Re: Off Topic Our Sweet, Sweet Dog Bear

[Guest guest]

Sue--

On another day, when this crisis is over, I would call

the ASPCA, and whomever is the Texas governing body

for vets. Also, were you cleared by anyone to give

the dogs supplements? I know some supplements convert

well for dogs, and others do not. The same goes for

cats-- my mom almost killed our cat with baby aspirin

once.

Regarding food, 'cause you know I love food and I love

dogs, so it's going to come up.... I have had two

excellent vets tell me that the optimum diet for dogs

is a mixture of chicken and plain white rice, half and

half.

When my Lucy (chihuahua terrier mix) had a stomach bug

last year (lost three of her nine pounds in 24 hours),

the doctor told me to put her on a strict chicken rice

diet for two weeks, and give her 5 large droppersful

of Pedialyte per day, plus huge antibiotics. She

almost had to be hospitalized for dehydration.

I just made a huge batch of chicken and rice, and put

it into supper-sized baggies and froze them. I was

very sick at the time, but this was relatively easy to

do.

I feel for you and for Bear. I hope they figure out

what's wrong with your lovely dog.

Best--

Courtenay

[Guest guest]

We have a horse that does great on Adequan as well.

Kim

From: Texas_Thyroid_Groups [mailto:Texas_Thyroid_Groups ] On Behalf Of CauleySent: Friday, July 21, 2006 8:26 PMTo: Texas_Thyroid_Groups Subject: Re: Off Topic Our Sweet, Sweet Dog Bear

Sue, I have a 10 year old lab with arthritis. She took Rimadyl for 2 years or so and did ok but not great. Recently, we started a new treatment regime that has been great for her. The vet has had lots of success with it. She gets a monthly injection of Adequan (first you start out getting the injection every week, then every 2 weeks, then maintenance is monthly) and takes Tramadol daily. You might want to look into this. During cold spells, I give her a Rimadyl if she is limping and needs some extra ooomph.

Good luck.

Off Topic Our Sweet, Sweet Dog Bear

I know this is off topic but I need to vent. We made an appt for ourdog, Bear since he isn't eating much and was limping. He's been diagnosed with hip dysplasia but is doing great on glucosamine, chrondroitin, msm and other joint healthy supplements. He is a small mixed breed dog and is 12 yrs old. He lived on the block behind us to stupid careless people who had the mother dog and pups all outside in the cold. We reported them to the humane society but they said they were being fed and had a shed to go into. SHEESH.... He was born during an ice storm. We used to look over the fence and call them over to toss food over to them. Bear always figured out how to get under the fences to get to our house. Later on, we figured how he did it....our neighbor next to us dug a small hole for him to crawl thru and then she let him thru the opening of our fences so he could come to the back door. We loved our neighbor and her dog loved our yard so we made a doggy door thru the bottom of the fence boards. lolOk, back to Bear and this idiot vet. This pain can flare up when he runs along the back fence and we thought this was the problem. We bought him some liquid glucosamine but it made him sick so we called the vet and this is where the fun begins.......He's not eating his dog food so I am making him chicken soups and giving him meats.His appt was for 5:30 PM on Thursday and 10 minutes before his visit, theycall the house and say they refuse to see him because back in 2001,we brought him in and refused treatment for his hip.....They are SOwrong!! We brought him in but their stupid x ray machine was notworking and we went to another vet for them to xray it. That's whenwe found out he has hip dysplaysia. They are refusing to see himbecause we went elsewhere for his care????? I also asked them why ittook them 8 hrs to let us know???? Sheesh!I sat up with him until 3:00 AM yesterday morning and stressed dosed toabout 60 mgs of hydrocortisone during the course of the day. I guessI will not sleep again tonight since I took so much hydrocortisone. Ithink I feared that they would want to put him to sleep. I went to bed and woke up ok so I will take 5 mgs and see how I am later on when we go to this other vet. We now have an appt tomorrow afternoon with the vet that diagnosedhim in the first place. Do you ever get so mad but don't know what todo.....if they say our dog needed treatment sooner and this stupid drcost him any ills, I think I'll sue him. What a jacka$$...... I am somad at them. And they are concerned for pets? I don't think so.Does anyone know who I can report them to for refusing treatment toour pet? I'm in the Austin, Tx area. grrrrrrSue

[Guest guest]

Dear --

I seem to remember hearing from the vet that the

chicken/rice diet is also okay for cats, but I

wouldn't swear by it. However, here's what I did: I

bought boneless/skinless thighs, boiled them in water,

made a huge batch of rice, then chopped up the

chicken, and mixed it together. You could probably

clear it with your vet's office with a simple phone

call.

It wasn't a five star meal, but Lucy certainly thought

it was.

Most vets recommend Science diet or Iams, if you

aren't cooking for your pets. Hill Country Farms

(H-E- actually put out some tainted cat food a

couple of years ago, according to an animal advocate I

know, and this tainted canned food apparently caused a

number of pet deaths.

I wish I had the money to cook for my dogs like that

all the time. My big dog is fat at the moment, due to

lack of exercise, and I would like more energy to help

her work it off. I don't want her to die young from

canine obesity. Our dogs are the center of my

husband's and my life.

Courtenay.

>

> Courtenay, you wouldn't by chance know about cats

> and cat food,

> would you? I've been too scared to check the labels

> on the stuff

> our little cat is getting (probably HFCS and soy!)

> and your idea is

> great. She'd probably feel a lot better eating

> something with less

> c-r-a-p in it, just like we all do.

>

> Did you just like, boil whole chickens and give your

> dog all but the

> bones?

>

> Thank you~

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Your lab and I have something in common. I take tramadol, too. I am

wondering if he gets a thirsty as I do when I take it?

Something to watch for, I guess.

Funny, I was prescribed the same thing as a dog!

Lynn

maintenance is monthly) and takes Tramadol daily. You might want to

look into this. During cold spells, I give her a Rimadyl if she is

limping and needs some extra ooomph.

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Kate, good info!

>

> Do not give them the cooked bones, they splinter. Give them raw

bones. A

> raw diet is really the best for cats and dogs. There is junk is

so much of

> the food. With cats if you make your own you need to add Taurine

to

> it. Kitty Bloom is a great product to add to raw or cooked diet.

There

> are some all natural kibbles that are really good. Canidae/

Felidae,

> Natural Balance and Nature's Variety are three that I highly

> recommend. Chicken Meal is a good thing, chicken meat you get

less

> protein. Canidae has a good explanation on their website.

Science Diet is

> JUNK! The majority of vets are tied in with them. Kinda like big

pharma

> and the doctors. We have created the diabetic cats and dogs.

They are

> carnivores!!!!! Ok, I could go on, but I need to get dinner going

and ice

> my feet!

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you, Courtenay:

I guess I'll do a little digging around on the subject matter and see

what I can come up with.

>

> Dear --

>

> I seem to remember hearing from the vet that the

> chicken/rice diet is also okay for cats, but I

> wouldn't swear by it.

[Guest guest]

I'll look into that raw food diet. I know Bear would love it.

Sue

> >

> > Do not give them the cooked bones, they splinter. Give them raw

> bones. A

> > raw diet is really the best for cats and dogs. There is junk is

> so much of

> > the food.

[Guest guest]

If you search on the Internet, they refer to it as the BARF diet.

I have several friends that do it with their cats. I've done it but with

the number I have it's too messy.

Kate

At 09:12 PM 7/24/2006, you wrote:

>I'll look into that raw food diet. I know Bear would love it.

>

>Sue