Guest guest Posted March 28, 2004 Report Share Posted March 28, 2004 Hi Sally: The only thing that works for my dad is to kid him out of his black humour. Yesterday he was in a really bad mood. My dad is rarely in that black of a mood but it hit him yesterday. After taking my kids to swimming class and then the dentist, I arrived at the nh to a very angry father and a tired sister who had been with him all day and was finding it taking her toll on him. When he barked at me, I laughed softly. When he told me my questions would end up making him angry, I told him he would just then have to get angry (he already was at his limit or close to it) since I had been longing all day to hear the sound of his voice. I held his hand the entire time. He tried to pull it away but I held on tightly. By the end, he wasn't in a jolly mood but he was soothed somehow. If nothing else, it made me feel better not to react to his bad humour. Hope this helps. By the way, great question to put out there. Abby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2004 Report Share Posted March 28, 2004 That's a really interesting comment about quality nursing care.... Canvassing Hi guys Been chatting to Prof. Mc. Listen to me - name dropping again!! He's extremely supportive of this group but I understand totally why he would wish to remain in a consultative role as opposed to being here on line. It would be unfair. The guy is busy enough!! He's overwhelmed with work as it is. I contacted him with a direct question, seeking his advice about this whole issue of how we calm our loved ones when they have those terrible bouts of aggression and unreasonable behaviour. He would agree that diazepam (Ativan) and Haldol must be avoided. As to sedatives in general he was finding with his patients that some responded and some did not. There is no definitive treatment. Basically he was finding the same as us - trial and error. He was pointing out that in general the basic human idea is that there must be a drug for it somewhere- it's just a matter of finding it. Well, with LBD, that's not the case. He was saying how he found good nursing care to be as effective as anything else. I found this too. When my dad had confidence in the nurses and they were patient, kind, gentle and reassuring, he was much less violent and did physically calm down. It's not always a matter of drugs - quality nursing counts. He asked me to ask you guys for your opinions and suggestions. So - here's the question; 'When your loved one becomes/became aggressive, unreasonable and agitated, what works/worked to calm them?' My dad needed loving and understanding. Confrontation made him much worse. He needed close physical contact - stroking, caressing. He needed quiet, gentle cajoling. Gentle handling - no rushed, impatient bullying to get things done. LBD scared him shitless! Drugs failed. They were crap in the end - he knew it too. That's why he spit them out and refused any more. BUT you guys might have hit on more ideas - so please share. I would have loved to have had comforts for my dad; soft lighting, soft bed, music, aromatic atmosphere, a hot tub .... he needed so much more! A busy hospital or nursing home can't do this. We need to look at nursing training and the special needs of LBD patients - we need to be more creative, innovative in the care we provide - and yes I know that I'm in the realms of fantasy!! But we can dream can't we? Sally x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2004 Report Share Posted March 28, 2004 Hi Sally, Here's what I do for my mom Olivia: >'When your loved one becomes/became aggressive, unreasonable and agitated, what works/worked to calm them?' When my mom experiences what looks like anxiety I sit her up is she is lying down, give her .75 of valerian, give her some juice or water to drink, rub her back, tell her its' going to be ok, ask her if she needs to go to the bathroom (if no answer I'll take her anyway), rub her left arm that gives her pain even especially if she doesn't answer me when I ask her if it hurts, change her into lighter clothes if she seems very hot, make a fuss of her dolls and hand them over to her, and I sometime use food to distract her. Courage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2004 Report Share Posted March 29, 2004 Great job Abby. I remember when my mother would get angry at me, I would tell her the same thing she use to tell us when we were young. " Scratch your sad place and get over it " . Never really sure exactly what that meant but we always got over it. We knew that meant she wasnt going to tolerate our grumpiness. M > >Reply-To: LBDcaregivers >To: LBDcaregivers >Subject: Re: Canvassing >Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 21:19:40 -0000 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >X-Originating-IP: 69.197.40.8 >X-Sender: BBagam@... >Received: from n26.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.82]) by >mc4-f23.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6824); Sun, 28 Mar 2004 >13:20:00 -0800 >Received: from [66.218.66.159] by n26.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Mar >2004 21:19:44 -0000 >Received: (qmail 4168 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2004 21:19:41 -0000 >Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m19.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; >28 Mar 2004 21:19:41 -0000 >Received: from unknown (HELO n22.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.78) by >mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Mar 2004 21:19:40 -0000 >Received: from [66.218.67.170] by n22.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Mar >2004 21:19:40 -0000 >X-Message-Info: JGTYoYF78jEDEfS2dTIO14WJM2iFGh1R >X-eGroups-Return: >sentto-2141318-27505-1080508782-cat86443=hotmail.com@... >X-Apparently-To: LBDcaregivers >Message-ID: <c47fhc+f5lfeGroups> >In-Reply-To: <001301c414fc$645dcec0$258420d9@Rodgers> >User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 >X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster >X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.78 >X-Yahoo-Profile: abbybb1 >Mailing-List: list LBDcaregivers ; contact >LBDcaregivers-owner >Delivered-To: mailing list LBDcaregivers >Precedence: bulk >List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:LBDcaregivers-unsubscribe > >Return-Path: >sentto-2141318-27505-1080508782-cat86443=hotmail.com@... >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Mar 2004 21:20:00.0835 (UTC) >FILETIME=[6DBFA930:01C4150A] > >Hi Sally: > >The only thing that works for my dad is to kid him out of his black >humour. Yesterday he was in a really bad mood. My dad is rarely in >that black of a mood but it hit him yesterday. > >After taking my kids to swimming class and then the dentist, I >arrived at the nh to a very angry father and a tired sister who had >been with him all day and was finding it taking her toll on him. >When he barked at me, I laughed softly. When he told me my questions >would end up making him angry, I told him he would just then have to >get angry (he already was at his limit or close to it) since I had >been longing all day to hear the sound of his voice. I held his hand >the entire time. He tried to pull it away but I held on tightly. > >By the end, he wasn't in a jolly mood but he was soothed somehow. If >nothing else, it made me feel better not to react to his bad humour. > >Hope this helps. > >By the way, great question to put out there. > >Abby > _________________________________________________________________ Find a broadband plan that fits. Great local deals on high-speed Internet access. https://broadband.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-us/go/onm00200360ave/direct/01/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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