RE: Hunger- Habits- Hard!!!!!

[Guest guest]

Hey Christy,

I understand what you are saying and it is still really hard with

7.5mls in my band!

I got on the scales this morning after 2 weeks of not getting on the

scales and i have put on 2ksg i got off and yelled and screamed

kicked the cat lol..

I go to the gym for a hour everymorning monday to saturday just

resting on sundays i do a 30 min walk every night, i eat 3 small

meals a day stoped all Wine and beer and drink 3lts of water yes i

live my life in the loo lol,

But i think well if its flashing the fat and crap out i will keep

doing it, after this morning i thought whats the point? why do i put

up with this every day to put on 2kgs GRRRRRRRRRRR,,, so i walked

straight into the kitchen and ate 4 tim tams at 8am this morning

lol....

was yelling at me saying what he hell are you doing ? i am

yelling back yell i eat healthy and excerise my butt off all week to

put on 2kgs i might as well eat what i love and put it on lol....

I am having all my measurements done tomorrow at the gym so i am

hoping that at least in the last 5 weeks i have lost some bloody fat!

Someone ask me yesterday hows it all going? i said Well i havent Pb

today so its all good today if they asked me i would say Its F@@Ked

and i am so over it!!

OK i feel alttle better now lol.....

NOW have to go and walk off my tim tam's that i had for breakfast

before it turns into another 2kgs

LOVE

JAY

>

> I've been reading the boards feeling like a freak because things

are

> such a struggle. I've just read Irene's post and I am so with you -

> I feel so ashamed of myself. If you don't mind I need to rant....

>

> I stayed on liquids diligently for the first week post-op (banded

> 23/7/08). But by the time I got to puree stage I was STARVING!!!

The

> puree's helped, but i found that within a few days I needed to

> thicken them up. By 2 weeks post-op I was on chunky (but wet)

mashed

> foods. That made the difference for me. I was eating more than

> recommended too (3/4-1cup rather than the 1/2cup recommended). Then

I

> got my period and found myself eating the odd piece of dark

> chocolate, jatz bickies or spoonful of peanut butter. I'm sure I'd

> put on 2kg.

>

> I saw the dietitian at my 3-weeks post-op appt. and she agreed that

I

> was hungry and I probably needed a fill. Dr Fill was not happy

about

> my progress (I'd lost about 8kg all up) and he didn't really want

to

> give me a fill. But he checked the band and found I already had

some

> fluid in the band and he said he put in .8ml. He told me not to

get

> too hung up on how much was in the band, but that I MUST change my

> habits. He also said that as the day progresses or when you're

> relaxed your band loosens. I noticed a big improvement for three

> days after the fill but 2 weeks later things feel bad again. I ate

2

> pieces of cheese on toast for breakfast this morning (though I do

> feel very full). I've had a couple of PB's lately and the last

three

> night I've woken in the middle of the night with extraordinary pain

> in my stomach.

>

> So here's the thing I think is going on....

> 1. I'm not drinking enough water (i seem to have gone off it for

some

> reason)

> 2. I'm eating too fast - need to slow down and chew more

> 3. Portion size too big

> 4. Not stopping when I feel full!

>

> I'm trying to exercise more (managed to walk 4 of 5 days this week

> and I get to go back to the gym on 30th). I'm trying to deal with

> the Emotional eating (just bought a book about it, but haven't

> started reading it yet).

>

> I knew that the band was only a tool, but its still hard. I was

very

> happy with my weightloss but the doctors comments that I should

have

> lost more really cut. My loss seems to have slowed to about .5kg a

> week.I need some advice about how others have dealt with these

> habits. Like Irene I feel so ashamed. I'm sick of feeling ashamed

> about my behaviour around food - aaaaaaaaarghghhg! Will this end???

>

> Christy

>

[Guest guest]

Hello Christy

First of all congratulations on the 8kgs lost I think that's a great start

And I think its a bit sad your doctor said it wasn't good enough

From what I can figure you have only been banded 4 weeks

Did I read that right

Then this is very early days

You need congratulating and encouragement

Do not feel ashamed Hun you have made a great start

It takes a while before you will get any restriction

And I would think your surgeon would know that too

Maybe they are just trying to get you to eat smaller portions

But maybe they have been a bit too terse in the way you have been spoken too

Though I may have interpreted that wrong

My thinking is in early days we need praise and encouragement

This isnt an easy journey and it all takes time

We have to make big adjustments to our way of eating and thinking

And this wont happen over night

Don't get discouraged and give yourself a pat on the back for the 8kgs lost

Well done I say

And keep in touch with the group

The support is so needed by most of us

And there are lots of experienced bandits here to give support and advice

Hugs Leeanne

-- Hunger- Habits- Hard!!!!!

I've been reading the boards feeling like a freak because things are

such a struggle. I've just read Irene's post and I am so with you -

I feel so ashamed of myself. If you don't mind I need to rant....

I stayed on liquids diligently for the first week post-op (banded

23/7/08). But by the time I got to puree stage I was STARVING!!! The

puree's helped, but i found that within a few days I needed to

thicken them up. By 2 weeks post-op I was on chunky (but wet) mashed

foods. That made the difference for me. I was eating more than

recommended too (3/4-1cup rather than the 1/2cup recommended). Then I

got my period and found myself eating the odd piece of dark

chocolate, jatz bickies or spoonful of peanut butter. I'm sure I'd

put on 2kg.

I saw the dietitian at my 3-weeks post-op appt. and she agreed that I

was hungry and I probably needed a fill. Dr Fill was not happy about

my progress (I'd lost about 8kg all up) and he didn't really want to

give me a fill. But he checked the band and found I already had some

fluid in the band and he said he put in .8ml. He told me not to get

too hung up on how much was in the band, but that I MUST change my

habits. He also said that as the day progresses or when you're

relaxed your band loosens. I noticed a big improvement for three

days after the fill but 2 weeks later things feel bad again. I ate 2

pieces of cheese on toast for breakfast this morning (though I do

feel very full). I've had a couple of PB's lately and the last three

night I've woken in the middle of the night with extraordinary pain

in my stomach.

So here's the thing I think is going on....

1. I'm not drinking enough water (i seem to have gone off it for some

reason)

2. I'm eating too fast - need to slow down and chew more

3. Portion size too big

4. Not stopping when I feel full!

I'm trying to exercise more (managed to walk 4 of 5 days this week

and I get to go back to the gym on 30th). I'm trying to deal with

the Emotional eating (just bought a book about it, but haven't

started reading it yet).

I knew that the band was only a tool, but its still hard. I was very

happy with my weightloss but the doctors comments that I should have

lost more really cut. My loss seems to have slowed to about .5kg a

week.I need some advice about how others have dealt with these

habits. Like Irene I feel so ashamed. I'm sick of feeling ashamed

about my behaviour around food - aaaaaaaaarghghhg! Will this end???

Christy

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[Guest guest]

Christy, please dont feel bad! I think you have done really well and 8kg gone is nothing to be sneezed at! Some Dr's could be a little more encouraging........some of them might be brilliant surgeons or whatever, but they (usually) have never had a weight problem in their lives and they really dont know what its like to fight yourself every single day about what you put in your mouth, as most of us know all too well! If you hadnt had the band, just think that you may have GAINED 8kg in this time.....it really is all good!

Personally, after I was banded, I had amazing restriction for the first 3 days where half a cup of broth filled me right up but after that I have had to be careful because I can still eat a fair bit. Nowhere NEAR what I could before, mind you, but still more than I thought I would be able to. Its a bit of a trial and error thing, getting fills and we are all different.

I think your little checklist is probably spot on.......follow it and see how you feel. Its a good reminder to some of the rest of us too who also dont drink enough or chew well enough.

Half a kilo per week is great, that works out to 2kg per month or 24kg for the year!!! And thats 3-4 dress sizes Hang in there girl, you are doing great!!

Mon

From: SydBand [mailto:SydBand ] On Behalf Of ChristySent: Sunday, 24 August 2008 9:58 AMTo: SydBand Subject: Hunger- Habits- Hard!!!!!

I've been reading the boards feeling like a freak because things are such a struggle. I've just read Irene's post and I am so with you - I feel so ashamed of myself. If you don't mind I need to rant....I stayed on liquids diligently for the first week post-op (banded 23/7/08). But by the time I got to puree stage I was STARVING!!! The puree's helped, but i found that within a few days I needed to thicken them up. By 2 weeks post-op I was on chunky (but wet) mashed foods. That made the difference for me. I was eating more than recommended too (3/4-1cup rather than the 1/2cup recommended). Then I got my period and found myself eating the odd piece of dark chocolate, jatz bickies or spoonful of peanut butter. I'm sure I'd put on 2kg. I saw the dietitian at my 3-weeks post-op appt. and she agreed that I was hungry and I probably needed a fill. Dr Fill was not happy about my progress (I'd lost about 8kg all up) and he didn't really want to give me a fill. But he checked the band and found I already had some fluid in the band and he said he put in .8ml. He told me not to get too hung up on how much was in the band, but that I MUST change my habits. He also said that as the day progresses or when you're relaxed your band loosens. I noticed a big improvement for three days after the fill but 2 weeks later things feel bad again. I ate 2 pieces of cheese on toast for breakfast this morning (though I do feel very full). I've had a couple of PB's lately and the last three night I've woken in the middle of the night with extraordinary pain in my stomach.So here's the thing I think is going on....1. I'm not drinking enough water (i seem to have gone off it for some reason)2. I'm eating too fast - need to slow down and chew more 3. Portion size too big 4. Not stopping when I feel full!I'm trying to exercise more (managed to walk 4 of 5 days this week and I get to go back to the gym on 30th). I'm trying to deal with the Emotional eating (just bought a book about it, but haven't started reading it yet).I knew that the band was only a tool, but its still hard. I was very happy with my weightloss but the doctors comments that I should have lost more really cut. My loss seems to have slowed to about .5kg a week.I need some advice about how others have dealt with these habits. Like Irene I feel so ashamed. I'm sick of feeling ashamed about my behaviour around food - aaaaaaaaarghghhg! Will this end???Christy

[Guest guest]

Hi Jay,

If it helps any I think it is normal to fluctuate all the time. I haven't lost weight for ages and fluctuate by a kilo every few days.

We have good days and bad days.. and we had lots of bad days pre bands. Just bad days now are not nearly as bad as what we used to to. We are bad in smaller quantities.

We are only human. Don't stress on it. Keep going girl.. you have done so well. If you exercise, eat everyday in moderation, whether you are having a good day or a bad day... it will come off sometimes quickly sometimes slowly..

What did Hughsie say? His scales are definitely not helpful... but how did he feel you were going??...Ali

To: SydBand From: ms_independent_78@...Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 00:16:02 +0000Subject: Re: Hunger- Habits- Hard!!!!!

Hey Christy,I understand what you are saying and it is still really hard with 7.5mls in my band!I got on the scales this morning after 2 weeks of not getting on the scales and i have put on 2ksg i got off and yelled and screamed kicked the cat lol..I go to the gym for a hour everymorning monday to saturday just resting on sundays i do a 30 min walk every night, i eat 3 small meals a day stoped all Wine and beer and drink 3lts of water yes i live my life in the loo lol,But i think well if its flashing the fat and crap out i will keep doing it, after this morning i thought whats the point? why do i put up with this every day to put on 2kgs GRRRRRRRRRRR,,, so i walked straight into the kitchen and ate 4 tim tams at 8am this morning lol.... was yelling at me saying what he hell are you doing ? i am yelling back yell i eat healthy and excerise my butt off all week to put on 2kgs i might as well eat what i love and put it on lol....I am having all my measurements done tomorrow at the gym so i am hoping that at least in the last 5 weeks i have lost some bloody fat!Someone ask me yesterday hows it all going? i said Well i havent Pb today so its all good today if they asked me i would say Its F@@Ked and i am so over it!!OK i feel alttle better now lol.....NOW have to go and walk off my tim tam's that i had for breakfast before it turns into another 2kgs LOVEJAY >> I've been reading the boards feeling like a freak because things are > such a struggle. I've just read Irene's post and I am so with you -> I feel so ashamed of myself. If you don't mind I need to rant....> > I stayed on liquids diligently for the first week post-op (banded > 23/7/08). But by the time I got to puree stage I was STARVING!!! The > puree's helped, but i found that within a few days I needed to > thicken them up. By 2 weeks post-op I was on chunky (but wet) mashed > foods. That made the difference for me. I was eating more than > recommended too (3/4-1cup rather than the 1/2cup recommended). Then I > got my period and found myself eating the odd piece of dark > chocolate, jatz bickies or spoonful of peanut butter. I'm sure I'd > put on 2kg. > > I saw the dietitian at my 3-weeks post-op appt. and she agreed that I > was hungry and I probably needed a fill. Dr Fill was not happy about > my progress (I'd lost about 8kg all up) and he didn't really want to > give me a fill. But he checked the band and found I already had some > fluid in the band and he said he put in .8ml. He told me not to get > too hung up on how much was in the band, but that I MUST change my > habits. He also said that as the day progresses or when you're > relaxed your band loosens. I noticed a big improvement for three > days after the fill but 2 weeks later things feel bad again. I ate 2 > pieces of cheese on toast for breakfast this morning (though I do > feel very full). I've had a couple of PB's lately and the last three > night I've woken in the middle of the night with extraordinary pain > in my stomach.> > So here's the thing I think is going on....> 1. I'm not drinking enough water (i seem to have gone off it for some > reason)> 2. I'm eating too fast - need to slow down and chew more > 3. Portion size too big > 4. Not stopping when I feel full!> > I'm trying to exercise more (managed to walk 4 of 5 days this week > and I get to go back to the gym on 30th). I'm trying to deal with > the Emotional eating (just bought a book about it, but haven't > started reading it yet).> > I knew that the band was only a tool, but its still hard. I was very > happy with my weightloss but the doctors comments that I should have > lost more really cut. My loss seems to have slowed to about .5kg a > week.I need some advice about how others have dealt with these > habits. Like Irene I feel so ashamed. I'm sick of feeling ashamed > about my behaviour around food - aaaaaaaaarghghhg! Will this end???> > Christy> Find out: SEEK Salary Centre Are you paid what you're worth?