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For those who missed it, here are the facts about Yahoo¹s service change

again.

Robbie in FL, moderator chronic_pain.

AS, RS (ReA), FMS, CFS

feralelf@...

Many, many thanks to Hower for doing the legwork on this one !

I confirmed this myself. Yahoo has long had optional pay services IN

ADDITION TO their free services.

For example, it¹s been possible on Yahoo to get a larger inbox for a fee.

That¹s been going on for over 3 years now. Check out the details here:

https://ordering.yahoo.com/or/ypm/splash?577 & Pkgs=us:ym:space & .osig=3Anzm

The groups are going nowhere. Yahoo¹s CLUBS have recently been consolidated

into the Groups, as they were about the same thing to begin with.

Yahoo Mail, Yahoo Groups, and all their other free services will stay

exactly the same.

In addition to what wrote to us, I¹m including some articles about the

change at the bottom of this post.

Again, this will ONLY affect you if you use POP Forwarding , ie read your

Yahoo mail off a client like Outlook or Eudora !

Robbie in FL, moderator chronic_pain.

AS, RS (ReA), FMS, CFS

feralelf@...

Hower wrote:

In Yahoo¹s latest effort to introduce fees around its popular site, the Web

portal will begin charging for a service that lets people check their Yahoo

e-mail messages from outside services. THE SERVICE, CALLED POP3 or Mail

Forwarding, automatically forwards e-mails received in a person¹s Yahoo

account to any outside e-mail service, such as Microsoft Outlook or Eudora.

Beginning April 24, Mail Forwarding will cost $29.99 a year, according to a

message posted on Yahoo¹s site. However, people who subscribe before April

24 can pay $19.99 a year.

The full article on MSNBC is at: http://www.msnbc.com/news/727470.asp

Yahoo has been charging for other services for some time. But, there is no

mention on their site of any impending changes to Yahoo Groups.

http://asia.cnet.com/newstech/industry/0,39001143,39033478,00.htm

Yahoo tacks fees onto e-mail, storage

By Jim Hu, CNET News.com

Friday, March 22 2002 11:07 AM

Yahoo said Thursday that it will soon implement new fees in once-free areas

on its service, marking the Web portal's latest effort to boost

non-advertising revenue.

The company said it will begin charging for a feature that lets people check

their Yahoo e-mail messages from outside services. In addition, the company

will limit public access to its data storage service in hopes of persuading

people to pay for it.

" For-pay services on Yahoo, originally launched in February 1999, have

experienced great acceptance from our base of active registered users, and

we expect this adoption to continue to grow, " said Yahoo spokeswoman

Osako.

Over the past year, Yahoo has begun charging for certain services to

counterbalance the crippling effects of the weak advertising environment.

Yahoo executives have publicly stated their intention to charge for services

that are costly to run, such as data storage within its e-mail, photo and

file-sharing areas.

The company recently began charging for specific features on its home-page

builder, GeoCities. And earlier this week, Yahoo began surveying customers

to gauge their willingness to pay for streaming video.

The first set of fees affect a service that allows Yahoo Mail users to

consolidate their e-mail messages from outside accounts accessed through

software such as Microsoft Outlook or Qualcomm's Eudora.

Beginning April 24, Yahoo's Mail Forwarding service will cost US$29.99 a

year, according to a message posted on Yahoo's site. People who subscribe

before April 24 will pay US$19.99 for the first year.

The paid Mail Forwarding service will allow people to use outside e-mail

services to access Yahoo Mail, automatically forward mail to another e-mail

account, and send attachments of up to 5MB instead of the current 1.5MB

limit. Paying subscribers will not have a Yahoo text advertisement attached

to the bottom of their outgoing messages.

In addition to changes in free e-mail, Yahoo plans to pull back on services

that rely on data storage. Beginning March 25, nonpaying visitors to Yahoo

Photos only will be able to view thumbnails on the page. People who pay for

extra storage will be able to view high-resolution files. All visitors will

be able to order prints of digital photos.

The company also will place restrictions on a Yahoo Briefcase service that

allows people to uploaded files, requiring hosts to pay for extra storage if

they want to let non-Yahoo members access files.

Extra storage costs US$24.95 a year for 50MB and US$34.95 a year for 100MB.

The plan also comes in monthly payments of US$2.95 and US$4.95,

respectively. People who have already purchased storage will not be affected

by the changes.

For many Yahoo users, the service change was expected. The mood around

message boards such as EmailDiscussions.com was one of resignation that the

Web is outgrowing its freewheeling past.

" I have sorta expected Yahoo to do something like this, " one person's post

read.

Al Hogan, a Washington, D.C., computer consultant and Yahoo shareholder,

applauded the company for finding a price point that wasn't too expensive.

" They've done their market research; it's hard to argue with US$2 a month, "

Hogan said. " It would be more (of) a pain for me to update everyone that my

address has changed. I would rather pay the fee. "

http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,90304,00.asp

Yahoo Puts Fees on Some Mail Services

 

Newest charges are imposed for POP3 mail access and autoforwarding.

PCWorld.com Staff

Thursday, March 21, 2002

All free Web-based e-mail services are trying to charge customers for

" extras, " but Yahoo has gone a step further, implementing fees for

forwarding and some types of access.

Yahoo will charge customers who access their Yahoo Mail accounts using POP3

programs, as well as users who have their Yahoo e-mail automatically

forwarded to other accounts. The fees for these services are $30 yearly,

effective April 24. Any users who do not pay will lose access on that date,

according to Yahoo. However, Yahoo is providing a discount deal to customers

who commit before April 24, offering the first year of the services for $20.

Until now, users of Yahoo Mail could download e-mail onto their own PCs,

through desktop e-mail programs that use the Post Office Protocol 3 (POP3)

standard of receiving e-mail held from an Internet server. They could also

automatically forward their Yahoo mail to a different e-mail account for

free.

Joins Similar FeesAdvertisement

The company's new paid package was detailed in an e-mail message to its

users on Thursday. The service permits users of Outlook, Eudora, and other

POP3 applications to access and manage Yahoo Mail. It also allows users to

automatically forward their Yahoo e-mail to another e-mail account, even a

non-Yahoo one. And subscribers who pay the new fees will be permitted to

send and receive e-mail with larger attachments, up to 5MB, the company

says. Previously, Yahoo imposed a 1.5MB attachment limit on its service.

Yahoo has stepped up its efforts to market value-added services and turn

some of its free customers into fee-paying ones. Customers' use of POP3

applications nips at Yahoo's ability to sell additional online storage,

since those users' mail is stored on their local PCs.

Mail.com, now owned by Net2Phone, recently added POP3 access and e-mail

forwarding to its Web-based mail service as a premium offering. It charges

$4 monthly for POP3 access, $3 monthly for forwarding. Last year, Web mail

provider USA.net began charging its 7 million e-mail customers, whose

accounts were previously free, $50 annually.

Some 150 million free e-mail accounts are in use--and they are a potential

revenue opportunity for the sites that manage them, say researchers at IDC.

But charging fees for formerly free services online, and adding new ones

that could entice customers to pay, is a growing trend.

Familiar Action

Yahoo rival Hotmail, owned by Microsoft, is not charging for such

services--yet. However, Hotmail users report that the e-mail service is

aggressively marketing its other services, which do carry a fee. For

example, a recent mass mailing to Hotmail customers urged them to pay for

additional online storage (priced at $20 for up to 30MB). Hotmail users risk

losing their stored e-mail if their accounts are not accessed for a 30-day

period. That threat is common to free Web-based e-mail.

Yahoo already offers storage space upgrades at $10 yearly for 10MB. It also

dropped its free e-mail storage limit from 6MB down to 4MB.

Earlier in February, Yahoo clipped the apron strings on customers using FTP

with the company's free GeoCities Web hosting service. GeoCities users who

want FTP access now must subscribe to a pay service for $5 monthly, plus a

setup fee. Yahoo also charges customers for several small-business services,

including hosting, subdomain support, scripting tools, and multiple e-mail

addresses.

Yahoo, which launched as a search engine and evolved into a portal, has even

begun charging for one aspect of its root services, imposing fees for

premium search content. The Premium Document Search service accesses 70

million pages from more than 7100 sources, and costs $5 monthly for access

to up to 50 documents. Summary views of documents are free.

(Scarlet Pruitt of the IDG News Service contributed to this report.)

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Pat,

I know exactly what you mean about the Ambien! How long have you been taking

it? I was that way with it a while back. I'd get up and cook and not know it. I

would talk on the phone to people and never remember it. I guess I said some

things that probably shouldn't have been said to my ex b/f on the phone and

everything else. It was my " honest " pill. Whatever I thought or felt right then,

I said. I don't remember any of it. I guess I just got really evil when I took

it. Anyhow, I just wanted you to know that it's not only you! I still take it

but no longer have problems like that. Anyways, if you have any other questions

or anything feel free to contact me.

Love ya,

Dani

patricia {pat} wrote:

Well I did what Jo said,,,so they know how

I feel about this color not changing....

I did notice that when I went back to the

group that the message that I started reading

today was changed,but then had to scroll to find

where I left off...Have they also changed the way

we read them...it is not from top to bottom any

more,,,,I just don't like changes I guess...

Now other things, I guess I am going to have to get

some o/tcounter stuff to take to help me sleep...If I don't

take something I have nightmares or just don't sleep

all night..I am begining to do things while under

Ambein,,,and I don't like not being in somewhat

control of myself....Ruthie said that I answered the

phone when some mother of s friends called,

got up to look for a ph # and stumbled into something.

Ruthie told me to go back to bed and I did,,,but until

she told me about it yesterday I didn't remember it..

and still don't remember answering the ph...I am just

afraid that I might do something and hurt someone...I

get up and go to the bathroom and go back to bed and

remember doing that,but I just don't like not remembering.

Maybe I will be able to get rid of this headache I always

have....

God bless,

Pat

~ I'm Surrounded By ANGELS, I Call Them My *Friends* ~

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