Re: speaking beyond my evolution - Jan

[Guest guest]

Jan,

I noticed that I forgot to respond to your post. You said: " Thanks

for allowing me to have a dialog with you about this.

Blessings - Jan "

You are welcome. I always enjoy what Jan has to say!

Happy Holidays, Steve D.

-- In Loving-what-is , " jan " <scarlett_jt@y...> wrote:

> " SteveDaily " wrote:

> > Dear Jan:

> >

> > I love

> > how the ego can trick me into trying to go beyond my own

evolution,

> > but then again, is that truly possible? Not really.

>

> And then says - don't go beyond your own evolution. I guess I

> agree with her story....for you if it works differently, okay.

>

> > It occurs to me that my belief in a concept of the existence

of " my

> > spiritual evolution " is simply another trick I play on myself

which

> > when believed, keeps me from the awareness of who I really am.

>

> For me, I don't know where I am. But my body is very clear. When I

> pay attention to my body as I dialog, my body gives me clear signals

> that what I'm speaking is truth for me or a lie. Eckhardt Tolle

says

> that the mind lies, the body does not. Mind lies, feelings do not.

> So once again the core for me is taking my awareness from my

cognitive

> self and focusing my attention on what my body/heart is

communicating

> to me.

>

> I agree with Tim's quote - when you do the work in your mind you

> disassociate. For me, if your words were coming out of my mouth,

I'd

> have to be disassociating from myself - disconnected from my

feelings.

>

> These are just my reflections and I'm noticing a big change in my

> understanding or need to have people show up and know when clearly

> they simply don't.

>

> For me this is another dissolution of my mother issues. My mother

> always had a stance of knowing - a clear belief in her distorted

> reality that was so strong - I bought it - she was very clear in

> telling me what was true, what my feelings should be in a given

> moment, what I was saying was crazy or lies. She was clear that her

> confusion was the way it was and didn't allow for my experience.

>

> Sometimes I feel that you and john come across to me in a similar

> fashion. In the past, I felt hurt by it, because from you, just as

> from my mother, I'm waiting for that expansiveness that comes when

> someone validates rather than repudiates my being. This for me was

> 's gift.

>

> It is also the gift of the Pathway. When you facilitate in the

> Pathway, you must simply listen - no advice - no " parental "

comments -

> at the end simply - I learned, I appreciated (similar parallels in

my

> own life) statements. For me - powerful stuff teaching me about

> rescuing, distancing, and merging behaviors - which are basically

> abandoning behaviors that I appear to have.

>

> Thanks for allowing me to have a dialog with you about this.

> Blessings - Jan

>

>

> >

> > Blessings, Steve D.