: How do you capture a thought?

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Thankyou for your wonderfully detailed post. You stimulated quite a bit of

Work in me.

Firstly with your two questions:

[FB] 'Now on to your real question which seems to be how do you unearth a

thought

that you can't seem to distinguish. One way is to look for what you're

wanting, then ask yourself, if you had that then what would be present for

you. Keep doing that until you get to the fundamental thing which would be

present. You may, or may not, get to the thought, but you will likely get to

the desire/fear that the thought was intended to deal with, which is usually

just as good. In fact when we get to that, the sponsoring thought usually

reveals itself.'

Q: 'What am I wanting?'

A: I'm wanting the light inside.

Q: 'If I had it always what would be present for me?'

A: Peace.

I did that bit and then I went on to look for the underlying beliefs. You

were right in suggesting that I had 'attached to a concept and called it real.'

[FB] 'What is real and true is what can be experienced in this moment. What

we do is take that experience and form concepts then call those concepts true.

There is a light inside you. Is that true? That which you are calling a light

inside you can go out. Is that true?'

I started having fun at this point, which was wonderful, so I decided to take

the non-stressful thought and do The Work on that. I know that's not

necessary but I thought I'd do it anyway.

'There is a light inside me'

1. Is it true? Yes.

2. Can you absolutely know that it's true? Yes. The light is a metaphor for

peace and serenity.

3.How do you react when you think that thought? Wonderful. Loving. Free. In

the now. Total. Here. Complete.

4. Who would you be without the thought? Black. Dreadful. Desolate. Lost.

TA. 'There is a dark inside me.' Oh I'm surprised - that feels fine.

'There is no light inside me.' That's true. That's funny - as April would

say LOL - it's a concept isn't it? There is, what is, inside me only I've given

it a name. How interesting.

Then I took your next question:

'That which I am calling a light inside me can go out.'

1. Is that true? Yes, with a sudden flick of a switch.

2. Is it absolutely true? No, it's always on a low burner.

3. How do you react when you think that thought? Victimised. At the whim of

my own thinking. Powerless. Lost and alone. Misunderstood and persecuted by

life. Filled with the 'Poor me's'.

I got really bored with myself here so I skipped to No 4. Who would you be

without the thought? It would be immaterial whether the light was on or off

because I would know it was only a concept.

TA. 'That which I am calling a light inside me cannot go out.' Absolutely.

It's all been a storm in a teacup. If I have a light inside me then it's my

light and it's up to me and my thinking whether I turn it off or on. So there

you have it!

Oh my goodness I'm going to stop there - you've said and helped so much

but I'm exhausted and I'm sick of the bleedin' light inside me!

I must just say you made me laugh when you translated my pathetic bleatings:

[FB] Translation. I want to be someone who loves reality as it is BUT It

would just be so much easier if it were something other that what it is.

That is so true! It reminds me what says ' Is it I love God' [What is]

or is it 'I love God sometimes when he's giving me the reality I want?' That's

me alright - but with your help and mine I'm improving - I think.

Thank you again - there's lots more in your post which is very helpful.

Lots to do - isn't it exciting?

Love,

Viv.

[FB] Is it really true? You seem to be thinking just fine to me. I see

coherent sentences with verbs and punctuation. And, yes, you seem to have

the thought that something in you has gone out. I would suggest that

nothing's out. It just doesn't look the way you say it should.

' " What is " has gone out' - Mmm

'God has gone out.' - That feels truer!

[FB] Is that really truer? You think that God is like a match that burned

for a little while and then went out? How about my belief in God has gone

out.

seems to use the word 'God' i.e. 'What is' a great deal in 'Losing the

Moon' but she mentions God rarely in 'Loving What Is'. Why is that I wonder?

[FB] My thinking is that references to God has been edited out in some cases

so as not to offend people who are turned off by such talk, and who could

blame them with all of the aberrated concepts about God out there; probably

mine included.

I am still no nearer to capturing the thought but I do realize I have a

gigantic spiritual yearning - today anyway.

Do any of you have any experiences of losing the thought and simply getting

the feeling? Or can you help in any techniques for trapping the elusive

thinking before it flies away, leaving confusion behind?

Thankyou in advance,

[FB] One access might to be with the feeling and then pretend that there is

a little child inside of you and let her speak. Another is to relax and

trust that everything is whole, perfect and complete right here, right now.

You may find that your dis-ease was caused by your stand that your light had

gone out (God's light had gone out) rather than what was present.

Let us know how this develops, okay?