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We have heard some good reports and some not so good. Adrenals are his specialty. He is hypoadrenal himself.sle816@... wrote: Yes, they said he is taking new patients again. Isn't he supposed to be pretty good? I sure hope so!!! steph

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I don't remember any specific negatives, except for one person who felt she was left undermedicated. I just never promoted him because I knew that for a long time, he was not taking new patients himself, and I do not know anything about the PA.sle816@... wrote: Just wanted to make sure you saw this, Jan..What were the negatives about Dr. Manzanero. HOw does he compare to ? Thanks Steph

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Dr. Manzanero is recommending chelation therapy because I had my mercury fillings removed several years ago. He believes t his was the onset of my autoimmune thyroiditis. He may be correct. I am not surea bout the chelation as I've read several things about it both pro and con. Any suggestions out there??? Any personal experiences?

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I did chelation therapy under the guidance of Dr Grebennikov in

Dallas. I was very leery of the whole thing, so did lots of research,

including talking on the phone to another patient of Dr G's from this

board who did it (Thanks, Jan!!, again). My issue was aluminum. Part

of my decision making was that I had a metal taste in my mouth for a

long time, sometimes it overcame the taste of food or drink it was so

strong. I am glad I did the chelation because as Dr G was monitoring my

blood, it turned out that I had the highest aluminum level he had ever

seen, and he's in geriatrics, so sees lots of alzheimers patients. He

said I was higher than any geriatric patient or anyone else he had ever

heard of. It was the highest level of aluminum anyone at the chelation

center had ever seen, too. Everyone was worried about me. When it was

coming out, I felt like s**t. I feel a lot better, but I have a long

way to go. I like to think that I got one issue out of the way.

Having said that, from being at the center that did the chelation, this

is what I heard about mercury from patients who were being chelated for

it. Mercury is harder to get out of the body. Mercury takes a

different chelation formula than I had. Mercury makes a person sicker

when their body is poisoned by it. It is wise to then watch very

carefully the types of fish eaten. Crustations (shellfish) should be

avoided, also tuna, and there are others that I don't remember. I

specifically remember one guy who said he was really sick before, and

now is well. Sorry I don't remember the details of his sickness.

Other patients were there for chelation for various problems: high

blood pressure, heart disease/blocked arteries, living in areas

poisoned with radiation, to clear system of harsh drugs. Most were

absolute believers. The staunch believers were generally older folks,

late 70's on up, for whom this saved them from heart attack, open heart

surgery, being on serious meds for high blood pressure, or, they

believed saved them from a second heart attack. There was one guy in

his late 50's who swore it was keeping him alive after a bad heart

attack by keeping the calcification out of his veins and arteries

(different that the food type calcium we ingest).

Dr G recommended chelation to me on the basis of my blood tests for

heavy metals and the fact that I was taking what he thought was quite

a high dose of Armour and still not getting better after trying lots of

things with lots of doctors.

It is not an easy fix. I went to the chelation place (not his office,

her referred me somewhere else) every week for over a year to get this

under control. It is an iv drip solution that takes 3 hours to

complete. Every week. It was a real burden to do it, but I got

through it.

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> Dr. Manzanero is recommending chelation therapy because I had my

mercury

> fillings removed several years ago. He believes t his was the onset

of my

> autoimmune thyroiditis. He may be correct. I am not surea bout the

chelation as

> I've read several things about it both pro and con. Any suggestions

out

> there??? Any personal experiences?

> Thanks

> steph

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I have no personal experience, but I know folks who have had it done. For heavy metal exposure, chelation therapy can be a good thing. I think some docs push it for other purposes that are not justified. Just make sure he tests all of your levels before and after. It would also be a good idea to be pretty well optimized on your thyroid meds before you do it. Chelation can be pretty hard on some folks.sle816@... wrote: Dr. Manzanero is recommending chelation therapy because I had my mercury fillings removed several years

ago. He believes t his was the onset of my autoimmune thyroiditis. He may be correct. I am not surea bout the chelation as I've read several things about it both pro and con. Any suggestions out there??? Any personal experiences? Thanks steph

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I just wanted to comment on this, since I just had my annual checkup

with Dr. M and I was worried he wouldn't want to increase my dose.

Over the past year, he has let me increase my dose once (about six

months ago) when my TSH was suppressed and my free T3 was high out of

range because I was still having hypo symptoms. He did ask me to check

in with him by phone after about six weeks so he could get feedback

about how I was feeling. At my appointment last week, he said my labs

looked fine, but when I told him that I was having a lot of symptoms,

he was fine with increasing my dose. He does like to check adrenal

function if the labs look good but you are still having symptoms, but

my adrenal tests looked pretty good.

I like Dr. M, and I trust him. He knows his stuff, and he is genuinely

interested in helping his patients feel better.

Just wanted to make sure you saw this,

Jan..What were the negatives about Dr. Manzanero. HOw does he compare

to ?

> Thanks

> Steph

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Ok, I'm wondering what you are already taking, because Cortef IS Hydrocortisone, just a brand name of it, so I don't understand this. I think it was you who said this before, but I didn't respond to this, mainly because I was confused as to what you are taking. Cortef is hydrocortisone, brandname. Why did the doc not tell you this, I'm wondering?

Re: DR. MANZANERO

I saw Dr. Manzanero Friday. he was fine with mynumbers, except he says I am prediabetic. that' s scary!

He says we are going to do a mercury test to see if I am toxic in mercury, lead or any other heavy metals..if so, t hen I have decided to do the chelation.He felt my ferritin was fine at 73, but said to add iron for awhile if I wanted to. He is laid back and seems to know what he is doing, but Im not totally confident yet.

I am still feeling anxious and have cut my armour down to 2.5 gr. he says to wait and see for a few weeks how i feel... he did mention cortef again in place of the hydrocortisone and

I mentioned to him about the cortef being grown on a fungus and he said he had not heard that, but that we can't be too sure what the other stuff is grown on either. so , that's that. I will do this heavy metal test next. I'll keep you posted.

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I got that info from my doc's wife who had a terrible reaction to Cortef.sle816@... wrote: I thinkit was Jan who told me that Cortef is grown on a fungus but not sure..was it you, Jan? steph

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