Guest guest Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 Hi Kavita, I agree with Donna. Our son is 10 and we've been with Dr. G since he was 4 and he still scripts from time to time. I think a combination of medications and speech therapy helped him. He has been taking tenex for about 4 years now and it's helped tremendously, but he started taking it to control hyperactivity. Good luck. Argie On Jan 2, 2009, at 11:08 AM, thefamily007 wrote: > Hi Kavita, > > In my son's case, it just resolved over time as he got better. The > better his brain functioned, the more connected he was with his > environment, the better he responded to speech therapy; the more > meaning he was able to apply to what he said, the more functional his > speech became. Keep in mind, though, that we've been at this for six > years, and only became conversational in the last two years or > so. It's been a long, long process. Some kids' speech develops > faster than his did. > > I can't really pick out a single treatment or medication that helped > the most in our case, but each kid is different. > > HTH, > > Donna > > > > > > Happy New Year to all! > > > > For those whose kids scripted alot and have managed to get more > > functional speech in due course what was the most effective > treatment. > > There were several past posts that stated that scripting was fairly > > common among our kids, what helped SSRI or viral reduction or just > > gradual learning over time. > > > > thanks > > Kavita > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2009 Report Share Posted January 3, 2009 Thanks Donna, Argie and Kristy. Over time the scripting gets more complex used to be a sentence or two now there are full stories and complex language. I do think its some form of language understanding like when we try to learn a foreign language. I believe its some way of figuering how more complex words are put together and scripting is a form of practicing it. I will continue to try to get him more in present time. Thanks again. Kavita > Hi Kavita, > > In my son's case, it just resolved over time as he got better. The > better his brain functioned, the more connected he was with his > environment, the better he responded to speech therapy; the more > meaning he was able to apply to what he said, the more functional his > speech became. Keep in mind, though, that we've been at this for six > years, and only became conversational in the last two years or > so. It's been a long, long process. Some kids' speech develops > faster than his did. > > I can't really pick out a single treatment or medication that helped > the most in our case, but each kid is different. > > HTH, > > Donna > > > > > > Happy New Year to all! > > > > For those whose kids scripted alot and have managed to get more > > functional speech in due course what was the most effective > treatment. > > There were several past posts that stated that scripting was fairly > > common among our kids, what helped SSRI or viral reduction or just > > gradual learning over time. > > > > thanks > > Kavita > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2009 Report Share Posted January 3, 2009 Explain to me more about scripting... what is it exactly & how do you " teach " it? Thanks- > Hi Kavita, > > In my son's case, it just resolved over time as he got better. The > better his brain functioned, the more connected he was with his > environment, the better he responded to speech therapy; the more > meaning he was able to apply to what he said, the more functional his > speech became. Keep in mind, though, that we've been at this for six > years, and only became conversational in the last two years or > so. It's been a long, long process. Some kids' speech develops > faster than his did. > > I can't really pick out a single treatment or medication that helped > the most in our case, but each kid is different. > > HTH, > > Donna > > > > > > Happy New Year to all! > > > > For those whose kids scripted alot and have managed to get more > > functional speech in due course what was the most effective > treatment. > > There were several past posts that stated that scripting was fairly > > common among our kids, what helped SSRI or viral reduction or just > > gradual learning over time. > > > > thanks > > Kavita > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2009 Report Share Posted January 3, 2009 Gees you definately don't want to teach your child to do it. You want functional speech which is still limited for my child. I was thinking out aloud if it had any meaning. Kavita > Hi Kavita, > > In my son's case, it just resolved over time as he got better. The > better his brain functioned, the more connected he was with his > environment, the better he responded to speech therapy; the more > meaning he was able to apply to what he said, the more functional his > speech became. Keep in mind, though, that we've been at this for six > years, and only became conversational in the last two years or > so. It's been a long, long process. Some kids' speech develops > faster than his did. > > I can't really pick out a single treatment or medication that helped > the most in our case, but each kid is different. > > HTH, > > Donna > > > > > > Happy New Year to all! > > > > For those whose kids scripted alot and have managed to get more > > functional speech in due course what was the most effective > treatment. > > There were several past posts that stated that scripting was fairly > > common among our kids, what helped SSRI or viral reduction or just > > gradual learning over time. > > > > thanks > > Kavita > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2009 Report Share Posted January 3, 2009 Our daughter is also a scripter but she seems to be a realistic scripter. What she says usually, or sort of, makes sense for the situation. She doesn't do it all the time but it's never really gone away. Dr. G suggested that we, when she scripts or sings or talks to herself, tell her that's for private time. I can't say that's worked but it didn't make it worse. Good luck, Elaine From: kavita_d_mallik@... Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 16:40:59 -0800 Subject: Re: Re: scripting Thanks Donna, Argie and Kristy. Over time the scripting gets more complex used to be a sentence or two now there are full stories and complex language. I do think its some form of language understanding like when we try to learn a foreign language. I believe its some way of figuering how more complex words are put together and scripting is a form of practicing it. I will continue to try to get him more in present time. Thanks again. Kavita Recent Activity 3 New Members Visit Your Group Biz Resources Y! Small Business Articles, tools, forms, and more. Find helpful tips for Moderators on the Groups team blog. Cat Fanatics on Find people who are crazy about cats. . _________________________________________________________________ Life on your PC is safer, easier, and more enjoyable with Windows Vista®. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/127032870/direct/01/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 The two main approaches I see help with scripting in conjunction with speech therapy are FastForward and the Rapid Prompting Method. FastForward helps organize connections in the brain and RPM constantly focuses on having the child choose and make decisions on their own. I have seen both help reduce scripting... Sincerely, L. Juarez, PhD Candidate, M.S., Marriage and Family Therapist On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 6:08 PM, kavita mallik wrote: Gees you definately don't want to teach your child to do it. You want functional speech which is still limited for my child. I was thinking out aloud if it had any meaning. Kavita > Hi Kavita, > In my son's case, it just resolved over time as he got better. The > better his brain functioned, the more connected he was with his > environment, the better he responded to speech therapy; the more > meaning he was able to apply to what he said, the more functional his > speech became. Keep in mind, though, that we've been at this for six > years, and only became conversational in the last two years or > so. It's been a long, long process. Some kids' speech develops faster > than his did. > I can't really pick out a single treatment or medication that helped > the most in our case, but each kid is different. > HTH, > Donna > >> >> Happy New Year to all! >> For those whose kids scripted alot and have managed to get more >> functional speech in due course what was the most effective > treatment. >> There were several past posts that stated that scripting was fairly >> common among our kids, what helped SSRI or viral reduction or just >> gradual learning over time. >> thanks Kavita > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Hey Elaine - I saw this from January where I still have posts I haven't read. I just wanted to mention one thing about scripting ... My brother and sister typically developed and all grown now of course, and they're highly sociable people, but my brother showed some very subtle early on but pulled out of it except for anxiety issues and a very wierd selective memory ability w/numbers associated with cars and catalog #s for car parts (an ability my dad also had, and my brother looks almost exactly like him) that may be almost half as strong as a savant but not quite that strong - but it is very unusual. They are incredible 'scripters', and they do it for fun, as a way to communicate and cut up with each other. I've always been amazed by their ability to pull lines from any cartoon or movie and tons of song lyrics, and use them playfully in conversation, and over the years have met other people who are 'normal' that can do it too. Of course, they're doing it on purpose and by choice. And they can keep it going so that they can have a conversation by scripting without ever saying a normal sentence - it's hysterical. I think it's a part of the brain that is more activated in them, and of course in our kids, and if your child is having major speech delays, scripting isn't a blessing right then (except that it may be giving them an opportunity to communicate in some cases, which then maybe it is), but I do believe it can go away like my son's echolalia did (not unlike scripting I think but rather the words going on in every day life rather than TV) if they can get well. But if the ability hangs in there after speech is present, then teaching the environments that it's ok to do it in sounds like a good idea. I had things going on in my head (pandas/ocd type things) and tics, etc, for years at a time all the way into adulthood, and one day I would suddenly notice that something that had been a part of my life for years had suddenly vanished. I just wanted to mention that - to keep reinforced that a lot of bad stuff can be going on today that might take a long time to address and help resolve, but those opportunities to improve will keep coming. It doesn't have to be today. I tend to be so hypervigilant (a CFIDS trait, maybe an ocd trait?) over every abnormality I'm observing, and it absolutely exhausts me and can even throw me into despair - at which point I lose all my energy to do the positive things that I can do today. I'm not saying that's you - but it is definitely me... it's just where my own personal thoughts have been today, this week, and I read that word 'hypervigilance' again in a topic of that upcoming CFIDS conference in Nevada, and it dawned on me ... yup - that's what I'm doing again. When I can resist it or 'turn it over', suddenly I find myself with a lot more mental energy to direct to today - and I need every bit that I can get. ________________________________ From: elaine free <elaine4u@...> nids Sent: Saturday, January 3, 2009 8:34:04 PM Subject: RE: Re: scripting Our daughter is also a scripter but she seems to be a realistic scripter. What she says usually, or sort of, makes sense for the situation. She doesn't do it all the time but it's never really gone away. Dr. G suggested that we, when she scripts or sings or talks to herself, tell her that's for private time. I can't say that's worked but it didn't make it worse. Good luck, Elaine groups (DOT) com From: kavita_d_mallik Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 16:40:59 -0800 Subject: Re: Re: scripting Thanks Donna, Argie and Kristy. Over time the scripting gets more complex used to be a sentence or two now there are full stories and complex language. I do think its some form of language understanding like when we try to learn a foreign language. I believe its some way of figuering how more complex words are put together and scripting is a form of practicing it. I will continue to try to get him more in present time. Thanks again. Kavita Recent Activity 3 New Members Visit Your Group Biz Resources Y! Small Business Articles, tools, forms, and more. Find helpful tips for Moderators on the Groups team blog. Cat Fanatics on Find people who are crazy about cats. .. ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ Life on your PC is safer, easier, and more enjoyable with Windows Vista®. http://clk.atdmt. com/MRT/go/ 127032870/ direct/01/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 , This totally reminds me of my husband's family! They are big scripters (especially of Young enstein) and my daughter is following in their footsteps. I keep telling myself it's genetic and there's nothing I can do about it. And some of the things that come out of her mouth are so funny, she uses the phrases totally appropriately. I'm so glad to hear there are other families like mine! At 01:00 PM 2/16/2009, you wrote: >Hey Elaine - I saw this from January where I still have posts I >haven't read. I just wanted to mention one thing about scripting ... >My brother and sister typically developed and all grown now of >course, and they're highly sociable people, but my brother showed >some very subtle early on but pulled out of it except for >anxiety issues and a very wierd selective memory ability w/numbers >associated with cars and catalog #s for car parts (an ability my dad >also had, and my brother looks almost exactly like him) that may be >almost half as strong as a savant but not quite that strong - but it >is very unusual. They are incredible 'scripters', and they do it >for fun, as a way to communicate and cut up with each other. I've >always been amazed by their ability to pull lines from any cartoon >or movie and tons of song lyrics, and use them playfully in >conversation, and over the years have met other people who are >'normal' that can do it too. Of course, they're doing it on purpose >and by choice. And they can keep it going so that they can have a >conversation by scripting without >ever saying a normal sentence - it's hysterical. > >I think it's a part of the brain that is more activated in them, and >of course in our kids, and if your child is having major speech >delays, scripting isn't a blessing right then (except that it may be >giving them an opportunity to communicate in some cases, which then >maybe it is), but I do believe it can go away like my son's >echolalia did (not unlike scripting I think but rather the words >going on in every day life rather than TV) if they can get >well. But if the ability hangs in there after speech is present, >then teaching the environments that it's ok to do it in sounds like >a good idea. I had things going on in my head (pandas/ocd type >things) and tics, etc, for years at a time all the way into >adulthood, and one day I would suddenly notice that something that >had been a part of my life for years had suddenly vanished. > >I just wanted to mention that - to keep reinforced that a lot of bad >stuff can be going on today that might take a long time to address >and help resolve, but those opportunities to improve will keep >coming. It doesn't have to be today. I tend to be so hypervigilant >(a CFIDS trait, maybe an ocd trait?) over every abnormality I'm >observing, and it absolutely exhausts me and can even throw me into >despair - at which point I lose all my energy to do the positive >things that I can do today. I'm not saying that's you - but it is >definitely me... it's just where my own personal thoughts have been >today, this week, and I read that word 'hypervigilance' again in a >topic of that upcoming CFIDS conference in Nevada, and it dawned on >me ... yup - that's what I'm doing again. When I can resist it or >'turn it over', suddenly I find myself with a lot more mental energy >to direct to today - and I need every bit that I can get. > > > > >________________________________ >From: elaine free <<mailto:elaine4u%40live.com>elaine4u@...> ><mailto:nids%40>nids >Sent: Saturday, January 3, 2009 8:34:04 PM >Subject: RE: Re: scripting > >Our daughter is also a scripter but she seems to be a realistic >scripter. What she says usually, or sort of, makes sense for the >situation. She doesn't do it all the time but it's never really gone >away. Dr. G suggested that we, when she scripts or sings or talks to >herself, tell her that's for private time. I can't say that's worked >but it didn't make it worse. >Good luck, >Elaine > >groups (DOT) com >From: kavita_d_mallik >Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 16:40:59 -0800 >Subject: Re: Re: scripting > >Thanks Donna, Argie and Kristy. Over time the scripting gets more >complex used to be a sentence or two now there are full stories and >complex language. I do think its some form of language understanding >like when we try to learn a foreign language. I believe its some way >of figuering how more complex words are put together and scripting >is a form of practicing it. I will continue to try to get him more >in present time. > >Thanks again. > >Kavita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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