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OMG! I could kick myself for not sticking it out longer! When did

everyone show up to the chat?

Cheryl

On Jun 6, 2007, at 11:28 AM, wrote:

> Hi -

> Dr G popped in for a little bit last night.

> He talked about hoping to have an upcoming

> announcement regarding viral genome studies in the

> next month. I asked him if the direction they have

> been going in has changed any and he said emphatically

> said No, rather confirms what they have been trying to

> say for 20 years. If that seems cryptic to some, I

> think - cannot say for sure - it's one of the ways

> they will finally be able to prove the presence of

> chronic active viral infection in CFIDS and

> " Autism/neuroimmune disorders " by a different manner

> more accurately (I hope) than by titers. That's

> the end of what he said, said it wasn't appropriate

> for him to disclose any more at this time, but hopes

> to very soon.

>

> I'll speculate now lol! :)

>

> As so many of us who've had high viral titers (and

> some of us like my one child having negative titers

> when that just shouldn't be) and have been told " It

> doesn't mean anything how high the titers are " by most

> docs, having a better way to document viral load has

> been needed. If you want to read a bit about this, it

> seems like there were some things written up on the

> website for the HHV6 foundation (I read where Dr

> Klimas referenced that group once at a patient seminar

> someone wrote up notes from and posted on co-cure.org

> I think) that explained some of the problems

> identifying and testing for this virus (and surely

> others).

>

> (BTW *Please ... Forgive me for typing from vague

> memory and for choosing not to verify what I'm typing

> first and risking innaccurate info to you guys - if I

> try to do that (verify), I'll get lost in the internet

> and you'll never hear about it. :)

>

> This area of study (if I'm remembering what I think

> I've heard lol!!) should hopefully be a possible

> mechanism to prove otherwise or differently regarding

> the importance of chronic viral infection in

> neuroimmune, where other markers have been useless (ie

> high viral titers that are disregarded as unimportant

> - as well as not consistent as a whole amongst the

> groups). Seems I remember reading what someone typed

> up from a conference including Dr Klimas (anyone know

> where that was?) mentioning " viral fragments " being

> present in higher numbers and some speculation as to

> whether it even requires the entire virus present to

> induce illness. That's a very vague and surely partly

> innacurate description but maybe you get an idea. :)

> Maybe this could also address why some of our kids

> have negative titers to a virus " in hiding " as Dr G

> has described some negatives to HHV6...

>

> Well I shall shut up now because I'm just speculating

> from fragments of memory as to what he's referencing

> and what it will mean. Dr G sounding cryptic can set

> off my imagination so don't take my rambling as his

> statements please. I'm going to do a search on

> mapping viral genomes and see what pops up.

>

> Later-

>

>

> --- Cheryl Lowrance <c.lowrance@...> wrote:

>

> > I was there for about 8 minutes and no one showed

> > up.

> >

> > cheryl

> >

> > On Jun 5, 2007, at 6:19 PM, christinemlittle wrote:

> >

> > > Is anyone joining the chat?

> > >

> > >

> > >

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I *think* that this means that they will be more capable to specifically

identify the viruses that are active in our kids. I'm not sure what that

would mean regarding any change in their treatment... in the short term, I

guess it would depend if there were a safe way to treat those viruses that

was something we weren't already doing, such as Valtrex and Famvir.

Caroline

> From: Curtis and Hackler <thehacks@...>

> Reply-< >

> Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007 14:08:22 -0700 (PDT)

> < >

> Subject: Re: Chat?

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> Can anyone explain how/what this would mean in terms

> of treatment for our kids? Does this mean that since

> they have identified this gene, that it is " fixable " ?

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Caroline

I think you are right on with this, and so it would then mean that

1.they can prove there is one/multiple viral problems in " A " kids,

and 2. develop treatment and target the virus.

>

> I *think* that this means that they will be more capable to

specifically

> identify the viruses that are active in our kids. I'm not sure

what that

> would mean regarding any change in their treatment... in the short

term, I

> guess it would depend if there were a safe way to treat those

viruses that

> was something we weren't already doing, such as Valtrex and Famvir.

>

> Caroline

>

>

> > From: Curtis and Hackler <thehacks@...>

> > Reply-< >

> > Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007 14:08:22 -0700 (PDT)

> > < >

> > Subject: Re: Chat?

> >

> > Can anyone explain how/what this would mean in terms

> > of treatment for our kids? Does this mean that since

> > they have identified this gene, that it is " fixable " ?

>

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I can add my uneducated thoughts too :). I think it

will help w/ identification like Caroline, and that if

studies are done comparing typical controls

w/neuroimmune disorders, autism, CFS, epilepsy, and

such, show the presence of viral loads in these

illnesses and compare to normal controls. Judging

from him saying " what we've known for 20 years " -

which I believe (and I'm only guessing) is that

chronic viral infection is present in these cases but

has just been too difficult to prove in an absolute

enough manner w/out sufficient tools. I got the

impression that so far his treatment and ideas won't

even change - it'll simply be a tool to show the

medical world. ?

--- Caroline Glover <sfglover@...> wrote:

> I *think* that this means that they will be more

> capable to specifically

> identify the viruses that are active in our kids.

> I'm not sure what that

> would mean regarding any change in their

> treatment... in the short term, I

> guess it would depend if there were a safe way to

> treat those viruses that

> was something we weren't already doing, such as

> Valtrex and Famvir.

>

> Caroline

>

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It was like at 6:15 CA time (8:15 my time). Starts a

bit earlier on the days he can join. Odds are you

came in after he left? It was pretty brief...

--- Cheryl Lowrance <c.lowrance@...> wrote:

> OMG! I could kick myself for not sticking it out

> longer! When did

> everyone show up to the chat?

>

> Cheryl

>

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hi sheila can you send me a link to please I think someone did but I cant find it

thanks

thyroid treatment From: gilljohn@...Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 21:35:58 +0100Subject: Re: chat?

hi sheila please will you send me a link so that I can access the chat forum? (I have lost my emails and dont want to ask for more internet help here!!)

thanks,

Gill

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Done!

Luv - Sheila

hi sheila can you send me a link to please I think someone did but I cant find it thanks

thyroid treatment From: gilljohnthurgo (DOT) wanadoo.co.ukDate: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 21:35:58 +0100Subject: Re: chat?

hi sheila please will you send me a link so that I can access the chat forum? (I have lost my emails and dont want to ask for more internet help here!!)

thanks,

Gill

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Done!

Sheila

> hi sheila please will you send me a link so that I can access the chat forum? (I have lost my emails and dont want to ask for more internet help here!!)> > thanks,> > Gill>

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Hi sheila,

not sure if I am having a bad day or just a bit dim but I cant find the link.

thanks maria

thyroid treatment From: sheilaturner@...Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 09:00:51 +0100Subject: Re: chat?

Done!

Luv - Sheila

hi sheila can you send me a link to please I think someone did but I cant find it thanks

thyroid treatment From: gilljohnthurgo (DOT) wanadoo.co.ukDate: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 21:35:58 +0100Subject: Re: chat?

hi sheila please will you send me a link so that I can access the chat forum? (I have lost my emails and dont want to ask for more internet help here!!)

thanks,

Gill

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Probably having a bad day - I will be polite. I invited you direct from the Chat website. You should have got the invitation this morning from . All you have to do is to click "Join this Group" that is in the right hand bottom corner.

See yer there ! **Grin**.

Luv - Sheila

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hi sheila please will you send me a link so that I can access the chat forum? (I have lost my emails and dont want to ask for more internet help here!!)

thanks,

Gill

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Did you joion up maria - if you are having difficulties, let me know and I will send you another link.

Anybody else who wants to join our Chat Forum, let me know and I will send you an invitation.

Luv - Sheila

>> Hi sheila,> not sure if I am having a bad day or just a bit dim but I cant find the link.> thanks maria> > > thyroid treatment@...: sheilaturner@...: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 09:00:51 +0100Subject: Re: chat?> > > > > > Done!> > Luv - Sheila> > > > > hi sheila can you send me a link to please I think someone did but I cant find it thanks > > > thyroid treatment@...: gilljohn@...: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 21:35:58 +0100Subject: Re: chat?> > > > hi sheila please will you send me a link so that I can access the chat forum? (I have lost my emails and dont want to ask for more internet help here!!)> > thanks,> > Gill> > > The next generation of MSN Hotmail has arrived - Windows Live Hotmail > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.10/1092 - Release Date: 25/10/2007 13:14> > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________> The next generation of MSN Hotmail has arrived - Windows Live Hotmail> http://www.newhotmail.co.uk>

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hi sheila, I didn't manage to get there. I tried everything you said but it just kept taking me TPA main page. I didn't get a email from . so I dont know what happening maybe I am doing something wrong

thyroid treatment From: sheilaturner@...Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 09:56:09 +0000Subject: Re: chat?

Did you joion up maria - if you are having difficulties, let me know and I will send you another link.

Anybody else who wants to join our Chat Forum, let me know and I will send you an invitation.

Luv - Sheila

>> Hi sheila,> not sure if I am having a bad day or just a bit dim but I cant find the link.> thanks maria> > > thyroid treatment@...: sheilaturner@...: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 09:00:51 +0100Subject: Re: chat?> > > > > > Done!> > Luv - Sheila> > > > > hi sheila can you send me a link to please I think someone did but I cant find it thanks > > > thyroid treatment@...: gilljohn@...: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 21:35:58 +0100Subject: Re: chat?> > > > hi sheila please will you send me a link so that I can access the chat forum? (I have lost my emails and dont want to ask for more internet help here!!)> > thanks,> > Gill> > > The next generation of MSN Hotmail has arrived - Windows Live Hotmail > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.10/1092 - Release Date: 25/10/2007 13:14> > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________> The next generation of MSN Hotmail has arrived - Windows Live Hotmail> http://www.newhotmail.co.uk>

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I will send you another invitation from the Chat group - we will get you there yet.Wait for it coming very shortly. This will be to your private email address.

Luv - Sheila

Re: chat?> > > > hi sheila please will you send me a link so that I can access the chat forum? (I have lost my emails and dont want to ask for more internet help here!!)> > thanks,> > Gill> > > The next generation of MSN Hotmail has arrived - Windows Live Hotmail > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.10/1092 - Release Date: 25/10/2007 13:14> > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________> The next generation of MSN Hotmail has arrived - Windows Live Hotmail> http://www.newhotmail.co.uk>

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