Re: Dr. Lynn Gibbs - Katy, TX

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Chelle,

That sounds great. He's doing the right tests...now let's see what he does with the information.

I think he is misinformed about the availability of Armour. Your regular pharmacy should have it or be able to order it for you if they don't.

Carol

>> I saw Dr. Lynn Gibbs (male doctor) this afternoon. So far so good. He> Rx'd me 2 grains Armour with 11 refills [] after I told him that> according to my parents I did very well on it as a child, and that I> haven't done that great with synthetics during my childhood and> adulthood. Now I just have to find a pharmacy that will dispense Armour> for me. Dr. Gibbs said it's "dirt cheap" but he also said that I'll> more likely find it at someplace like The Medicine Shoppe than at bigger> or chain stores like Wal-Mart or Walgreens. Is that true, or is he just> misinformed?> > He also ordered a few tests today including Free T3, Free T4, TSH, Total> T4, Ferritin, TIBC (Total Iron Body Capacity -- something my sister> who's a P.A. recommended I have done), and HDL/LDL cholesterol. He> wants to see me in 6 weeks, at which time I'll have the same thyroid> tests done. The lab tests cost about $500 but the girl who took my> blood said that they would work with me to either make payment> arrangements or if my household makes less than a certain amount that> they would write off part or all of the cost. Heh -- with my luck my> husband probably makes just over the limit. But as long as the lab is> willing to work with me on payment arrangements, I can maybe get the lab> tests done about every 3-4 months (not 6 weeks like he wants me to -- I> need to pay off one set of lab tests before I get the next set). At> least the office visit was only $54. That helped a little. []> > Anyway, he seems like a very good doctor. He listened to me, and he> didn't dismiss my symptoms as unreal, unrelated to my thyroid, or> childish. When I told him that after my morning exercise routine I'm> completely wiped out for most of the day, he seemed to understand that> as being related to thyroid (or low iron, whichever).> > So that's my first report on Dr. Gibbs. []> > ~Chelle>

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You can order all these tests yourself and much much more through www.healthcheckusa.com. It is all in one package for $125. That includes the shipping of the papers that you have to take with you. This testing includes Free T3, Free T4, TSH, electrolytes, red and white blood cell counts, serum iron, ferritin, all cholesterols with risk comparison, kidney and liver functions, and myrriads more. They are actually located in San , I believe, the main office. The reason it's costing you so much is because of the middle man markups (as I call them), just like in any other business, retail. Healthcheck is top-of-the-line. Go in on the site and look around and see what you think. When you order a test, it will give you your closest LabOne draw site. Mine is my local hospital, as is the case with many locations. Why spend all that money on the testing, when you could spend over $300 less and get much more. This is vampirism, as far as I'm concerned. I once went to an endo, locally. All he ran was the old Total T4, with a T3Uptake, plus the red and white cell blood counts and electrolytes, not even the kidney and liver functions and cholesterols and such. $475. It makes me sick to see how these prices are marked up, and I won't budge on this one. Someone's making a very good net profit from that, but it's not us. If a doctor won't accept these tests, there's got to be another underlying reason, but it's certainly not the quality of testing, labs, or service from healthcheck.

Dr. Lynn Gibbs - Katy, TX

I saw Dr. Lynn Gibbs (male doctor) this afternoon. So far so good. He Rx'd me 2 grains Armour with 11 refills after I told him that according to my parents I did very well on it as a child, and that I haven't done that great with synthetics during my childhood and adulthood. Now I just have to find a pharmacy that will dispense Armour for me. Dr. Gibbs said it's "dirt cheap" but he also said that I'll more likely find it at someplace like The Medicine Shoppe than at bigger or chain stores like Wal-Mart or Walgreens. Is that true, or is he just misinformed?He also ordered a few tests today including Free T3, Free T4, TSH, Total T4, Ferritin, TIBC (Total Iron Body Capacity -- something my sister who's a P.A. recommended I have done), and HDL/LDL cholesterol. He wants to see me ! in 6 weeks, at which time I'll have the same thyroid tests done. The lab tests cost about $500 but the girl who took my blood said that they would work with me to either make payment arrangements or if my household makes less than a certain amount that they would write off part or all of the cost. Heh -- with my luck my husband probably makes just over the limit. But as long as the lab is willing to work with me on payment arrangements, I can maybe get the lab tests done about every 3-4 months (not 6 weeks like he wants me to -- I need to pay off one set of lab tests before I get the next set). At least the office visit was only $54. That helped a little. Anyway, he seems like a very good doctor. He listened to me, and he didn't dismiss my symptoms as unreal, unrelated to my thyroid, or chi! ldish. When I told him that after my morning exercise routine I' m completely wiped out for most of the day, he seemed to understand that as being related to thyroid (or low iron, whichever).So that's my first report on Dr. Gibbs. ~Chelle

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Hi Judy,Dr. Gibbs isn't on Jan's list...at least not yet. He was recommended to me by one of our members, McSwain (aarealskei2002). He did Rx Armour for me today (which I greatly appreciate), but we'll see if he consistently does (especially after seeing my lab results) before I recommend him to Jan. I'm not a Costco member (at least not anymore, because I didn't know they had Costco in Texas), but I am a Sam's Club member. Does anyone know if they have Armour at Sam's Club? I suppose I could just call and ask, what a novel idea! I'm going to try Walgreens and Wal-Mart first -- I'm in the system at both of those stores and they're convenient for me.~Chelle>> Hi Chelle,> > It looks like we're all really getting somewhere with the new doctors. Is Dr. Gibbs from Jan's list? Can you tell me what dosage you were on with the synthetic? I'm on .1mg or 100mcg now and I'm not sure how that would convert to grains. I'm not sure if you're a member, but I checked earlier for myself and Costco has Armour Thyroid. I get all my scripts at Costco since they are so much cheaper and I can usually get them without using my insurance... Judy> > Dr. Lynn Gibbs - Katy, TX> > > > I saw Dr. Lynn Gibbs (male doctor) this afternoon. So far so good. He Rx'd me 2 grains Armour with 11 refills after I told him that according to my parents I did very well on it as a child, and that I haven't done that great with synthetics during my childhood and adulthood. Now I just have to find a pharmacy that will dispense Armour for me. Dr. Gibbs said it's "dirt cheap" but he also said that I'll more likely find it at someplace like The Medicine Shoppe than at bigger or chain stores like Wal-Mart or Walgreens. Is that true, or is he just misinformed?> > He also ordered a few tests today including Free T3, Free T4, TSH, Total T4, Ferritin, TIBC (Total Iron Body Capacity -- something my sister who's a P.A. recommended I have done), and HDL/LDL cholesterol. He wants to see me in 6 weeks, at which time I'll have the same thyroid tests done. The lab tests cost about $500 but the girl who took my blood said that they would work with me to either make payment arrangements or if my household makes less than a certain amount that they would write off part or all of the cost. Heh -- with my luck my husband probably makes just over the limit. But as long as the lab is willing to work with me on payment arrangements, I can maybe get the lab tests done about every 3-4 months (not 6 weeks like he wants me to -- I need to pay off one set of lab tests before I get the next set). At least the office visit was only $54. That helped a little. > > Anyway, he seems like a very good doctor. He listened to me, and he didn't dismiss my symptoms as unreal, unrelated to my thyroid, or childish. When I told him that after my morning exercise routine I'm completely wiped out for most of the day, he seemed to understand that as being related to thyroid (or low iron, whichever).> > So that's my first report on Dr. Gibbs. > > ~Chelle> > > #ygrp-mlmsg { FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-FAMILY: arial,helvetica,clean,sans-serif}#ygrp-mlmsg TABLE { }#ygrp-mlmsg SELECT { FONT: 99% arial,helvetica,clean,sans-serif}INPUT { FONT: 99% arial,helvetica,clean,sans-serif}TEXTAREA { FONT: 99% arial,helvetica,clean,sans-serif}#ygrp-mlmsg PRE { FONT: 100% monospace}CODE { FONT: 100% monospace}#ygrp-mlmsg { LINE-HEIGHT: 1.22em}#ygrp-text { FONT-FAMILY: Georgia}#ygrp-text P { MARGIN: 0px 0px 1em}#ygrp-tpmsgs { CLEAR: both; FONT-FAMILY: Arial}#ygrp-vitnav { FONT-SIZE: 77%; MARGIN: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 10px; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana}#ygrp-vitnav A { PADDING-RIGHT: 1px; PADDING-LEFT: 1px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px}#ygrp-actbar { CLEAR: both; MARGIN: 25px 0px; COLOR: #666; WHITE-SPACE: nowrap; TEXT-ALIGN: right}#ygrp-actbar .left { FLOAT: left; WHITE-SPACE: nowrap}..bld { FONT-WEIGHT: bold}#ygrp-grft { PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 77%; PADDING-BOTTOM: 15px; PADDING-TOP: 15px; FONT-FAMILY:> Verdana}#ygrp-ft { PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #666 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 77%; PADDING-BOTTOM: 5px; PADDING-TOP: 5px; FONT-FAMILY: verdana}#ygrp-mlmsg #logo { PADDING-BOTTOM: 10px}#ygrp-vital { PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 8px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 20px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 8px; PADDING-TOP: 2px; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #e0ecee}#ygrp-vital #vithd { FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 77%; TEXT-TRANSFORM: uppercase; COLOR: #333; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana}#ygrp-vital UL { PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN: 2px 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px}#ygrp-vital UL LI { CLEAR: both; BORDER-RIGHT: #e0ecee 1px solid; BORDER-TOP: #e0ecee 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #e0ecee 1px solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #e0ecee 1px solid; LIST-STYLE-TYPE: none}#ygrp-vital UL LI .ct { PADDING-RIGHT: 0.5em; FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FLOAT: right; WIDTH: 2em; COLOR: #ff7900; TEXT-ALIGN: right}#ygrp-vital UL LI .cat { FONT-WEIGHT: bold}#ygrp-vital A { TEXT-DECORATION: none}#ygrp-vital A:hover {> TEXT-DECORATION: underline}#ygrp-sponsor #hd { FONT-SIZE: 77%; COLOR: #999}#ygrp-sponsor #ov { PADDING-RIGHT: 13px; PADDING-LEFT: 13px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 20px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 6px; PADDING-TOP: 6px; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #e0ecee}#ygrp-sponsor #ov UL { PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 8px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px}#ygrp-sponsor #ov LI { PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 77%; PADDING-BOTTOM: 6px; PADDING-TOP: 6px; LIST-STYLE-TYPE: square}#ygrp-sponsor #ov LI A { FONT-SIZE: 130%; TEXT-DECORATION: none}#ygrp-sponsor #nc { PADDING-RIGHT: 8px; PADDING-LEFT: 8px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 20px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #eee}#ygrp-sponsor .ad { PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 8px; PADDING-TOP: 8px}#ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1 { FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 100%; COLOR: #628c2a; LINE-HEIGHT: 122%; FONT-FAMILY: Arial}#ygrp-sponsor .ad A { TEXT-DECORATION: none}#ygrp-sponsor .ad A:hover { TEXT-DECORATION:> underline}#ygrp-sponsor .ad P { MARGIN: 0px}o { FONT-SIZE: 0px}..MsoNormal { MARGIN: 0px}#ygrp-text TT { FONT-SIZE: 120%}BLOCKQUOTE { MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 4px}..replbq { }> > ---------------------------------> Groups are talking. 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Sorry, I forgot to answer one of your questions. I was on 175 mcg of generic synthetic levothyroxine (purchased from Wal-Mart and I'm on the last refill). The 2 grains Dr. Gibbs prescribed is I believe a higher dose, unless I'm mistaken.>> Hi Chelle,> > It looks like we're all really getting somewhere with the new doctors. Is Dr. Gibbs from Jan's list? Can you tell me what dosage you were on with the synthetic? I'm on .1mg or 100mcg now and I'm not sure how that would convert to grains. I'm not sure if you're a member, but I checked earlier for myself and Costco has Armour Thyroid. I get all my scripts at Costco since they are so much cheaper and I can usually get them without using my insurance... Judy

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I would just ask them in gr. That is how it is written

on the prescription. I got my 2 grains at the

Walgreens at LIttle York and Hwy 6.

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> The Walgreens in my area (about 1.5 miles away)

> doesn't have Armour, but

> the Wal-Mart at Hwy 290 @ Spring-Cypress Rd does.

> When they asked me

> what strength I needed I told them 0.2 mg because

> that was what Dr.

> Gibbs wrote on the Rx. What would be the equivalent

> in grains?

> Anybody? [:-/]

>

>

> >

> > Chelle, I have gotten Armour at Walgreens in our

> > area... just be sure that you tell them you can't

> do

> > the generic!!! I made them put that in my file.

> > -Ruth

>

>

>

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120 mg of Armour is thought to be equivalent to between 150 and 200 mcg of T4 only. The apples do not always equal the oranges, and the chart on the ArmourThyroid site contradicts the prescribing info. But the 120 mg of Armour is probably an appropriate starting dose for you. Do get your Free T3 and Free T4 tested in 6-10 weeks. Don't toss all of your levothyroxine just yet. Some of us take a small amount of levothyroxine with our Armour to correct the T4:T3 ratio, based on our labs. wrote: Sorry, I forgot to answer one of your questions. I

was on 175 mcg of generic synthetic levothyroxine (purchased from Wal-Mart and I'm on the last refill). The 2 grains Dr. Gibbs prescribed is I believe a higher dose, unless I'm mistaken.... Judy __________________________________________________

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You will get better prices if he will write for 90 or 100 pills. wrote: I saw Dr. Lynn Gibbs (male doctor) this afternoon. So far so good. He Rx'd me 2 grains Armour with 11 refills after I told him that according to my parents I did very well on it as a child, and that I haven't done that great with synthetics during my childhood and adulthood. Now I just have to find a pharmacy that will dispense Armour for me. Dr. Gibbs said it's "dirt cheap" but he also said that I'll more likely find it at someplace like The Medicine Shoppe than at bigger or chain stores

like Wal-Mart or Walgreens. Is that true, or is he just misinformed?He also ordered a few tests today including Free T3, Free T4, TSH, Total T4, Ferritin, TIBC (Total Iron Body Capacity -- something my sister who's a P.A. recommended I have done), and HDL/LDL cholesterol. He wants to see me in 6 weeks, at which time I'll have the same thyroid tests done. The lab tests cost about $500 but the girl who took my blood said that they would work with me to either make payment arrangements or if my household makes less than a certain amount that they would write off part or all of the cost. Heh -- with my luck my husband probably makes just over the limit. But as long as the lab is willing to work with me on payment arrangements, I can maybe get the lab tests done about every 3-4 months (not 6 weeks like he wants me to -- I need to pay off one set of lab tests before I get the next set). At least the office

visit was only $54. That helped a little. Anyway, he seems like a very good doctor. He listened to me, and he didn't dismiss my symptoms as unreal, unrelated to my thyroid, or childish. When I told him that after my morning exercise routine I'm completely wiped out for most of the day, he seemed to understand that as being related to thyroid (or low iron, whichever).So that's my first report on Dr. Gibbs. ~Chelle

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You said 2 grains in your earlier post. .2mg is more of a dosage for synthetic unless he expects them to convert it. 2 grains is 120mg and 'about' equivalent to .2mg of levothyroxine.

Re: Dr. Lynn Gibbs - Katy, TX

The Walgreens in my area (about 1.5 miles away) doesn't have Armour, but the Wal-Mart at Hwy 290 @ Spring-Cypress Rd does. When they asked me what strength I needed I told them 0.2 mg because that was what Dr. Gibbs wrote on the Rx. What would be the equivalent in grains? Anybody? >> Chelle, I have gotten Armour at Walgreens in our> area... just be sure that you tell them you can't do> the generic!!! I made them put that in my file.> -Ruth

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Thank you, I will keep that in mind. Tomorrow when I go to Wal-Mart I am going to tell them that I just saw Dr. Gibbs yesterday (7/17) and that he said he would prescribe 2 grains but he made a small error on the Rx form. If they want to verify that they can call him -- his number is right on the Rx. I am also going to call the office and make them aware of the error he made, and to specify that I want the brand name and to please make that very clear to Wal-Mart. Thanks to the photos of pills you posted in the Photos section of this group, Jan, I am well aware of what Armour pills look like. The Wal-Mart pharmacists and staff will not be able to deceive me.~Chelle>> You do not need to be a member at Costco or Sam's to get a prescription filled. > > Do make sure that you get brand name Armour. Regardless of where you get it, you will have to remind them when you order refills and check you pills before leaving the pharmacy.> > They would love to slip you a generic. It is not the same.

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>> 120 mg of Armour is thought to be equivalent to between 150 and 200 mcg of T4 only. The apples do not always equal the oranges, and the chart on the ArmourThyroid site contradicts the prescribing info. But the 120 mg of Armour is probably an appropriate starting dose for you. Do get your Free T3 and Free T4 tested in 6-10 weeks.> (Me) More than likely it will be closer to 10 weeks, unless I get a really good job/assignment and the insurance kicks back in again. I did find the conversion chart on the Armour Thyroid site (in the FAQ section), which is how I figured out that he made a mistake on the Rx and will notify his office tomorrow that I discovered this. 0.2 mg of Armour is an infinitesimally tiny amount!> (Jan) Don't toss all of your levothyroxine just yet. Some of us take a small amount of levothyroxine with our Armour to correct the T4:T3 ratio, based on our labs. (Me) OK. I'll keep it just in case, but I won't take any of it just yet. It's my last refill. Do you think I might have to split the pills in half? I can't imagine having to take a whole 175 mcg T4 pill with 2 grains of Armour, but I guess I won't really know that until after I've been on Armour for a while.

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Half would probably be too much, too. Maybe a quarter pill would be a useful amount. wrote: >> 120 mg of Armour is thought to be equivalent to between 150 and 200 mcg of T4 only. The apples do not always equal the oranges, and the chart on the ArmourThyroid site contradicts the prescribing info. But the 120 mg of Armour is probably an appropriate starting dose for you. Do get your Free T3 and Free T4 tested in 6-10 weeks.> (Me) More than likely it will be closer to

10 weeks, unless I get a really good job/assignment and the insurance kicks back in again. I did find the conversion chart on the Armour Thyroid site (in the FAQ section), which is how I figured out that he made a mistake on the Rx and will notify his office tomorrow that I discovered this. 0.2 mg of Armour is an infinitesimally tiny amount!> (Jan) Don't toss all of your levothyroxine just yet. Some of us take a small amount of levothyroxine with our Armour to correct the T4:T3 ratio, based on our labs. (Me) OK. I'll keep it just in case, but I won't take any of it just yet. It's my last refill. Do you think I might have to split the pills in half? I can't imagine having to take a whole 175 mcg T4 pill with 2 grains of Armour, but I guess I

won't really know that until after I've been on Armour for a while.

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I am a patient of Dr. Lynn Gibbs and I was the one who informed him thatArmour could be purchased at places like Walgreens and CVS. In fact, Ipurchase mine from CVS located at Kingsland and Hwy 99 (Grand Parkway) inKaty. I have never had a problem with getting my meds and I've beenbuying Armour for several years now. When I asked for Armour Dr. Gibbstold me it was hard to find and I explained to him that I had been usingit for several years and I told him where I purchase it. He seemed quitesurprised and told me he would tell his patients in the future that theycould buy Armour at the locations I told him about. I guess his memoryisn't that good when it comes to passing along that kind of info. At 05:01 PM 7/17/2006, you wrote:I saw Dr. Lynn Gibbs (maledoctor) this afternoon. So far so good. He Rx'd me 2 grainsArmour with 11 refillsafter I told him that according to my parents I did very well on it as achild, and that I haven't done that great with synthetics during mychildhood and adulthood. Now I just have to find a pharmacy thatwill dispense Armour for me. Dr. Gibbs said it's " dirtcheap " but he also said that I'll more likely find it at someplacelike The Medicine Shoppe than at bigger or chain stores like Wal-Mart orWalgreens. Is that true, or is he just misinformed?He also ordered a few tests today including Free T3, Free T4, TSH, TotalT4, Ferritin, TIBC (Total Iron Body Capacity -- something my sister who'sa P.A. recommended I have done), and HDL/LDL cholesterol. He w!ants to see me in 6 weeks, at which time I'll have the same thyroid testsdone. The lab tests cost about $500 but the girl who took my bloodsaid that they would work with me to either make payment arrangements orif my household makes less than a certain amount that they would writeoff part or all of the cost. Heh -- with my luck myhusband probably makes just over the limit. But aslong as the lab is willing to work with me on payment arrangements, I canmaybe get the lab tests done about every 3-4 months (not 6 weeks like hewants me to -- I need to pay off one set of lab tests before I get thenext set). At least the office visit was only $54. Thathelped a little.Anyway, he seems like a very good doctor. He listenedto me, and he didn't dismiss my symptoms as unreal, unrelated tomy ! thyroid, or childish. When I told him that after my morningexer cise routine I'm completely wiped out for most of the day, he seemedto understand that as being related to thyroid (or low iron,whichever).So that's my first report on Dr. Gibbs.~Chelle

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I'm trying to cut him a little slack because I know he has a lot of patients to see in a day and information to remember about each of them. I called his office this morning and found out that the message my pharmacy had originally left with them was misplaced, so I talked to the girl about Armour Thyroid dosage amounts and how they're primarily in grains, not mg (and definitely not mcg) and that the smallest Armour dose -- 1/4 grain -- is 15 mg. So for him to write my dose as 0.2 mg makes no sense at all, and I told her that. Dr. Gibbs' nurse doesn't come in until noon, and I'm sure the office staff takes lunch from about 12 to 1 or something like that, so I don't expect to hear back from them until after 1:00.

This is getting ridiculous, though. It shouldn't take them this long to correct a simple dosing error. If it's not corrected by the end of the day, I'm seriously considering requesting that Dr. Gibbs be removed from our "good doc" list in this group. Enough is enough already.

Sorry, just had to vent.

~Chelle

(I hope this message gets posted --- the last one I wrote never showed up, even after 2 hours. Is something wrong with Yahoo?)

>> I am a patient of Dr. Lynn Gibbs and I was the one who informed him > that Armour could be purchased at places like Walgreens and CVS. In > fact, I purchase mine from CVS located at Kingsland and Hwy 99 (Grand > Parkway) in Katy. I have never had a problem with getting my meds and > I've been buying Armour for several years now. When I asked for > Armour Dr. Gibbs told me it was hard to find and I explained to him > that I had been using it for several years and I told him where I > purchase it. He seemed quite surprised and told me he would tell his > patients in the future that they could buy Armour at the locations I > told him about. I guess his memory isn't that good when it comes to > passing along that kind of info.> > >

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That would be 200 mgs, not .2 mgs, if you're talking about Armour. Synthetic T4 meds are measured in mcgs, as in the .1mgs (100 mcgs), .2mgs. (200 mcgs), etc.....60 mgs of Armour equals 1 grain, 120 mgs Armour equals 2 grains, and so on. So, 200 mgs Armour would equal 3 and 1/3 grains of Armour. (60 Xs 3 + another 20 mgs)

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The Walgreens in my area (about 1.5 miles away) doesn't have Armour, but the Wal-Mart at Hwy 290 @ Spring-Cypress Rd does. When they asked me what strength I needed I told them 0.2 mg because that was what Dr. Gibbs wrote on the Rx. What would be the equivalent in grains? Anybody?

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Hey, I'd do the conga line by myself any day if I had the energy. You go girl!

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Well, it's all been corrected now. The doctor's office finally called Wal-Mart, and then I called Wal-Mart...and then I went and picked up my Armour. So I have it now! *dances around the room* Fin'lly got my Ar-mour, Fin'lly got my Ar-mour!OK, that's enough. No fun doing a conga line by myself! >> That would be 200 mgs, not .2 mgs, if you're talking about Armour. Synthetic T4 meds are measured in mcgs, as in the .1mgs (100 mcgs), .2mgs. (200 mcgs), etc.....60 mgs of Armour equals 1 grain, 120 mgs Armour equals 2 grains, and so on. So, 200 mgs Armour would equal 3 and 1/3 grains of Armour. (60 Xs 3 + another 20 mgs)> >

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LOL Thanks Judy! I'm a-goin'! (or I will be, anyway )>> Hey, I'd do the conga line by myself any day if I had the energy. You go girl!

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I was very excited too when I started on July 1st! No instant results, maybe, like Sharon said, a little less dead. Being too impatient is my biggest problem right now.

Here's to feeling better,

Carol

> >> > That would be 200 mgs, not .2 mgs, if you're talking about Armour. > Synthetic T4 meds are measured in mcgs, as in the .1mgs (100 mcgs),> .2mgs. (200 mcgs), etc.....60 mgs of Armour equals 1 grain, 120 mgs> Armour equals 2 grains, and so on. So, 200 mgs Armour would equal 3 and> 1/3 grains of Armour. (60 Xs 3 + another 20 mgs)> >> > >

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>> I can't get the 'fin'ly got my Armour' conga beat out of my head! Sorry Judy! > > I don't take anything specifically for thyroid, but I do have many of the vitamins and minerals that you mentioned in other supplements. I've read that there should be a four hour break between taking the thyroid meds and certain other things like soy, magnesium, calcium carbonate, etc. because of their effect on absorption. I also avoid iodine containing ingredients like kelp and seaweed although it's been so long that I don't remember why. I guess, in my mind, it's to avoid going hyper. Having said that, if you've been doing it all along, then I guess it would already be compensated for in your numbers. Plus I could have it all wrong as well. Well, as I wrote in my previous post I'm going to scale way down in the supplement dept. for a while -- my multivitamin/multimineral only, nothing else, until I have a better idea of how I'm going to react to this dose of Armour. Simplification is a good thing sometimes -- actually a lot of times. Life is complicated enough.~Chelle

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Are you excited or what??Lol!

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Re: Dr. Lynn Gibbs - Katy, TX

>> I can't get the 'fin'ly got my Armour' conga beat out of my head! Sorry Judy! > > I don't take anything specifically for thyroid, but I do have many of the vitamins and minerals that you mentioned in other supplements. I've read that there should be a four hour break between taking the thyroid meds and certain other things like soy, magnesium, calcium carbonate, etc. because of the ir effect on absorption. I also avoid iodine containing ingredients like kelp and seaweed although it's been so long that I don't remember why. I guess, in my mind, it's to avoid going hyper. Having said that, if you've been doing it all along, then I guess it would already be compensated for in your numbers. Plus I could have it all wrong as well. Well, as I wrote in my previous post I'm going to scale way down in the supplement dept. for a while -- my multivitamin/multimineral only, nothing else, until I have a better idea of how I'm going to react to this dose of Armour. Simplification is a good thing sometimes -- actually a lot of times. Life is complicated enough.~Chelle

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For me, for now, he said to take a multi-vitamin with iron. But I'm sure it's different for each patient.

Carol

> >> >> > Chelle,> >> > In my opinion, you will be able to gauge your response to Armour> better> > if you're not taking supplements with it. In general you should> > probably only take supplements if your doc is aware of it and agrees.> >> > I'm only taking what my doc has prescribed and recommended (in the> case> > of vitamins).> >> > Carol>

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My whole-food vitamins have iron (18 mg of ferrous fumarate per 6 capsules) in them. They also make a no-iron variety. Because they're from whole-food sources rather than synthetic, they're not as concentrated. They come in capsules and tablets. For the tablets the suggested dose is 3 per day; for the capsules it's 6 per day, so I take 3 at lunch and 3 at dinner. I also take one softgel per day of Omega 3-6-9 (flax, borage and fish oil), and two capsules of chlorella twice a day (again at lunch and dinner -- 2 capsules have about 1.2 mg of iron). Those will be my only supplements for a while. I know it seems like a lot, but you should see the "cocktail" of supplements I've been taking. Trust me, this is a drastic cutback. ~Chelle>> > For me, for now, he said to take a multi-vitamin with iron. But I'm> sure it's different for each patient.> > Carol

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I forgot to add, he said Centrum is fine. That's what I was taking before, when I remembered to take it that is...I used to be so good about that.

Carol

> > >> > >> > > Chelle,> > >> > > In my opinion, you will be able to gauge your response to Armour> > better> > > if you're not taking supplements with it. In general you should> > > probably only take supplements if your doc is aware of it and> agrees.> > >> > > I'm only taking what my doc has prescribed and recommended (in the> > case> > > of vitamins).> > >> > > Carol> >>

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If you decrease your vitamins/supplements... you are

changing more than just the thyroid meds. How will you

know if the new meds are any different if you change

all the other stuff at the same time? Just

wondering... I sometimes change a lot of things at the

same time, and then I don't know what is causing the

symptoms or lack of symptoms and it is back to

guessing...

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> My whole-food vitamins have iron (18 mg of ferrous

> fumarate per 6

> capsules) in them. They also make a no-iron

> variety. Because they're

> from whole-food sources rather than synthetic,

> they're not as

> concentrated. They come in capsules and tablets.

> For the tablets the

> suggested dose is 3 per day; for the capsules it's 6

> per day, so I take

> 3 at lunch and 3 at dinner. I also take one softgel

> per day of Omega

> 3-6-9 (flax, borage and fish oil), and two capsules

> of chlorella twice a

> day (again at lunch and dinner -- 2 capsules have

> about 1.2 mg of iron).

> Those will be my only supplements for a while. I

> know it seems like a

> lot, but you should see the " cocktail " of

> supplements I've been taking.

> Trust me, this is a drastic cutback. []

>

> ~Chelle

>

>

> >

> >

> > For me, for now, he said to take a multi-vitamin

> with iron. But I'm

> > sure it's different for each patient.

> >

> > Carol

>

>

>

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Hmmm, good point. I hadn't thought of it quite that way. Maybe I should just keep everything the same, so that it's only the Armour that's changed. I see what you mean -- if I decrease all the other stuff and I start having hypo symptoms again (or hyper symptoms) I won't know if it's because of the Armour or the change in my supplement regimen. Besides, I believe the supplements are doing me good.~Chelle>> If you decrease your vitamins/supplements... you are> changing more than just the thyroid meds. How will you> know if the new meds are any different if you change> all the other stuff at the same time? Just> wondering... I sometimes change a lot of things at the> same time, and then I don't know what is causing the> symptoms or lack of symptoms and it is back to> guessing...