> >

> > Lee Grossman, president and chief executive officer

> > of the Autism

> > Society of America, said he had noticed it in his

> > own son, who is now 20.

> >

> > But he noted in an interview that the study's

> > authors said

> > expanded research was needed on the fever effect and

> > its implications

> >

> >

> >

> > http://www.thepeninsulaqatar.com/Display_news.asp?

> >

> > <http://www.thepeninsulaqatar.com/Display_news.asp?>

> > section=World_

> > News & subsect

> >

> >

> ion=Americas & month=December2007 & file=World_News200712031293.xml

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

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Our son goes in our spa heated at 100+ almost everyday, in addition to his

extremely hot showers he likes to take throughout the day. He stays in the spa

about ten to fifteen minutes. He is nonverbal at seven, but what he does is

come hand us the controller. He is the one seeking it out, so we know he likes

it for some reason. Aside from the high temp issue, I wonder if he likes the

muscle relaxation it gives him just like us adults like going in a spa. Our son

has huge anxiety behaviors (tensing, clenching teeth, ocd, etc...), so I ask

myself if he feels relief when he is the heated water environments?

>From: Bill klimas <klimas_bill@...>

>Date: 2007/12/04 Tue AM 07:44:59 CST

>

>Subject: Re: Re: fever study

>

>Now that this subject has come up on the list, I think

>back and I do not remember my son ever running a fever

>of any significance. One or twice he has " felt a

>little warm " and we treated it with Motrin.

>

>What is interesting is he has started to deny himself

>food items that cause him confusion, (Although we did

>our best to keep them out of his diet he used to crave

>them) No more asking " Funyons " , " White cheddar

>popcorn " , Goldfish " . In the mornings he demands toast

>no butter (All through we always used dairy free

>substitute). He does seem to be avoiding foods and

>situations that create issues.

>

>What makes this study interesting is he now showers (

>always has twice a day, good sensory input) In a

>shower that he controls. He set the temp at a

>temperature that is at my upper limit of comfort. I am

>not concerned that he will make it dangerously hot in

>that he is very conscious of the temp. Stepping back

>when he passes a threshold I find too!! hot, he then

>call me to adjust it in that the controls are out of

>reach through the hot shower. I am of the impression

>that he is actively controlling his mental state. Is

>it possible that the high temperature is making him

>more comfortable? Has anyone tried working with their

>child in a hot tub?

>--- meljackmom <meljackmom@...> wrote:

>

>> Anyone have thoughts on a child that " never " runs a

>> fever? Or very

>> rarely. The only time I remember him having a fever

>> was at age 2 1/2

>> with a fever of 103 for 3

>> days....diagnosis....roseola.

>>

>>

>> >

>> > > Nice work Dr Zimmerman!

>> > >

>> > >

>> > > Fever can loosen grip of autism, says study

>> > > Web posted at: 12/3/2007 1:29:3

>> > > Source ::: REUTERS

>> > >

>> > > CHICAGO . Fever can temporarily unlock autism's

>> grip

>> > > on children,

>> > > a finding that could shed light on the roots of

>> the

>> > > condition and perhaps

>> > > provide clues for treatment, researchers

>> reported

>> > > yesterday.

>> > > It appears that fever restores nerve cell

>> > > communications in

>> > > regions of the autistic brain, restoring a

>> child's

>> > > ability to interact and

>> > > socialise during the fever, the study said.

>> > >

>> > > The results of this study are important because

>> they

>> > > show us that

>> > > the autistic brain is plastic, or capable of

>> > > altering current

>> > > connections and forming new ones in response to

>> > > different experiences or

>> > > conditions, " said Dr Zimmerman, a

>> pediatric

>> > > neurologist at

>> > > Baltimore's

>> > > Kennedy Krieger Institute, who was one of the

>> study

>> > > authors.

>> > >

>> > > The study, published in the journal Pediatrics,

>> was

>> > > based on 30

>> > > children with autism aged 2 to 18 who were

>> observed

>> > > during and after a

>> > > fever of at least 100.4 degrees Fahrenheit (38

>> C).

>> > >

>> > > More than 80 percent of those with fever showed

>> some

>> > > improvements

>> > > in behavior during it and 30 percent had

>> dramatic

>> > > improvements, the

>> > > researchers said. The change involved things

>> like

>> > > longer concentration

>> > > spans,

>> > > more talking, improved eye contact and better

>> > > overall relations with

>> > > adults and other children.

>> > >

>> > > Zimmerman's team said the fever effect had been

>> > > noted anecdotally

>> > > in the past by parents and doctors.

>> > >

>> > > Lee Grossman, president and chief executive

>> officer

>> > > of the Autism

>> > > Society of America, said he had noticed it in

>> his

>> > > own son, who is now 20.

>> > >

>> > > But he noted in an interview that the study's

>> > > authors said

>> > > expanded research was needed on the fever effect

>> and

>> > > its implications

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >

>> http://www.thepeninsulaqatar.com/Display_news.asp?

>> > >

>> > >

>> <http://www.thepeninsulaqatar.com/Display_news.asp?>

>> > > section=World_

>> > > News & subsect

>> > >

>> > >

>> >

>>

>ion=Americas & month=December2007 & file=World_News200712031293.xml

>> > >

>> > >

>> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

>> > > removed]

>> > >

>> > >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

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I aim to please!

Dr Zimmerman believes there is a connection between the brain and immune

system

But he's not quite ready to jump on the bus yet.

I continue to talk and debate with him because it's good for both of us.

I learn things and he learns how a parent deals with the situation.

He's always been very nice in discussions even when I ask dumb questions.

He's never said to me 'no' and we've given him all of 's

documentation.

I keep hoping maybe he'll come over to the 'dark side' because we need

some local

resources (as you know).

doris

land

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ldugua <ldugua>

Mon Dec 3, 2007 6:49 am (PST)

thanks Doris for always finding the best stuff for us....I knew Dr

Zimmerman ten years ago when all he did to diagnose was to ask if the

kids lined up their toys...he actually came to hear dr g ten or more

years ago... he has always believed in the immune connection but is not

very advanced in terms of treatment AT ALL.... but there is hope yet for

these people I guess

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Nice work Dr Zimmerman!

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