Guest guest Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 Wow, my second post in two days! Yesterday I posted on how wonderful things have been. I know I have been dealing with anemia for the past two years and it has just gotten to be 'the norm' and never looked at as debilitating. I am exhausted and nothing makes me feel any better, so I just keep plugging along and taking the iron 2x a day and getting my follow up labs and told to keep doing this. In my post yesterday, I told you I was starting to ride horses again. This is my passion and I think of nothing else all week. I got to the barn, and yes I was tired, I tacked up and started riding. I could not do anything but walk my horse. I would try to post in trots and got 1/2 way around the arena and had to stop. I kept trying to push myself because I know I have more than what I was doing, and finally I blacked out while riding. Thankfully, he stopped and I just layed there across his back for a moment, but this has never happened before. I could barely walk and was confused and my hands were shaking. I know it is the anemia and lack of oxygen to muscles. I had made an appt earlier this week with a local hemotologist and that is scheduled for next week. My questions are these: Since the DS is not a popular procedure around here (Chicago) all my docs have many questions. My labs are as follows: Hgb - 7 MCV - 61 MCH - 18 TIBC - 643 Iron Sat - 1< Ferritin - 1 Iron - 8 I have been on oral iron 2-3 xs daily over the past 2 years with no improvement, always taken with vit.C. This newfound extreme weakness and blacking out has me afraid. Even in the phone consultation to make the appointment, I felt like they predetermined that I would just need to continue oral iron and follow up. Becasue my care is now going to be specialized under a heme guy, and not my PCP, do I go with the flow and do the same thing I have been for 2 years? I am frustrated (I know, even before I get in to see the guy) from the fatigue and because my passion for riding has to stop becasue of the danger. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to explain the DS and anemia treatment from their own experience to a physician who has very limited knowledge of the procedure? Thank you, Ellen W Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2006 Report Share Posted July 9, 2006 Thank you all for your replies, and i apologize for not responding sooner. After I posted this, I thought " What is stopping you from calling Dee and just asking? " DUH!!! So, I did call her and she said to have myself checked, just so I didn't have trouble with driving and possibly passing out - Be safe. So, on the way home from work Friday I stopped by the ER and am just getting home from being admitted. While I did not have the picture to show the doctors, the hematologist did say she was going to call Dr. K to get a better understanding of how we absorb nutrients and what dosage we can go up too in the event certain meds do not get absorbed fully. I had consults from my internal med. who said I should start with iron injections and he believes the lowering counts to be caused by my only apparent blood loss; periods. He then consulted the GYN who said " Yup, lets do a uterine ablation, better yet you can be sure it won't be a future problem and have a hysterectomy. He said he would have just pumped me up with transfusions and then dealt with injections of iron later. Then, the hematologist was never informed of the start of iron injections, and wanted me started with an infusion and was confused as to why I was confused with what I should be doing to fix this. The labs kept coming back with the numbers going up to 8.5 hgb down to 7.3 and back to 8.3 inthe last three days, which caused even more confusion. Needless to say, I am still confused. I am going to do this: Continue with iron injections three times a week 100 mg Dextron until the end of the month. I am supposed to have a pelvic ultrasound and then consult the GYN about ablation vs. hysterectomy. Then meet with the hematologist at end of the month to see where I am. I have been taking iron daily for the last two years now. And yes, there are days when I miss a dose, but like the calcium I have iron stashed everywhere so that when I remember I take it. I can honestly say I have always gotten at least one dose in a day, and 90% of the time in the last two years I have managed to get both doses in, inbetween my coffees to keep my body awake and my calcium/TUMs. It would seem that I have been below 10 hgb for at least three years, since reconstructive surgeries and just do not seem to go upwards. I will let you know how things turn out. Thank you again for all your replies. No horseback riding for me until I get levels up somewhat, makes me sad. Ellen W Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2006 Report Share Posted July 9, 2006 Ellen, thank goodness you got that checked quickly. Don't feel sorry, you will be back riding before you know it and you will feel much, much better. Marta > I > will let you know how things turn out. Thank you again for all your > replies. No horseback riding for me until I get levels up somewhat, > makes me sad. > > Ellen W Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2006 Report Share Posted July 9, 2006 In a message dated 7/9/2006 7:32:27 P.M. Central Daylight Time, ewagen@... writes: .. I am supposed to have a pelvic ultrasound and then consult the GYN about ablation vs. hysterectomy. Then meet with the hematologist at end of the month to see where I am. ______________________________ Fyi, I asked about an ablation prior to my Hyst. The Gyno told me that it was better to go ahead and have a hyst because the majority of people end up having a hyst anyway and why worry with a ablation? I didn't plan on needing my uterus anyway and wanted a hyst anyway. The best move I ever made. My HGB has been low normal ever since and I'm sometimes forgetful about taking my iron. Actually I hate to take it due to the smelly fart situation, and forget on purpose when I'm going to be around people. But before the hyst. I had blood transfusions and as hospitalized at Christmas in 2004(?) in an emergency situation when my routine labs came back at panic levels and transfused with prbcs and had been on oral and iv iron infusions. Hopefully those days are gone with my uterus! Mel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2006 Report Share Posted July 9, 2006 In a message dated 7/9/2006 11:47:11 P.M. Central Daylight Time, plwboy1@... writes: wow Ellen. I am so sorry. Im anemic too but yours sounds way more severe. Im confused- why a possible hysterectomy? V- ________________________________ Vicki Not ellen, But Blood loss from Uterine flow is a common cause of anemia in women according to dr K. When I talked to him after seeing my Male GYN he told me that I wouldn't be having these problems that he had a doc there that he worked with who would have done what he wanted. MY male GYN wanted to do The whole Anemia workup which had been done before. And we had already decided it was from uterine bleeding(duh-2 periods a month!) A new female gyn and presto, hyst a month later and I'm better! Mel- who loves her lady gyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2006 Report Share Posted July 9, 2006 wow Ellen. I am so sorry. Im anemic too but yours sounds way more severe. Im confused- why a possible hysterectomy? V- ilbn69 wrote: Thank you all for your replies, and i apologize for not responding sooner. After I posted this, I thought " What is stopping you from calling Dee and just asking? " DUH!!! So, I did call her and she said to have myself checked, just so I didn't have trouble with driving and possibly passing out - Be safe. So, on the way home from work Friday I stopped by the ER and am just getting home from being admitted. While I did not have the picture to show the doctors, the hematologist did say she was going to call Dr. K to get a better understanding of how we absorb nutrients and what dosage we can go up too in the event certain meds do not get absorbed fully. I had consults from my internal med. who said I should start with iron injections and he believes the lowering counts to be caused by my only apparent blood loss; periods. He then consulted the GYN who said " Yup, lets do a uterine ablation, better yet you can be sure it won't be a future problem and have a hysterectomy. He said he would have just pumped me up with transfusions and then dealt with injections of iron later. Then, the hematologist was never informed of the start of iron injections, and wanted me started with an infusion and was confused as to why I was confused with what I should be doing to fix this. The labs kept coming back with the numbers going up to 8.5 hgb down to 7.3 and back to 8.3 inthe last three days, which caused even more confusion. Needless to say, I am still confused. I am going to do this: Continue with iron injections three times a week 100 mg Dextron until the end of the month. I am supposed to have a pelvic ultrasound and then consult the GYN about ablation vs. hysterectomy. Then meet with the hematologist at end of the month to see where I am. I have been taking iron daily for the last two years now. And yes, there are days when I miss a dose, but like the calcium I have iron stashed everywhere so that when I remember I take it. I can honestly say I have always gotten at least one dose in a day, and 90% of the time in the last two years I have managed to get both doses in, inbetween my coffees to keep my body awake and my calcium/TUMs. It would seem that I have been below 10 hgb for at least three years, since reconstructive surgeries and just do not seem to go upwards. I will let you know how things turn out. Thank you again for all your replies. No horseback riding for me until I get levels up somewhat, makes me sad. Ellen W and Vicki Plough - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 I was laughing a couple of weeks ago because for two weeks in a row I was sent for blood work. One week they took two vials the next they took three. I said Dr. K said we were not to give blood, so I don't, but they sure take it. When I go to do labs for him they take 13 vials. No wonder I come up anemic. LOL Pearl I do take my iron twice a day though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 I got it. Thanks for the info. Im anemic and I have heavy periods. Wonder if I'll ever need one. Vicki whos mom had one years ago MDL1031@... wrote: In a message dated 7/9/2006 11:47:11 P.M. Central Daylight Time, plwboy1@... writes: wow Ellen. I am so sorry. Im anemic too but yours sounds way more severe. Im confused- why a possible hysterectomy? V- ________________________________ Vicki Not ellen, But Blood loss from Uterine flow is a common cause of anemia in women according to dr K. When I talked to him after seeing my Male GYN he told me that I wouldn't be having these problems that he had a doc there that he worked with who would have done what he wanted. MY male GYN wanted to do The whole Anemia workup which had been done before. And we had already decided it was from uterine bleeding(duh-2 periods a month!) A new female gyn and presto, hyst a month later and I'm better! Mel- who loves her lady gyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 In a message dated 7/10/2006 11:01:56 AM Central Standard Time, plwboy1@... writes: I got it. Thanks for the info. Im anemic and I have heavy periods. Wonder if I'll ever need one. Vicki whos mom had one years ago __________________ Who knows? I never thought I'd ever need a transfusion either but I did. Mel http://hometown.aol.com/mdl1031/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 Dr. K said we were not to give blood, ============================== Pearl Dr K is saying we shouldn't give blood? This is news to me. Dr. K has been asked this question in support meetings before and he basically said there was no reason we can't(long time ago). In fact even Dee and have donated blood. I always felt we shouldn't. Because if we are marginally low/normal it could send us into a tail-spin. It was after Dee donated blood that she Crashed with her calcium. This is an interesting update on Dr. K's advice. Thanks Jo Who is keeping her Plasma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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