Re: Regain -- A PLAN IS NEEDED

[Guest guest]

Where do we go from here? I NEED A PLAN. Something like, each

week

> we all agree to try to change one of our bad habits. Example:

> starting Sunday, we all monitor our water intake. We try to drink

> the recommended amount per day.

>

> What is the recommended amount of water per day for us " oldies " ???

> ~~ Shirley

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Shirley

I understand your frustration. It's normal, it's human to feel that

way. Now quit beating yourself up and be proud that your ready to

try and make some positive changes(((((hugs)))))

Ok, lets try to work on the problem.... Part of the problem here

is...we can talk generic things...but YOUR answer(solution) may be

different than MINE. However, I do agree that small changes can add

up to big results..IF you keep it up.

I think your water idea is a SUPER, EXCELLENT place to start for

several reasons.

*It's summer time and as DSers we are more prone to dehydration than

a Normie.

*Thirst can be mistaken for hunger...so we eat when we should drink

(I do this alot)

*Being dehydrated slows your metabolism...which can lead to weight-

gain.

*Dehydration can trigger both mental and physical fatigue and it can

lead to achy backs/joints/muscles.

Ok, Shirley...I will pick up your challenge and join you. Starting

Sunday I will make every effort to monitor my water intake.

What is the recommended amount of water for us oldies...lol...the

same as for Normies. The problem is How much for anyone. That

depends on many factors...man, woman, tall, short, physically

active, a couch potato...you get the idea. Some of the GENERIC

recommendations are anywhere from 6-10 (8oz) glasses of water a

day. Many say 64 fluid ounces, 2 liters, or....1/2 your weight in

ounces (using that formula..I weigh 150, so I would need 75 ounces

of water/fluid a day) Since I am feeling dehydrated anyway, I'm

going to aim for 64 ounces of water a day and let the rest of my

fluids come from the food I eat.

Raising my glass of water and toasting to better health and a

smaller butt.

Hugs

Jo

[Guest guest]

> I need a plan, My problem is I don't want a plan. If a plan worked

for me,

> I never would have needed the DS in the first

place! Mel

>

I am right there with you. A plan never worked for me either - at least

not for long. The DS has been the most successful *diet* venture I have

ever been on. I knew going into it that my head hunger and bad habits

would not be changed by my guts being rearranged - and that has been

true. I have had regain. Do I long to wear my size 4 black slacks? -

you bet I do! Will I ever wear them again? I highly doubt it. Will I

battle this regain? who knows? at the moment I don't have the energy

for it. I guess I am content enough. I just bought myself a new pair of

capris in a bigger size. It was sad. But it is not the end of the

world. Pre-DS I would have killed to be this size!

hugs, cindy lee

rebounded from a size 4 in fall 2004 to a size 10 now

[Guest guest]

> Where do we go from here? I NEED A PLAN. Something like, each week

> we all agree to try to change one of our bad habits. Example:

> starting Sunday, we all monitor our water intake. We try to drink

> the recommended amount per day.

>

> What is the recommended amount of water per day for us " oldies " ???

> ~~ Shirley

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Hi SHirley

This is an ongoing battle for me. I know when I am on my best plan it

works. But alas, as always I go off it again and regain. However, I

just get back on that old horse and try again. I know your pain...

That being said, what has worked for me in the past and now...I might

add.... is giving up one thing a week. One week I give up bread, the

next chips, the next soda, the next candy, the next deserts, the next

ice cream (it is not a desert- it is a way of life!), the next pasta.

Not necessarily in that order tho-

I make a list of things I know arent good for me to be eating, then

subtract one thing a week.

It helps me begin....going cold turkey with all has never worked. i

feel to deprived. This way I start out slow and build momentum...

As for the water, try for 64oz. Every time you feel hungry, take a

big drink and then try to eat what you were hungry for (dont do this

with your regular meal -protien etc. Just when you feel like

snacking) After a while you will crave the water and the snack will

be forgotten...

As for exercise...mmm. I think it is necessary. But only if you are

going to do it. So park farther away from things. Walk in instead of

drive thru, change little things like that and you will notice a

difference.Do something fun, like Jos water aerobics, or my tae-bo.

You end up exercising and having fun, and dont mind the exercise.

hth, just my 2 cents!

good luck hugs,

Sharon in Onyx

who is working on the water too....since Jo quit praying off my

lbs...lol/ and I am STILL sitting easy..sigh

[Guest guest]

> 1/2 your wt in oz? 220....110 oz? Damned Jo, you want me to

drown??

lol...I know, I know. I didn't say " I " think you need that

much..just that it is one of the recommended formula's that floats

out there in the world. Plus you have to remember that the formula

doesn't mean how much " water " you need to drink, but how much

fluids " your " body needs. After all a larger body needs more

because our bodies are somewhere around 80% fluid...thus, bigger

bodies need more fluid. We get fluids when we eat a juicy steak

(otherwise it's called jerky), when we eat a carrot, an apple,

lettuce..really just about any natural foods that isn't dehydrated.

Fluid intake isn't just about water.

There is no " exact " amount a person needs. Just generic

guidelines. If your pee is a pale yellow...your fluids are probably

ok...the darker the pee the more dehydrated you are. So everyone

needs to be on Pee Patrol this summer!

Jo

[Guest guest]

....I will pick up your challenge and join you. Starting

> Sunday I will make every effort to monitor my water intake...

>

> Hugs

> Jo

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Thank you, Jo! This is what I need. Not pats on the back, but a kick

in the butt! I know it's time to stop whining about my inability to

control my eating habits and do something.

Maybe I will REALLY do it if you and others join in... we make a

challenge out of it. Not a contest where someone is deemed the

winner, but where we all win by changing one small habit at a time.

This week, WATER INTAKE. Suggestions for following weeks: less/no

sugar, less/no caffeine, more/some exercise, more/lots more protein,

no eating while watching TV or at the movies, what else? What are

specific issues others are battling?

Let's MAKE A PLAN!!! Our weekly crusade to re-lose what we've lost.

(That would sound very strange to most people

Shirley

[Guest guest]

Shirley

My suggestion would be to make a change in foods one week (what we

do or don't put in our mouths) and a change in physical activity (or

habits, like where we eat) the next...alternating. Also, I'd like

to see our plan reflect not just Weight-loss, but Healthy changes

that lead to weight-loss.

Next week, after we should be nicely hydrated, lets add a 10 minute

burst of " intentional " exercise/activity. This could be something

like put on some disco and dance...take a fast paced walk...Clean

the house as fast as you can, like your going to get the white glove

treatment in 10 minutes! Have wild jungle sex.....lol..or you could

do a more traditional form of exercise like crunches, using hand

weights....(folks, even if your exercising, try joining us with an

additional burst of activity to up your metabolism)

Vicki...sure we can report each day how we did...lets just be

considerate to others who don't want to read the report and make

sure our subject line reflects our topic. How about we use " OUR

PLAN " And we can modify it with OUR PLAN-Report or OUR PLAN-New

Challenge

Hugs

Jo

[Guest guest]

.... Do I long to wear my size 4 black slacks? -

> you bet I do! Will I ever wear them again? I highly doubt it. Will I

> battle this regain? who knows? at the moment I don't have the energy

> for it. I guess I am content enough. I just bought myself a new pair

of

> capris in a bigger size. It was sad. But it is not the end of the

> world. Pre-DS I would have killed to be this size!

>

> hugs, cindy lee

> rebounded from a size 4 in fall 2004 to a size 10 now

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Hi . Just wanted to say it might be easier to be " content

enough " if I had ever been able to put one leg into a size 4 let alone

a size 10! At my lowest weight I wore a baggy 18. Recently bought a

size 20 skirt.

~~Shirley

[Guest guest]

How about we report our day to each other and tell each other what we

did differently?

Vicky

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VICKY ! I LOVE YOU!

That sounds like the " other group " I was talking about, but without

having to start an actual separate group.

I am ABSOLUTELY for it!!! I'd still like to have a weekly " special

project " -- like water, sugar, etc. Okay with you??

~~Shirley

[Guest guest]

Have wild jungle sex.....lol..> Hugs

> Jo

Now that is my idea of exercise!!!!!

poor,poor exhausted Mike! lol

SinO

>

[Guest guest]

Have wild jungle sex.....lol..

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??????????????

Is that stuff still around????? LOL

I may joke about this, but I am one

that needs the excerise really bad,

I hate moving around so my head sweats

just don;t like the trickle of wetness

dripping from my hair...We all have our

strangness..LOL I don't sweat under my arms

anymore so its gotta go somewhere..lol

Pat

[Guest guest]

Marta, Jo, Vicki, Ladies (and Gents, if you are lurking out there),

I am so happy that there are others willing to join me in this

PLAN. If it works, I want dibs to the book and movie rights!

Of course, any and all may follow our lead, but so far we have Jo,

Vicki, Marta and me who have said they want to participate by doing

the DAILY REPORT.

Who else is game??? And it is kind of a GAME, don't you think? A

Game we play with ourselves - or our little egos. I have always

said I have a little Angel on one shoulder and a little Devil on the

other. It just depends on which one I listen to as to whether I

win " the game " .

Jo, why a 10 minute burst of " intentional " exercise/activity? I'm

all for it, but why 10, not 5 or 15? What, if anything specific,

does it do for us? Increase metabolism? Or just gets us off our

butt?

I'm all for alternating FOOD/HABIT changes: a change in foods one

week (what we do or don't put in our mouths) and a change in

physical activity (or habits, like where we eat) the next. Healthy

changes!

So, it's agreed that our Subject lines will reflect the OUR PLAN in

some way... OUR PLAN-Report or OUR PLAN-New Challenge; okay?

~~Shirley