Re: Off Topic Our Sweet, Sweet Dog Bear

[Guest guest]

I am a BIG animal lover. I could go on a and on......But we would run

out of room.

I am sorry to hear about Bear. He's in good hands now, though.

I wish you lived in Houston, cause you could go to the vet I take my

dogs to. I LOVE him.

I have a vet one block away, but chose to go to Dr. Bradey, because

he's sooooooo good, and compasionate.

Have you considered Rimadyl for Bear's pain?

Lynn

[Guest guest]

It sounds like they did you a favor. I would not want them treating my dog.

JMHO,

Kim

From: Texas_Thyroid_Groups [mailto:Texas_Thyroid_Groups ] On Behalf Of mylilsuzyqsSent: Friday, July 21, 2006 9:03 AMTo: Texas_Thyroid_Groups Subject: Off Topic Our Sweet, Sweet Dog Bear

I know this is off topic but I need to vent. We made an appt for ourdog, Bear since he isn't eating much and was limping. He's been diagnosed with hip dysplasia but is doing great on glucosamine, chrondroitin, msm and other joint healthy supplements. He is a small mixed breed dog and is 12 yrs old. He lived on the block behind us to stupid careless people who had the mother dog and pups all outside in the cold. We reported them to the humane society but they said they were being fed and had a shed to go into. SHEESH.... He was born during an ice storm. We used to look over the fence and call them over to toss food over to them. Bear always figured out how to get under the fences to get to our house. Later on, we figured how he did it....our neighbor next to us dug a small hole for him to crawl thru and then she let him thru the opening of our fences so he could come to the back door. We loved our neighbor and her dog loved our yard so we made a doggy door thru the bottom of the fence boards. lolOk, back to Bear and this idiot vet. This pain can flare up when he runs along the back fence and we thought this was the problem. We bought him some liquid glucosamine but it made him sick so we called the vet and this is where the fun begins.......He's not eating his dog food so I am making him chicken soups and giving him meats.His appt was for 5:30 PM on Thursday and 10 minutes before his visit, theycall the house and say they refuse to see him because back in 2001,we brought him in and refused treatment for his hip.....They are SOwrong!! We brought him in but their stupid x ray machine was notworking and we went to another vet for them to xray it. That's whenwe found out he has hip dysplaysia. They are refusing to see himbecause we went elsewhere for his care????? I also asked them why ittook them 8 hrs to let us know???? Sheesh!I sat up with him until 3:00 AM yesterday morning and stressed dosed toabout 60 mgs of hydrocortisone during the course of the day. I guessI will not sleep again tonight since I took so much hydrocortisone. Ithink I feared that they would want to put him to sleep. I went to bed and woke up ok so I will take 5 mgs and see how I am later on when we go to this other vet. We now have an appt tomorrow afternoon with the vet that diagnosedhim in the first place. Do you ever get so mad but don't know what todo.....if they say our dog needed treatment sooner and this stupid drcost him any ills, I think I'll sue him. What a jacka$$...... I am somad at them. And they are concerned for pets? I don't think so.Does anyone know who I can report them to for refusing treatment toour pet? I'm in the Austin, Tx area. grrrrrrSue

[Guest guest]

I'm so sorry to read about your woes Sue. You must be so frustrated. I can't imagine a vet that would refuse to see Bear for a reason like that. There's got to be more to it, maybe in terms of liability for them, but I'd say you're better off without that vet. I'm having a hard time wrapping my brain around that. You must have gone to the same 'Pollyanna' school as me (LOL) because I forget that some of them are in it for the $$$, not because they love animals.

Good luck at your appointment tomorrow. Let us know how that one goes. Our dog had a similar problem and we used the msm/glucosamine for a few years but then had to switch her to actual pain med drops. I can't remember the name of it, but it was 200x stronger than aspirin and kept her out of pain for her last year. Try to be calm when you get there so that you don't put them on the defensive and they can just deal with helping Bear... Judy

Off Topic Our Sweet, Sweet Dog Bear

I know this is off topic but I need to vent. We made an appt for ourdog, Bear since he isn't eating much and was limping. He's been diagnosed with hip dysplasia but is doing great on glucosamine, chrondroitin, msm and other joint healthy supplements. He is a small mixed breed dog and is 12 yrs old. He lived on the block behind us to stupid careless people who had the mother dog and pups all outside in the cold. We reported them to the humane society but they said they were being fed and had a shed to go into. SHEESH.... He was born during an ice storm. We used to look over the fence and call them over to toss food over to them. Bear always figured out how to get under the fences to get to our house. Later on, we figured how he did it....our neighbor next to us dug a small hole for him to crawl thru and then she let him thru the opening of our fences so he could come to the back door. We loved our neighbor and her dog loved our yard so we made a doggy door thru the bottom of the fence boards. lolOk, back to Bear and this idiot vet. This pain can flare up when he runs along the back fence and we thought this was the problem. We bought him some liquid glucosamine but it made him sick so we called the vet and this is where the fun begins.......He's not eating his dog food so I am making him chicken soups and giving him meats.His appt was for 5:30 PM on Thursday and 10 minutes before his visit, theycall the house and say they refuse to see him because back in 2001,we brought him in and refused treatment for his hip.....They are SOwrong!! We brought him in but their stupid x ray machine was notworking and we went to another vet for them to xray it. That's whenwe found out he has hip dysplaysia. They are refusing to see himbecause we went elsewhere for his care????? I also asked them why ittook them 8 hrs to let us know???? Sheesh!I sat up with him until 3:00 AM yesterday morning and stressed dosed toabout 60 mgs of hydrocortisone during the course of the day. I guessI will not sleep again tonight since I took so much hydrocortisone. Ithink I feared that they would want to put him to sleep. I went to bed and woke up ok so I will take 5 mgs and see how I am later on when we go to this other vet. We now have an appt tomorrow afternoon with the vet that diagnosedhim in the first place. Do you ever get so mad but don't know what todo.....if they say our dog needed treatment sooner and this stupid drcost him any ills, I think I'll sue him. What a jacka$$...... I am somad at them. And they are concerned for pets? I don't think so.Does anyone know who I can report them to for refusing treatment toour pet? I'm in the Austin, Tx area. grrrrrrSue

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I agree. That idiot vet's loss is a compassionate vet's gain. Sheesh! Some people just should not be doctors -- to anyone or anything.>> It sounds like they did you a favor. I would not want them treating my dog.> > > JMHO,> Kim

[Guest guest]

Sue, if you ever read Craigs List (pets) for Austin you will see in the last week a bunch of emailsabout a particular bad vet place in Austin..Wells Branch Pet place I think...anyway, one of theposts tell how you can report bad vet practices...Cheers, Tee in Austin

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I know this is off topic but I need to vent. We made an appt for our

dog, Bear since he isn't eating much and was limping. He's been

diagnosed with hip dysplasia but is doing great on glucosamine,

chrondroitin, msm and other joint healthy supplements.

He is a small mixed breed dog and is 12 yrs old. He lived on the

block behind us to stupid careless people who had the mother dog and

pups all outside in the cold. We reported them to the humane society

but they said they were being fed and had a shed to go into.

SHEESH.... He was born during an ice storm. We used to look over the

fence and call them over to toss food over to them. Bear always

figured out how to get under the fences to get to our house. Later

on, we figured how he did it....our neighbor next to us dug a small

hole for him to crawl thru and then she let him thru the opening of

our fences so he could come to the back door. We loved our neighbor

and her dog loved our yard so we made a doggy door thru the bottom of

the fence boards. lol

Ok, back to Bear and this idiot vet. This pain can flare up when he

runs along the back fence and we thought this was the problem. We

bought him some liquid glucosamine but it made him sick so we called

the vet and this is where the fun begins...... .

He's not eating his dog food so I am making him chicken soups and

giving him meats.

His appt was for 5:30 PM on Thursday and 10 minutes before his visit,

they

call the house and say they refuse to see him because back in 2001,

we brought him in and refused treatment for his hip.....They are SO

wrong!! We brought him in but their stupid x ray machine was not

working and we went to another vet for them to xray it. That's when

we found out he has hip dysplaysia. They are refusing to see him

because we went elsewhere for his care????? I also asked them why it

took them 8 hrs to let us know???? Sheesh!

I sat up with him until 3:00 AM yesterday morning and stressed dosed

to

about 60 mgs of hydrocortisone during the course of the day. I guess

I will not sleep again tonight since I took so much hydrocortisone. I

think I feared that they would want to put him to sleep. I went to

bed and woke up ok so I will take 5 mgs and see how I am later on

when we go to this other vet.

We now have an appt tomorrow afternoon with the vet that diagnosed

him in the first place. Do you ever get so mad but don't know what to

do.....if they say our dog needed treatment sooner and this stupid dr

cost him any ills, I think I'll sue him. What a jacka$$..... . I am so

mad at them. And they are concerned for pets? I don't think so.

Does anyone know who I can report them to for refusing treatment to

our pet? I'm in the Austin, Tx area. grrrrrr

Sue

[Guest guest]

Our dog had the hip problems and was diabetic, we use to give him (2) asprin twice a day and it worked pretty well for him. I feel for you, our dog is one of the family!!!

Joni

Off Topic Our Sweet, Sweet Dog Bear

I know this is off topic but I need to vent. We made an appt for ourdog, Bear since he isn't eating much and was limping. He's been diagnosed with hip dysplasia but is doing great on glucosamine, chrondroitin, msm and other joint healthy supplements. He is a small mixed breed dog and is 12 yrs old. He lived on the block behind us to stupid careless people who had the mother dog and pups all outside in the cold. We reported them to the humane society but they said they were being fed and had a shed to go into. SHEESH.... He was born during an ice storm. We used to look over the fence and call them over to toss food over to them. Bear always figured out how to get under the fences to get to our house. Later on, we figured how he did it....our neighbor next to us dug a small hole for him to crawl thru and then she let him thru the opening of our fences so he could come to the back door. We loved our neighbor and

her dog loved our yard so we made a doggy door thru the bottom of the fence boards. lolOk, back to Bear and this idiot vet. This pain can flare up when he runs along the back fence and we thought this was the problem. We bought him some liquid glucosamine but it made him sick so we called the vet and this is where the fun begins...... .He's not eating his dog food so I am making him chicken soups and giving him meats.His appt was for 5:30 PM on Thursday and 10 minutes before his visit, theycall the house and say they refuse to see him because back in 2001,we brought him in and refused treatment for his hip.....They are SOwrong!! We brought him in but their stupid x ray machine was notworking and we went to another vet for them to xray it. That's whenwe found out he has hip dysplaysia. They are refusing to see himbecause we went elsewhere for his care????? I also asked them why ittook them 8 hrs to let

us know???? Sheesh!I sat up with him until 3:00 AM yesterday morning and stressed dosed toabout 60 mgs of hydrocortisone during the course of the day. I guessI will not sleep again tonight since I took so much hydrocortisone. Ithink I feared that they would want to put him to sleep. I went to bed and woke up ok so I will take 5 mgs and see how I am later on when we go to this other vet. We now have an appt tomorrow afternoon with the vet that diagnosedhim in the first place. Do you ever get so mad but don't know what todo.....if they say our dog needed treatment sooner and this stupid drcost him any ills, I think I'll sue him. What a jacka$$..... . I am somad at them. And they are concerned for pets? I don't think so.Does anyone know who I can report them to for refusing treatment toour pet? I'm in the Austin, Tx area. grrrrrrSue

[Guest guest]

Oh, that's so sad about Bear and I am keeping my fingers crossed! I

agree the Vet office should be reported for their apathy and lack of

compassion!

Courtenay, you wouldn't by chance know about cats and cat food,

would you? I've been too scared to check the labels on the stuff

our little cat is getting (probably HFCS and soy!) and your idea is

great. She'd probably feel a lot better eating something with less

c-r-a-p in it, just like we all do.

Did you just like, boil whole chickens and give your dog all but the

bones?

Thank you~

>

> Sue--

>

> On another day, when this crisis is over, I would call

> the ASPCA, and whomever is the Texas governing body

> for vets. Also, were you cleared by anyone to give

> the dogs supplements? I know some supplements convert

> well for dogs, and others do not. The same goes for

> cats-- my mom almost killed our cat with baby aspirin

> once.

>

> Regarding food, 'cause you know I love food and I love

> dogs, so it's going to come up.... I have had two

> excellent vets tell me that the optimum diet for dogs

> is a mixture of chicken and plain white rice, half and

> half.

>

> When my Lucy (chihuahua terrier mix) had a stomach bug

> last year (lost three of her nine pounds in 24 hours),

> the doctor told me to put her on a strict chicken rice

> diet for two weeks, and give her 5 large droppersful

> of Pedialyte per day, plus huge antibiotics. She

> almost had to be hospitalized for dehydration.

>

> I just made a huge batch of chicken and rice, and put

> it into supper-sized baggies and froze them. I was

> very sick at the time, but this was relatively easy to

> do.

>

> I feel for you and for Bear. I hope they figure out

> what's wrong with your lovely dog.

>

> Best--

>

> Courtenay

>

[Guest guest]

Do not give them the cooked bones, they splinter. Give them raw bones. A

raw diet is really the best for cats and dogs. There is junk is so much of

the food. With cats if you make your own you need to add Taurine to

it. Kitty Bloom is a great product to add to raw or cooked diet. There

are some all natural kibbles that are really good. Canidae/ Felidae,

Natural Balance and Nature's Variety are three that I highly

recommend. Chicken Meal is a good thing, chicken meat you get less

protein. Canidae has a good explanation on their website. Science Diet is

JUNK! The majority of vets are tied in with them. Kinda like big pharma

and the doctors. We have created the diabetic cats and dogs. They are

carnivores!!!!! Ok, I could go on, but I need to get dinner going and ice

my feet!

As for the vet just report them to the State Board.

Kate

At 05:26 PM 7/21/2006, you wrote:

>Oh, that's so sad about Bear and I am keeping my fingers crossed! I

>agree the Vet office should be reported for their apathy and lack of

>compassion!

>

>Courtenay, you wouldn't by chance know about cats and cat food,

>would you? I've been too scared to check the labels on the stuff

>our little cat is getting (probably HFCS and soy!) and your idea is

>great. She'd probably feel a lot better eating something with less

>c-r-a-p in it, just like we all do.

>

>Did you just like, boil whole chickens and give your dog all but the

>bones?

>

>Thank you~

>

>

>

> >

> > Sue--

> >

> > On another day, when this crisis is over, I would call

> > the ASPCA, and whomever is the Texas governing body

> > for vets. Also, were you cleared by anyone to give

> > the dogs supplements? I know some supplements convert

> > well for dogs, and others do not. The same goes for

> > cats-- my mom almost killed our cat with baby aspirin

> > once.

> >

> > Regarding food, 'cause you know I love food and I love

> > dogs, so it's going to come up.... I have had two

> > excellent vets tell me that the optimum diet for dogs

> > is a mixture of chicken and plain white rice, half and

> > half.

> >

> > When my Lucy (chihuahua terrier mix) had a stomach bug

> > last year (lost three of her nine pounds in 24 hours),

> > the doctor told me to put her on a strict chicken rice

> > diet for two weeks, and give her 5 large droppersful

> > of Pedialyte per day, plus huge antibiotics. She

> > almost had to be hospitalized for dehydration.

> >

> > I just made a huge batch of chicken and rice, and put

> > it into supper-sized baggies and froze them. I was

> > very sick at the time, but this was relatively easy to

> > do.

> >

> > I feel for you and for Bear. I hope they figure out

> > what's wrong with your lovely dog.

> >

> > Best--

> >

> > Courtenay

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

They prescribed rimadyl yrs ago and he was a zombie. Now he gets

natural hip supplements.

Sue

>

> I am a BIG animal lover. I could go on a and on......But we would

run

> out of room.

> I am sorry to hear about Bear. He's in good hands now, though.

> I wish you lived in Houston, cause you could go to the vet I take my

> dogs to. I LOVE him.

> I have a vet one block away, but chose to go to Dr. Bradey, because

> he's sooooooo good, and compasionate.

> Have you considered Rimadyl for Bear's pain?

> Lynn

>

[Guest guest]

Sue, I have a 10 year old lab with arthritis. She took Rimadyl for 2 years or so and did ok but not great. Recently, we started a new treatment regime that has been great for her. The vet has had lots of success with it. She gets a monthly injection of Adequan (first you start out getting the injection every week, then every 2 weeks, then maintenance is monthly) and takes Tramadol daily. You might want to look into this. During cold spells, I give her a Rimadyl if she is limping and needs some extra ooomph.

Good luck.

Off Topic Our Sweet, Sweet Dog Bear

I know this is off topic but I need to vent. We made an appt for ourdog, Bear since he isn't eating much and was limping. He's been diagnosed with hip dysplasia but is doing great on glucosamine, chrondroitin, msm and other joint healthy supplements. He is a small mixed breed dog and is 12 yrs old. He lived on the block behind us to stupid careless people who had the mother dog and pups all outside in the cold. We reported them to the humane society but they said they were being fed and had a shed to go into. SHEESH.... He was born during an ice storm. We used to look over the fence and call them over to toss food over to them. Bear always figured out how to get under the fences to get to our house. Later on, we figured how he did it....our neighbor next to us dug a small hole for him to crawl thru and then she let him thru the opening of our fences so he could come to the back door. We loved our neighbor and her dog loved our yard so we made a doggy door thru the bottom of the fence boards. lolOk, back to Bear and this idiot vet. This pain can flare up when he runs along the back fence and we thought this was the problem. We bought him some liquid glucosamine but it made him sick so we called the vet and this is where the fun begins.......He's not eating his dog food so I am making him chicken soups and giving him meats.His appt was for 5:30 PM on Thursday and 10 minutes before his visit, theycall the house and say they refuse to see him because back in 2001,we brought him in and refused treatment for his hip.....They are SOwrong!! We brought him in but their stupid x ray machine was notworking and we went to another vet for them to xray it. That's whenwe found out he has hip dysplaysia. They are refusing to see himbecause we went elsewhere for his care????? I also asked them why ittook them 8 hrs to let us know???? Sheesh!I sat up with him until 3:00 AM yesterday morning and stressed dosed toabout 60 mgs of hydrocortisone during the course of the day. I guessI will not sleep again tonight since I took so much hydrocortisone. Ithink I feared that they would want to put him to sleep. I went to bed and woke up ok so I will take 5 mgs and see how I am later on when we go to this other vet. We now have an appt tomorrow afternoon with the vet that diagnosedhim in the first place. Do you ever get so mad but don't know what todo.....if they say our dog needed treatment sooner and this stupid drcost him any ills, I think I'll sue him. What a jacka$$...... I am somad at them. And they are concerned for pets? I don't think so.Does anyone know who I can report them to for refusing treatment toour pet? I'm in the Austin, Tx area. grrrrrrSue