Re: Re: Very sick newbie

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Many folks have experienced a return of their desire on Armour. (Some ladies hve gotten pregnant, too.) You may need other hormones, too. Testosterone in particular is important for sexual arousal and function for both men and women. The testosterone also helps with mood, energy and muscle tone. Not every doc who prescribes hormones knows what he is doing. Sometimes DHEA is given in the hopes that we will convert it to testosterone, but with hypos, nothing really works the way it is supposed to. I was given progesterone and DHEA in the hopes that they would convert to estrogen and testosterone. That did not happen, so my doc prescribed all of them for me. Vicky Hebbe wrote: I know exactly what you are saying... My husband and I are going through really bad times and almost all of it is because of my hypo symptoms... just last night he and I were fighting and he made the snide remark of how he didn't want me because it was his hormones... So I packed my bags and now I don't know what to do... If he were a little more mature and try to understand... But then again I have been denying him for about 2 yrs. Plus I never want to do anything... I thought it was because of my hormones... so last yr I went to my doctor and found out that I was extremly low in progestrone and my DHEA and cortisol was off as well. She put me on progestrone (natural) and DHEA (natural). So I told

my husband you just wait it won't be long before I'm all over you... Welllll that never came. So now I'm hoping that being on the Armour thyroid will bring it back. But I think it may be to late for us. I hope not though.. We'll see... Vicky

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Jan,

Because I feel pretty good on my 90 mg of Armour a day ( split it up taking 3/4 of the tablet in the morning and the other 1/4 at night after reading how some sleep better taking some Armour at night (and it works)) I don't rock the boat with my doctor so that he wants to put me back on Synthroid. I don't, however, have any sex drive and I want to get to where I feel better in that department. I'm 57 and my husband is 55. He is very patient about all of this but I know he would prefer me to be a bit more enthusiastic. I would very much like to find a doctor here in Houston like Candace described, perhaps an ob/gyn who has an understanding of women's endo system who might be willing to check all my hormones to see which ones are out of kilter. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Carolyn

ps: I do plan to go to your list of doctors and check there also. Just very busy at work right now and can't do anything more then read y'alls emails, which I enjoy and have learned a great deal from.

-----Original Message-----From: Texas_Thyroid_Groups [mailto:Texas_Thyroid_Groups ]On Behalf Of Jan Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 10:02 AMTo: Texas_Thyroid_Groups Subject: Re: Re: Very sick newbie

Many folks have experienced a return of their desire on Armour. (Some ladies hve gotten pregnant, too.) You may need other hormones, too. Testosterone in particular is important for sexual arousal and function for both men and women. The testosterone also helps with mood, energy and muscle tone.

Not every doc who prescribes hormones knows what he is doing. Sometimes DHEA is given in the hopes that we will convert it to testosterone, but with hypos, nothing really works the way it is supposed to.

I was given progesterone and DHEA in the hopes that they would convert to estrogen and testosterone. That did not happen, so my doc prescribed all of them for me.

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There are some docs in Houston who are willing to Rx hormones, but we have not yet identified any who are very good at this. Have you approached your GYN about this? Testosterone in particular is important. ", Carolyn S (GE Infra, Energy)" wrote: Jan, Because I feel pretty good on my 90 mg of Armour a day ( split it up taking 3/4 of the tablet in the morning and the other 1/4 at night after reading how some sleep better taking some Armour at night (and it works)) I don't rock the boat with my doctor so that he wants to put

me back on Synthroid. I don't, however, have any sex drive and I want to get to where I feel better in that department. I'm 57 and my husband is 55. He is very patient about all of this but I know he would prefer me to be a bit more enthusiastic. I would very much like to find a doctor here in Houston like Candace described, perhaps an ob/gyn who has an understanding of women's endo system who might be willing to check all my hormones to see which ones are out of kilter. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Carolyn ps: I do plan to go

to your list of doctors and check there also. Just very busy at work right now and can't do anything more then read y'alls emails, which I enjoy and have learned a great deal from. -----Original Message-----From: Texas_Thyroid_Groups [mailto:Texas_Thyroid_Groups ]On Behalf Of Jan Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 10:02 AMTo: Texas_Thyroid_Groups Subject: Re: Re: Very sick newbie Many folks have experienced a return of their desire on Armour. (Some ladies hve gotten pregnant, too.) You may need other hormones, too. Testosterone in particular is important for sexual arousal and function for both men and women. The testosterone also helps with mood, energy and muscle

tone. Not every doc who prescribes hormones knows what he is doing. Sometimes DHEA is given in the hopes that we will convert it to testosterone, but with hypos, nothing really works the way it is supposed to. I was given progesterone and DHEA in the hopes that they would convert to estrogen and testosterone. That did not happen, so my doc prescribed all of them for me.

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Actually I'm hoping to change GYN because he's an old man and my confidence in him has changed. I'm hoping to find a female GYN who will work with me on some of these issues. A friend of mine has one that she likes so I might get her name and go visit with her to find out what she thinks about testing for and working with hormones.

-----Original Message-----From: Texas_Thyroid_Groups [mailto:Texas_Thyroid_Groups ]On Behalf Of Jan Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 10:22 AMTo: Texas_Thyroid_Groups Subject: RE: Re: Very sick newbieThere are some docs in Houston who are willing to Rx hormones, but we have not yet identified any who are very good at this. Have you approached your GYN about this? Testosterone in particular is important. ", Carolyn S (GE Infra, Energy)" wrote:

Jan,

Because I feel pretty good on my 90 mg of Armour a day ( split it up taking 3/4 of the tablet in the morning and the other 1/4 at night after reading how some sleep better taking some Armour at night (and it works)) I don't rock the boat with my doctor so that he wants to put me back on Synthroid. I don't, however, have any sex drive and I want to get to where I feel better in that department. I'm 57 and my husband is 55. He is very patient about all of this but I know he would prefer me to be a bit more enthusiastic. I would very much like to find a doctor here in Houston like Candace described, perhaps an ob/gyn who has an understanding of women's endo system who might be willing to check all my hormones to see which ones are out of kilter. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Carolyn

ps: I do plan to go to your list of doctors and check there also. Just very busy at work right now and can't do anything more then read y'alls emails, which I enjoy and have learned a great deal from.

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So can you buy Testostrone online? If so where?Jan wrote: Many folks have experienced a return of their desire on Armour. (Some ladies hve gotten pregnant, too.) You may need other hormones, too. Testosterone in particular is important for sexual arousal and function for both men and women. The testosterone also helps with mood, energy and muscle tone. Not every doc who prescribes hormones knows what he is doing. Sometimes DHEA is given in the hopes that we will convert it to testosterone, but with hypos, nothing really works the way it is supposed to. I was given progesterone and DHEA in the hopes that they would convert to estrogen and testosterone. That did not happen, so my doc prescribed all of them for me. Vicky Hebbe wrote: I know exactly what you are saying... My husband and I are going through really bad times and almost all of it is because of my hypo symptoms... just last night he and I were fighting and he made the snide remark of how he didn't want me because it was his hormones... So I packed my bags and now I don't know what to do... If he were a little more mature and try to understand... But then again I have been denying him for about 2 yrs. Plus I never want to do anything... I thought it

was because of my hormones... so last yr I went to my doctor and found out that I was extremly low in progestrone and my DHEA and cortisol was off as well. She put me on progestrone (natural) and DHEA (natural). So I told my husband you just wait it won't be long before I'm all over you... Welllll that never came. So now I'm hoping that being on the Armour thyroid will bring it back. But I think it may be to late for us. I hope not though.. We'll see...

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Jan,

I was just wondering if there are any books you recommend...assuming that at some point in the future I may actually be able to absorb and retain information again. :-)

Thanks,

Carol

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Actually I'm hoping to change GYN because he's an old man and my confidence in him has changed. I'm hoping to find a female GYN who will work with me on some of these issues. A friend of mine has one that she likes so I might get her name and go visit with her to find out what she thinks about testing for and working with hormones.

-----Original Message-----From: Texas_Thyroid_Groups [mailto:Texas_Thyroid_Groups ]On Behalf Of Jan Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 10:22 AMTo: Texas_Thyroid_Groups Subject: RE: Re: Very sick newbieThere are some docs in Houston who are willing to Rx hormones, but we have not yet identified any who are very good at this. Have you approached your GYN about this? Testosterone in particular is important. ", Carolyn S (GE Infra, Energy)" wrote:

Jan,

Because I feel pretty good on my 90 mg of Armour a day ( split it up taking 3/4 of the tablet in the morning and the other 1/4 at night after reading how some sleep better taking some Armour at night (and it works)) I don't rock the boat with my doctor so that he wants to put me back on Synthroid. I don't, however, have any sex drive and I want to get to where I feel better in that department. I'm 57 and my husband is 55. He is very patient about all of this but I know he would prefer me to be a bit more enthusiastic. I would very much like to find a doctor here in Houston like Candace described, perhaps an ob/gyn who has an understanding of women's endo system who might be willing to check all my hormones to see which ones are out of kilter. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Carolyn

ps: I do plan to go to your list of doctors and check there also. Just very busy at work right now and can't do anything more then read y'alls emails, which I enjoy and have learned a great deal from.

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No. You need a prescription for testosterone. Vicky Hebbe wrote: So can you buy Testostrone online? If so where?Jan wrote: Many folks have experienced a return of their desire on Armour. (Some ladies hve gotten pregnant, too.) You may need other hormones, too. Testosterone in particular is important for sexual arousal and function for both men and women. The testosterone also helps with mood, energy and muscle tone. Not every doc who prescribes hormones knows what he is doing. Sometimes DHEA is given in the hopes that we will convert it to testosterone, but with hypos, nothing really works the way it is supposed to. I was given progesterone and DHEA in the hopes that they would convert to estrogen and testosterone. That did not happen, so my doc prescribed all of them for me. Vicky Hebbe wrote: I know exactly what you are saying... My husband

and I are going through really bad times and almost all of it is because of my hypo symptoms... just last night he and I were fighting and he made the snide remark of how he didn't want me because it was his hormones... So I packed my bags and now I don't know what to do... If he were a little more mature and try to understand... But then again I have been denying him for about 2 yrs. Plus I never want to do anything... I thought it was because of my hormones... so last yr I went to my doctor and found out that I was extremly low in progestrone and my DHEA and cortisol was off as well. She put me on progestrone (natural) and DHEA (natural). So I told my husband you just wait it won't be long before I'm all over you... Welllll that never came. So now I'm hoping that being on the Armour thyroid will bring it back. But I think it may be to late for us. I hope not though.. We'll see... Vicky

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Testosterone is a controlled substance.

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No. You need a prescription for testosterone. Vicky Hebbe wrote: So can you buy Testostrone online? If so where?Jan wrote:

Many folks have experienced a return of their desire on Armour. (Some ladies hve gotten pregnant, too.) You may need other hormones, too. Testosterone in particular is important for sexual arousal and function for both men and women. The testosterone also helps with mood, energy and muscle tone.

Not every doc who prescribes hormones knows what he is doing. Sometimes DHEA is given in the hopes that we will convert it to testosterone, but with hypos, nothing really works the way it is supposed to.

I was given progesterone and DHEA in the hopes that they would convert to estrogen and testosterone. That did not happen, so my doc prescribed all of them for me. Vicky Hebbe wrote:

I know exactly what you are saying... My husband and I are going through really bad times and almost all of it is because of my hypo symptoms... just last night he and I were fighting and he made the snide remark of how he didn't want me because it was his hormones... So I packed my bags and now I don't know what to do... If he were a little more mature and try to understand... But then again I have been denying him for about 2 yrs. Plus I never want to do anything... I thought it was because of my hormones... so last yr I went to my doctor and found out that I was extremly low in progestrone and my DHEA and cortisol was off as well. She put me on progestrone (natural) and DHEA (natural). So I told my husband you just wait it won't be long before I'm all over you... Welllll that never came. So now I'm hoping that being on the Armour thyroid will bring it back. But I think it may be to late for us. I hope not though.. We'll see...

Vicky

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There are some books by Shomon that are very good. Living with Hypothyroidism is one of them. Thyroid Power by and Karilee Shames is another.Carol wrote: Jan, I was just wondering if there are any books you recommend...assuming that at some point in the future I may actually be able to absorb and retain information again. :-) Thanks, Carol RE: Re: Very sick newbie Actually I'm hoping to change GYN because he's an old man and my confidence

in him has changed. I'm hoping to find a female GYN who will work with me on some of these issues. A friend of mine has one that she likes so I might get her name and go visit with her to find out what she thinks about testing for and working with hormones. -----Original Message-----From: Texas_Thyroid_Groups [mailto:Texas_Thyroid_Groups ]On Behalf Of Jan Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 10:22 AMTo: Texas_Thyroid_Groups Subject: RE: Re: Very sick newbieThere are some docs in Houston who are willing to Rx hormones, but we have not yet identified any who are very good

at this. Have you approached your GYN about this? Testosterone in particular is important. ", Carolyn S (GE Infra, Energy)" wrote: Jan, Because I feel pretty good on my 90 mg of Armour a day ( split it up taking 3/4 of the tablet in the morning and the other 1/4 at night after reading how some sleep better taking some Armour at night (and it works)) I don't rock the boat with my doctor so that he wants to put me back on Synthroid. I don't, however, have any sex drive and I want to get to where I feel better in that department. I'm 57 and my husband

is 55. He is very patient about all of this but I know he would prefer me to be a bit more enthusiastic. I would very much like to find a doctor here in Houston like Candace described, perhaps an ob/gyn who has an understanding of women's endo system who might be willing to check all my hormones to see which ones are out of kilter. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Carolyn ps: I do plan to go to your list of doctors and check there also. Just very busy at work right now and can't do anything more then read y'alls emails, which I enjoy

and have learned a great deal from.

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I hadn't read that, but it makes total sense.

The person who sent me the diabetes/testosterone info.

doesn't drink. He discovered a few years ago that his

testosterone levels were low when it was revealed he

had diabetes.

As for myself, I only drink socially, if at all, but I

do smoke, which does all kinds of horrible things to

the human body. My testosterone levels were at the

top of the range until I took DHEA.

--- Jan wrote:

> Which came first, the chicken or the egg? Consuming

> alcohol can also cause low testosterone. . . .and

> diabetes.

>

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I think some diabetics may metabolize sugar into an alcohol, especially if they have a systemic fungus. My father was such a diabetic. He never drank, but would belch something that smelled of rotting apples and bad wine. He also acted like he was drunk at times. He had also acquired an exotic fungal infection while in the Pacific during the war. The doc had told him that the cure was worse than the disease and did not treat. I would not be surprised if that fungal infection were the cause of his diabetes. Along those same lines, I read

some time ago that some people metabolize alcohol like a hallucinogen. Therefore, it may be possible to space out on potatoes. . . . . Courtenay wrote: I hadn't read that, but it makes total sense.The person who sent me the diabetes/testosterone info.doesn't drink. He discovered a few years ago that histestosterone levels were low when it was revealed hehad diabetes.As for myself, I only drink socially, if at all, but Ido smoke, which does all kinds of horrible things tothe human body. My testosterone levels were at thetop of the range until I took DHEA.--- Jan wrote:> Which came first, the chicken or the egg? Consuming>

alcohol can also cause low testosterone. . . .and> diabetes.

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