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Most docs, especially endos, think that everyone converts enough T4 to T3, because we would be dead if we did not. Well, we might convert enough to stay alive, but some of us do not convert enough for optimal health.Tina Yee wrote: Hi JanThat is true. In my case, all of my TSH tests in the past several years shows some consistency in that it was always somewhere in the 2.x range. If you look at my TSH results, my

results have started to creep up as I am getting older (I'm 36 now).It is the T4 and the T3 which are numbers that endos and other doctors that prescribe thyroid medication should be looking. However, my endo has only tested Free T4 and has not requested any T3 tests. I wish she would have done that b/c I never knew what my T3 levels were since no docs have requested this of me.Thanks Jan for your input!Tina>> That is not a significant variation in TSH. TSH can vary by as much as three whole (3.0) points in any 24-hour period.> > In any case, once you are on thryoid meds, the TSH does give not a very accurate picture of your actual thyroid hormone levels.> > TSH is a

pituitary hormone, not a thyroid hormone. .

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I am not sure exactly how the antibodies work. You might ask the doc next time you go and then report back to us what he told you.rgrprop wrote: Isn't this where the issue of the antibodies comes in to play? Can't they attack the T4, the T3 and this whole conversion process? >> Most docs, especially endos, think that everyone converts enough T4 to T3, because we would be dead if we did not. Well, we might convert enough to stay alive, but some of us do not convert enough for optimal health.>

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Finding a doc willing to Rx Armour is just your first hurdle. Getting him to keep you adequately medicated is the second. As one with a high estrogen level, it is doubly important that you get the Free T3 and free t4 tests, not the Totals and definitely not the older thyroid panel with the T4, T3 Uptake and FTI. Do let us know how it goes. Tina Yee wrote: That worries me to no end because if the majority of doctors are not open-minded enough to use natural (such as Armour) or combination therapies (such as adding Cytomel to Synth T4) there are plenty of reasons why some patients encounter difficulties with T4 to T3 conversion. Examples are high estrogen-level patients and also high cortisol-level patients. For me, I fall into both of these categories.Now, I'm thinking about trying Armour. Will let you know a doc that I will talk to today (Internal Medicine doc) will prescribe Armour. His nurse told me last week that he does.Tina> >> > That is not a significant variation in TSH. TSH can vary by as > much as three whole (3.0) points in any 24-hour period.> > > > In any case, once you are on thryoid meds, the TSH does give not > a very accurate picture of your actual thyroid hormone levels.> > > > TSH is a pituitary hormone, not a thyroid hormone.> > > > > Recent Activity> > 2> New Members> > Visit Your Group >

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Well, endos that say stuff like that have absolutely no common sense, and this is why------We are in their offices because we ARE feeling mostly dead! How's that for a reply to the idiots that say these things? Might as well say it, if you don't plan on going back, and it isn't assault, so they can't get us for stating what we think. You can have a 10 yr degree in anything including medicine, but still have absolutely no horse sense, and this is the way that I see it.

Re: Re: New lab range in use - yea!

Most docs, especially endos, think that everyone converts enough T4 to T3, because we would be dead if we did not. Well, we might convert enough to stay alive, but some of us do not convert enough for optimal health.

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> Isn't this where the issue of the antibodies comes in to play? Can't

> they attack the T4, the T3 and this whole conversion process?

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The center you visited that said this is absolutely on target on this

particular thing.

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> Will do. I'm seeing him on the 9th.

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> When I went to the Fibro and Fatigue Center in June '04, they told

> me that the anti-bodies attacked the whole process. It will be

> interesting to see what the doc says.

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Do you remember my "other" name? endophobia! wrote: Well, endos that say stuff like that have absolutely no common sense, and this is why------We are in their offices because we ARE feeling mostly dead! How's that for a reply to the idiots that say these things? Might as well say it, if you don't plan on

going back, and it isn't assault, so they can't get us for stating what we think. You can have a 10 yr degree in anything including medicine, but still have absolutely no horse sense, and this is the way that I see it. Re: Re: New lab range in use - yea! Most docs, especially endos, think that everyone converts enough T4 to T3, because we would be dead if we did not. Well, we might convert enough to stay alive, but some of us do not convert enough for optimal health. __________________________________________________

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Don't forget the new golf course at Texas Tech. They expect it to be on the PGA

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of years. Our son in law played it in June and LOVED it.

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--- rgrprop wrote:

> You know, Carol, I saw that, but I didn't want to create any

> pressure for you to coordinate a schedule to socialize. I know how

> sick you've been, and the trip is hard on top of it. Anyway, DH

> needs any long weekends he can get away from clients, so I decided

> to make the appointment closer to a weekend, in case we decide to

> stay and let him get some golf in. I swear he'd tee off in a cow

> pasture, if he saw a pitchfork standing up with a hat on top of it

> at the other end.

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> We'll definitely have to try to coordinate in the future!

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> Sara

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> PS - if anyone else is in Lubbock on the 9th or 10th, and wants to

> meet for coffee, let me know. We're driving on the 9th, and appt. is

> at 4pm, so we'd have to meet after that. And there's a chance we

> will drive back to Dallas on the 10th.

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