Re: black cohosh

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Many of the herbal remedies are goiterogens and will interfere with your thyroid hormones. Progesterone is a powerful hormone and should not be used unless you are tested to see if you need it and then to adjust your dose. I would suggest that you seek out a doc known to prescribe bio-identical sex and adrenal hormones. maryebe wrote: I think I may be starting perimenopause. I'm having mood swings, difficulty sleeping, very heavy and long periods. I didn't

reallyexpect it so early (I'm in my late 30s), but it seems like the mostlikely explanation since I don't have my typical thyroid symptoms andI've had my labwork done recently. I've been reading about ways tocontrol symptoms, and am planning to start progesterone cream andconsidering trying black cohosh. Can these affect my thyroid? Anysuggestions would be appreciated.

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Mine were not detected on physical exam either

but two were detected with a vaginal ultrasound. One was the size of a

golf ball and the other a little smaller. I had hard long periods –

they would last for 7 days each, so basically I would only have two weeks

without bleeding each month. Then I had a very hard period that lasted

for three entire months, with only about 3 or 4 days of relief. I opted

for birth control pills at the time to control the problem rather than having

surgery (those were the only two options I was given). I decided this

month to get myself off of birth control pills as I don’t like the

effects of them and a doctor I saw last month told me about the risks

associated with them. I saw a doctor on Friday who is open to alternative

therapy and she told me about another option for the fibroids. I don’t

know much about it yet, but it checks my hormones to see how they are on a

day-to-day testing. It is done though saliva. I also have insomnia

(for over a year now) and mood swings. My husband is a very patient

man. J

From: Texas_Thyroid_Groups [mailto:Texas_Thyroid_Groups ] On Behalf Of maryebe

Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006

8:42 PM

To: Texas_Thyroid_Groups

Subject:

Re: black cohosh

I could have one that can't be detected on physical

exam. My gyn

provider suggested I just try progesterone cream before doing a

vaginal ultrasound. Would a fibroid explain all the symptoms? Are

there effective treatments for fibroids? I would expect the heavy

bleeding with a fibroid, but not the insomnia and mood swings.

thanks,

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> Judy

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On Behalf Of maryebe

> Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 7:37 PM

> To: Texas_Thyroid_Groups

> Subject: black cohosh

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> I think I may be starting perimenopause. I'm having mood swings,

> difficulty sleeping, very heavy and long periods. I didn't really

> expect it so early (I'm in my late 30s), but it seems like the most

> likely explanation since I don't have my typical thyroid symptoms and

> I've had my labwork done recently. I've been reading about ways to

> control symptoms, and am planning to start progesterone cream and

> considering trying black cohosh. Can these affect my thyroid? Any

> suggestions would be appreciated.

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>

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Another here. Did you have a tubiligation back when younger? This can

later have these early menopause effects, being as the " high wires " have

been cut, i.e., substances and electrical impulses leading down to the

uterus. This would include amts of progesterone, testosterone, and

estrogens. This was not known way back when, when I had my tubil, but it is

now a well known fact. I still think that this is just one of the reasons

why all this happened (but not the only one, just one of many) with my

thyroid, plus I started having these really long periods beginning within 6

months or so after my tubil, when I was just 28-29 yrs old. Not knowing

what was happening, and not knowing that I was already developing thyroid

disease, I took my doc's advice and had a hyst when I was just 35 or so, but

only one ovary. The female oncologist I was seeing at the time ran tests on

me and determined that neither ovary was working right, way before that,

leading to me making no progesterone, but high in estrogens. The doctor who

actually did the hyst, however, did not want to take both ovaries, so he

left one that already wasn't working right (if that was me NOW, I'd have

told him to get all he could then, because both ovaries had been forming

cysts, repeatedly). Evidently, MAYbe my adrenal glands were already an

accident waiting to happen, since NO progesterone was being produced at that

much younger age. Before this tubil, I had never had ANY kind of female

problems or otherwise, not even an aspirin or a tylenol, and never one whit

of trouble with a period, cramps, or anything like that, all of my life.

S.

black cohosh

>I think I may be starting perimenopause. I'm having mood swings,

> difficulty sleeping, very heavy and long periods. I didn't really

> expect it so early (I'm in my late 30s), but it seems like the most

> likely explanation since I don't have my typical thyroid symptoms and

> I've had my labwork done recently. I've been reading about ways to

> control symptoms, and am planning to start progesterone cream and

> considering trying black cohosh. Can these affect my thyroid? Any

> suggestions would be appreciated.

>

>

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This is something I forgot to mention to you in my last answer to the

premenopausal and heavy periods question----I had a few fibroid tumors that

couldn't be shrunk by anything. It is now known that these things can be a

product of estrogen dominance, when no progesterone is being produced. All

I was tried on was medroxyprogesterone (not the good stuff), and it never

worked, but no wonder, it wasn't the natural stuff either, plus I had an

undiagnosed thyroid problem and probably the Hashi's antibodies then,

unbeknownest to me. However, I WAS tested for these female hormones (not

for thyroid) and had ultrasounds and such done to determine these things

first. If either me or this oncologist had only known about these natural

hormones, it would have been a whole different ball game, from then on.

Re: black cohosh

>I could have one that can't be detected on physical exam. My gyn

> provider suggested I just try progesterone cream before doing a

> vaginal ultrasound. Would a fibroid explain all the symptoms? Are

> there effective treatments for fibroids? I would expect the heavy

> bleeding with a fibroid, but not the insomnia and mood swings.

>

> thanks,

>

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Hi ,

It can be disconcerting when our bodies start to do something that we don't think it's time for! I was in perimenopause at age 38. Some fun, eh? ;-\

In addition to the potential goitrogenic effect that Jan mentioned, please research black cohosh (and any other supplement) carefully.

A close friend, very healthy, started taking black cohosh at the behest of her doctor when she entered perimenopause. The ending of this story is not good. She went into liver failure and did not make it. Yes, they traced it to the black cohosh (one of the mass-marketed formulas that has been on the market for several years). And there was no family history of liver disease in any form. I tell you this not as a scare tactic -- I am one of more prolific users of vitamins and supplements -- but to note that even those things that we view as natural can have consequences. What works for one person may not be suitable for another.

In addition, I also second the vote to have other things checked out. As noted, uterine fibroids can definitely cause heavy bleeding. I've had them, too, and am a silent moderator of an Endometrial Ablation discussion group, so consider me a resource if anything points to them and you are searching for answers, as the archives on the EA group are awesome.

Several things have helped me with the sleep issues that go along with perimenopause -- a good liver support formula, calcium/magnesium and vitamin D in the D3 formulation. Cal/mag can also help with the mood swings. Acupuncture has been extremely helpful with night sweats, and also sleeping through the night.

Jan's feedback on bioidentical hormones is also another thing that I have taken to heart.

HTH,Karla

I think I may be starting perimenopause. I'm having mood swings, difficulty sleeping, very heavy and long periods. I didn't really expect it so early (I'm in my late 30s), but it seems like the most likely explanation since I don't have my typical thyroid symptoms and I've had my labwork done recently. I've been reading about ways to control symptoms, and am planning to start progesterone cream and considering trying black cohosh. Can these affect my thyroid? Any suggestions would be appreciated.

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I am 37 and wonder if what I have experienced in the last 2 weeks was a hot flash. Twice - while in our 75 degree house doing routine things - I have gotten outrageously hot and had sweat just rolling down my back. Could it be a hot flash? I am hypothyroid and starting to chart my temps for adrenal fatigue. AmyKarla wrote: Hi , It can be disconcerting

when our bodies start to do something that we don't think it's time for! I was in perimenopause at age 38. Some fun, eh? ;-\ In addition to the potential goitrogenic effect that Jan mentioned, please research black cohosh (and any other supplement) carefully. A close friend, very healthy, started taking black cohosh at the behest of her doctor when she entered perimenopause. The ending of this story is not good. She went into liver failure and did not make it. Yes, they traced it to the black cohosh (one of the mass-marketed formulas that has been on the market for several years). And there was no family history of liver disease in any form. I tell you this not as a scare tactic -- I am one of more prolific users of vitamins and supplements -- but to note that even those things that we view as natural can have consequences. What works for one person may not be suitable for

another. In addition, I also second the vote to have other things checked out. As noted, uterine fibroids can definitely cause heavy bleeding. I've had them, too, and am a silent moderator of an Endometrial Ablation discussion group, so consider me a resource if anything points to them and you are searching for answers, as the archives on the EA group are awesome. Several things have helped me with the sleep issues that go along with perimenopause -- a good liver support formula, calcium/magnesium and vitamin D in the D3 formulation. Cal/mag can also help with the mood swings. Acupuncture has been extremely helpful with night sweats, and also sleeping through the night. Jan's feedback on bioidentical hormones is also another thing that I have taken to heart. HTH,Karla I think I may be starting perimenopause. I'm having mood swings, difficulty sleeping, very heavy and long periods. I didn't really expect it so early (I'm in my late 30s), but it seems like the most likely explanation since I don't have my typical thyroid symptoms and I've had my labwork done recently. I've been reading about ways to control symptoms, and am planning to start progesterone cream and considering trying black cohosh. Can these affect my thyroid? Any suggestions would be appreciated.

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Is it possible that these hot flashes occurred 2-4 hours after taking thyroid meds? Amy Nguyen wrote: I am 37 and wonder if what I have experienced in the last 2 weeks was a hot flash. Twice - while in our 75 degree house doing routine things - I have gotten outrageously hot and had sweat just rolling down my back. Could it be a hot flash? I am hypothyroid and starting to chart my temps for adrenal fatigue. AmyKarla wrote: Hi , It can be disconcerting when our bodies start to do something that we don't think it's time for! I was in perimenopause at age 38. Some fun, eh? ;-\ In addition to the potential goitrogenic effect that Jan mentioned, please research black cohosh (and any other supplement) carefully. A close friend, very healthy, started taking black cohosh at the behest of her doctor when she entered perimenopause. The ending of this story is not good. She went into liver failure and did not make it. Yes, they traced it to the black cohosh (one of the mass-marketed formulas that has been on the market for several years). And there was no family history of liver disease in any form. I tell you this not as a scare tactic -- I am one of more prolific users

of vitamins and supplements -- but to note that even those things that we view as natural can have consequences. What works for one person may not be suitable for another. In addition, I also second the vote to have other things checked out. As noted, uterine fibroids can definitely cause heavy bleeding. I've had them, too, and am a silent moderator of an Endometrial Ablation discussion group, so consider me a resource if anything points to them and you are searching for answers, as the archives on the EA group are awesome. Several things have helped me with the sleep issues that go along with perimenopause -- a good liver support formula, calcium/magnesium and vitamin D in the D3 formulation. Cal/mag can also help with the mood swings. Acupuncture has been extremely helpful with night sweats, and also sleeping through the night. Jan's

feedback on bioidentical hormones is also another thing that I have taken to heart. HTH,Karla I think I may be starting perimenopause. I'm having mood swings, difficulty sleeping, very heavy and long periods. I didn't really expect it so early (I'm in my late 30s), but it seems like the most likely explanation since I don't have my typical thyroid symptoms and I've had my labwork done recently. I've been reading about ways to control symptoms, and am planning to start progesterone cream and considering trying black cohosh. Can these affect my thyroid? Any suggestions would be appreciated.

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I can't really say - don't remember if it was morning or evening. I take my thyroid meds in the morning. Could the Levothroid cause the "hot flash"?Jan wrote: Is it possible that these hot flashes occurred 2-4 hours after taking thyroid meds? Amy Nguyen <a_b_n2001> wrote: I am 37 and wonder

if what I have experienced in the last 2 weeks was a hot flash. Twice - while in our 75 degree house doing routine things - I have gotten outrageously hot and had sweat just rolling down my back. Could it be a hot flash? I am hypothyroid and starting to chart my temps for adrenal fatigue. AmyKarla <seattlethyroid> wrote: Hi , It can be disconcerting when our bodies start to do something that we don't think it's time for! I was in perimenopause at age 38. Some fun, eh? ;-\ In addition to the potential goitrogenic effect

that Jan mentioned, please research black cohosh (and any other supplement) carefully. A close friend, very healthy, started taking black cohosh at the behest of her doctor when she entered perimenopause. The ending of this story is not good. She went into liver failure and did not make it. Yes, they traced it to the black cohosh (one of the mass-marketed formulas that has been on the market for several years). And there was no family history of liver disease in any form. I tell you this not as a scare tactic -- I am one of more prolific users of vitamins and supplements -- but to note that even those things that we view as natural can have consequences. What works for one person may not be suitable for another. In addition, I also second the vote to have other things checked out. As noted, uterine fibroids can definitely cause heavy bleeding. I've had them, too, and am a silent moderator

of an Endometrial Ablation discussion group, so consider me a resource if anything points to them and you are searching for answers, as the archives on the EA group are awesome. Several things have helped me with the sleep issues that go along with perimenopause -- a good liver support formula, calcium/magnesium and vitamin D in the D3 formulation. Cal/mag can also help with the mood swings. Acupuncture has been extremely helpful with night sweats, and also sleeping through the night. Jan's feedback on bioidentical hormones is also another thing that I have taken to heart. HTH,Karla I think I may be starting perimenopause. I'm having mood swings, difficulty sleeping, very heavy and long periods. I

didn't really expect it so early (I'm in my late 30s), but it seems like the most likely explanation since I don't have my typical thyroid symptoms and I've had my labwork done recently. I've been reading about ways to control symptoms, and am planning to start progesterone cream and considering trying black cohosh. Can these affect my thyroid? Any suggestions would be appreciated. How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates.

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Maybe. Armour or Cytomel is more likely to do that. Amy Nguyen wrote: I can't really say - don't remember if it was morning or evening. I take my thyroid meds in the morning. Could the Levothroid cause the "hot flash"?Jan wrote: Is it possible that these hot flashes occurred 2-4 hours after taking thyroid meds? Amy

Nguyen <a_b_n2001> wrote: I am 37 and wonder if what I have experienced in the last 2 weeks was a hot flash. Twice - while in our 75 degree house doing routine things - I have gotten outrageously hot and had sweat just rolling down my back. Could it be a hot flash? I am hypothyroid and starting to chart my temps for adrenal fatigue. AmyKarla <seattlethyroid> wrote: Hi

, It can be disconcerting when our bodies start to do something that we don't think it's time for! I was in perimenopause at age 38. Some fun, eh? ;-\ In addition to the potential goitrogenic effect that Jan mentioned, please research black cohosh (and any other supplement) carefully. A close friend, very healthy, started taking black cohosh at the behest of her doctor when she entered perimenopause. The ending of this story is not good. She went into liver failure and did not make it. Yes, they traced it to the black cohosh (one of the mass-marketed formulas that has been on the market for several years). And there was no family history of liver disease in any form. I tell you this not as a scare tactic -- I am one of more prolific users of vitamins and supplements -- but to note that even those

things that we view as natural can have consequences. What works for one person may not be suitable for another. In addition, I also second the vote to have other things checked out. As noted, uterine fibroids can definitely cause heavy bleeding. I've had them, too, and am a silent moderator of an Endometrial Ablation discussion group, so consider me a resource if anything points to them and you are searching for answers, as the archives on the EA group are awesome. Several things have helped me with the sleep issues that go along with perimenopause -- a good liver support formula, calcium/magnesium and vitamin D in the D3 formulation. Cal/mag can also help with the mood swings. Acupuncture has been extremely helpful with night sweats, and also sleeping through the night. Jan's feedback on bioidentical hormones

is also another thing that I have taken to heart. HTH,Karla I think I may be starting perimenopause. I'm having mood swings, difficulty sleeping, very heavy and long periods. I didn't really expect it so early (I'm in my late 30s), but it seems like the most likely explanation since I don't have my typical thyroid symptoms and I've had my labwork done recently. I've been reading about ways to control symptoms, and am planning to start progesterone cream and considering trying black cohosh. Can these affect my thyroid? Any suggestions would be appreciated. __________________________________________________Do You

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I only take Levothroid for now. I am making an appt with a Dr who perscribes Armour next week.Jan wrote: Maybe. Armour or Cytomel is more likely to do that. Amy Nguyen <a_b_n2001> wrote: I can't really say - don't remember if it was morning or evening. I take my thyroid meds in the morning. Could the Levothroid cause the "hot flash"?Jan <texasthyroid> wrote: Is it possible that these hot flashes occurred 2-4 hours after taking thyroid meds? Amy Nguyen <a_b_n2001> wrote: I am 37 and wonder if what I have experienced in the last 2 weeks was a hot flash. Twice - while in our 75 degree house doing routine things - I have gotten outrageously hot and had sweat just rolling down my back. Could it be a hot flash? I am hypothyroid and starting to chart my temps for adrenal fatigue. AmyKarla <seattlethyroid> wrote: Hi , It can be disconcerting when our bodies start to do something that we don't think it's time for! I was in perimenopause at age 38. Some fun, eh? ;-\ In addition to the potential goitrogenic effect that Jan mentioned, please research black cohosh (and any other supplement) carefully. A close friend, very healthy, started taking black cohosh at the behest of her doctor when she entered perimenopause. The ending of this story is not good. She went into liver failure and did not make it. Yes, they traced it to the black cohosh (one of the mass-marketed formulas that has been on the market for several years). And there was no family history of liver disease in any form. I tell you this not as a scare tactic -- I am one of more prolific users of vitamins and supplements -- but to note that even those things that we view as natural can have consequences. What works for one person may not be suitable for another. In addition, I also second the vote to have other things checked out. As noted, uterine fibroids can definitely cause heavy bleeding. I've had them, too, and am a silent moderator of an Endometrial Ablation discussion group, so consider me a resource if anything points to them and you are

searching for answers, as the archives on the EA group are awesome. Several things have helped me with the sleep issues that go along with perimenopause -- a good liver support formula, calcium/magnesium and vitamin D in the D3 formulation. Cal/mag can also help with the mood swings. Acupuncture has been extremely helpful with night sweats, and also sleeping through the night. Jan's feedback on bioidentical hormones is also another thing that I have taken to heart. HTH,Karla I think I may be starting perimenopause. I'm having mood swings, difficulty sleeping, very heavy and long periods. I didn't really expect it so early (I'm in my late 30s), but

it seems like the most likely explanation since I don't have my typical thyroid symptoms and I've had my labwork done recently. I've been reading about ways to control symptoms, and am planning to start progesterone cream and considering trying black cohosh. Can these affect my thyroid? Any suggestions would be appreciated. __________________________________________________

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Which doc are you going to see?Amy Nguyen wrote: I only take Levothroid for now. I am making an appt with a Dr who perscribes Armour next week.Jan wrote: Maybe. Armour or Cytomel is more likely to do that. Amy Nguyen <a_b_n2001> wrote: I can't really say - don't remember if it was morning or evening. I take my thyroid meds in the morning. Could the Levothroid cause the "hot flash"?Jan <texasthyroid> wrote: Is it possible that these hot flashes occurred 2-4 hours after taking thyroid meds?

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I tried taking black cohosh. It seemed to help with the

perimenopause symptoms, but after taking it for about 2 weeks I

developed systemic itching. After doing research on the internet

about black cohosh, it appears the itching is a sign it was

affecting my liver. So I stopped taking it. But not everyone reacts

the same way.

From Houston

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> I think I may be starting perimenopause. I'm having mood swings,

> difficulty sleeping, very heavy and long periods. I didn't really

> expect it so early (I'm in my late 30s), but it seems like the most

> likely explanation since I don't have my typical thyroid symptoms

and

> I've had my labwork done recently. I've been reading about ways to

> control symptoms, and am planning to start progesterone cream and

> considering trying black cohosh. Can these affect my thyroid? Any

> suggestions would be appreciated.

>

>

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