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Hello!

I'm reading the book SAFE PEOPLE by Cloud and Townsend, the authors

of BOUNDARIES and wanted to share a few things with you. The book

isn't specifically about borderlines, but is entirely relevant. The

book focuses on the damage that can occur in unsafe relationships and

how we can choose " safe people " to be in relationships with and heal

through. I am also in the process of realizing what other unsafe

patterns and relationships (of a lesser extreme I have found myself

involved in).

The 20 traits of unsafe people

Unsafe people…

1. think they " have it all together " instead of admitting their

weaknesses.

2. are religious instead of spiritual.

3. are defensive instead of being open to feedback.

4. are self-righteous instead of humble.

5. only apologize instead of changing behavior (my nada has

never even apologized!)

6. avoid working on their problems instead of dealing with them.

7. believe they are perfect instead of admitting their faults.

8. blame others instead of taking responsibility.

9. lie instead of telling the truth.

10. are stagnant instead of growing.

11. avoid closeness instead of connecting.

12. are only concerned about " I " instead of " we. "

13. resist freedom instead of encouraging it.

14. flatter us instead of confronting us. (I don't think I can

relate much to flattery either).

15. condemn us instead of forgiving us.

16. stay in parent/child roles instead of dealing with us as

equals.

17. are instable over time.

18. are a negative influence on us, rather than a positive.

19. gossip instead of keeping secrets

20. demand trust instead of earning it.

The book discusses some of the effects of being in long-term unsafe

relationships, such as always being the giver in relationships,

choosing people who invariably let you down, lapses in concentration,

chronic headaches, and gastrointestinal problems to name a few. I was

also intrigued with the discussion of the elements that can keep us

in unsafe relationships, such as, our need to rescue, defensive hope,

fear of confrontation, familiarity, guilt, perfectionism, inability

to judge character, taking on the victim role, and denial of our own

perceptions.

Blessings,

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Hmm sounds like I might need to pick up a copy of this... thanks for

posting, I just added " Safe People " to my Amazon.com Wish List. :)

> Hello!

> I'm reading the book SAFE PEOPLE by Cloud and Townsend, the authors

> of BOUNDARIES and wanted to share a few things with you. The book

> isn't specifically about borderlines, but is entirely relevant. The

> book focuses on the damage that can occur in unsafe relationships

and

> how we can choose " safe people " to be in relationships with and

heal

> through. I am also in the process of realizing what other unsafe

> patterns and relationships (of a lesser extreme I have found myself

> involved in).

>

> The 20 traits of unsafe people

> Unsafe people…

> 1. think they " have it all together " instead of admitting their

> weaknesses.

> 2. are religious instead of spiritual.

> 3. are defensive instead of being open to feedback.

> 4. are self-righteous instead of humble.

> 5. only apologize instead of changing behavior (my nada has

> never even apologized!)

> 6. avoid working on their problems instead of dealing with them.

> 7. believe they are perfect instead of admitting their faults.

> 8. blame others instead of taking responsibility.

> 9. lie instead of telling the truth.

> 10. are stagnant instead of growing.

> 11. avoid closeness instead of connecting.

> 12. are only concerned about " I " instead of " we. "

> 13. resist freedom instead of encouraging it.

> 14. flatter us instead of confronting us. (I don't think I can

> relate much to flattery either).

> 15. condemn us instead of forgiving us.

> 16. stay in parent/child roles instead of dealing with us as

> equals.

> 17. are instable over time.

> 18. are a negative influence on us, rather than a positive.

> 19. gossip instead of keeping secrets

> 20. demand trust instead of earning it.

>

> The book discusses some of the effects of being in long-term unsafe

> relationships, such as always being the giver in relationships,

> choosing people who invariably let you down, lapses in

concentration,

> chronic headaches, and gastrointestinal problems to name a few. I

was

> also intrigued with the discussion of the elements that can keep us

> in unsafe relationships, such as, our need to rescue, defensive

hope,

> fear of confrontation, familiarity, guilt, perfectionism, inability

> to judge character, taking on the victim role, and denial of our

own

> perceptions.

>

> Blessings,

>

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Thanks for posting this, !

What a fantastic resource for KOs, whose self-protective instincts

are usually so damaged by the double-think from our Nadas and Fadas.

When your brain pathways are forming, being given the message

that " this is what taking care of you and keeping your safe looks

like " , when in fact you are being used, abused, shamed, and put at

risk....that messes up the " reflexes " for taking care of and

protecting ourselves.

I think that this list (and the book, which I have already requested

from the library!) can help us in reclaiming our expectation to feel

safe around people, to become sensitized when it is violated, and

allow ourselves to take action.

All of these healthy self-protective feelings and actions may feel

dangerous to KOs, because in our childhoods they would likely have

triggered an abusive backlash by our BP parents.

Hugs,

> Hello!

> I'm reading the book SAFE PEOPLE by Cloud and Townsend...

<<SNIP>>

> The 20 traits of unsafe people...

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Hey there,

As I mentioned before, Cloud and Townsend wrote BOUNDARIES (which was

actually the text that started my journey towards independence).

Other excellent books by these authors that are relevant are THE MOM

FACTOR (the controlling Mom especially), and CHANGES THAT HEAL.

These guys are psychologists and much of their subject matter seems

to fit BPD (though they never label anything). Their writing has a

strong current of Christianity in it as well. Just so ya know before

you check them out. I think that even if you are not a Christian,

there is fabulous advice about rebuilding relationships and healing,

but I thought it would be fair to inform you fully!

Blessings,

> > Hello!

> > I'm reading the book SAFE PEOPLE by Cloud and Townsend...

> <<SNIP>>

>

> > The 20 traits of unsafe people...

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