Re: Regain -- A PLAN IS NEEDED

[Guest guest]

Someone mentioned that at times we get hung-up on the numbers on the

scale rather than how wonderful we feel now compared to prior to

surgery.

Yes, things are MUCH better now than before surgery. But, they are

NOT as good as they were before I regained 30#s!

I was on a pretty high horse about how terrific the DS was over the

RNY. I could eat and looked healthy while I was losing while myRNY

acquaintences who had the RNY about a year after my surgery could

eat a tiny bit and looked sorta grey-green for quite a while, now

are very thin -- okay, too thin in my book -- but I weigh (again)

enough to qualify for obesity surgery!

I am not so hung-up on the number on the scales so much as the fact

that my clothes don't fit, my knees hurt again, I have a double chin

again, my cheek bones are gone, my 27 year old daughter (who was so

proud of my success) is disappointed in me now (although she's never

come out and said it). I feel like a failure.

There, I've said it... Poor me. I know what I sound like. Now,

what in the heck is the answer?

Where do we go from here? I NEED A PLAN. Something like, each week

we all agree to try to change one of our bad habits. Example:

starting Sunday, we all monitor our water intake. We try to drink

the recommended amount per day.

What is the recommended amount of water per day for us " oldies " ???

~~ Shirley

[Guest guest]

> Hi . Just wanted to say it might be easier to be " content

> enough " if I had ever been able to put one leg into a size 4 let

alone a size 10! At my lowest weight I wore a baggy 18. Recently

bought a size 20 skirt.

> ~~Shirley

>

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Hi Shirley

I understsnd where you are coming from, but you and I both need to

understand we all start out different and all end different and all

look different.

I too wanted more. I wanted to be a 10-12. I also wanted to weigh

157lbs. I wanted to look thin.... I wanted to be thin. I never

wanted to weigh 200+ again. When I got to 187, I wasnt happy, Now I

would give my eye teeth to weigh 187!!!!!!!!!! It is all relevant.

None of us (even -lee) are happy with where we are and where we

ended up. I think we want to much, and are never happy.

But this is where we can change.....

We can work at being satisfied with where we are, and what we are

doing, and most of all who we are. We cant all be size 4s, we are

who we are, But we can change the things we can and go from there. I

will never have big boobs and a small butt, and these legs!!! oh the

horrendous legs, they are mine tho- they get me where I need to go.

I am trying to improve what I can, and be content with the rest. I

hope that you and I both can find a peace in doing this.

hugs

Sharon in Onyx

who did get back to 204 for 2 weeks, but is up to 208 again! hey, it

is better than the 218 I have been at for the last year tho-

[Guest guest]

Shirley,

She just picked ten minutes, I think. It sounds doable. Actually,

studies show that minutes spent exercising add up at the end of the day

so you don't have to worry about doing say, 30 minutes of excercise at

once like I used to believe. That is a big relief to me and one of my

motivating factors in parking far away!

They used to say that fat-burning didn't start until after about 20

minutes of aerobic exercise, I believe. Thank goodness I can ignore

that marker now!

Marta

> Jo, why a 10 minute burst of " intentional " exercise/activity? >

[Guest guest]

is it really possible for a DS patient to gain 40-50 pounds?? I thought that

wouldnt happen to us.

Vicki

Shirley Groom wrote:

How about we report our day to each other and tell each other what we

did differently?

Vicky

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VICKY ! I LOVE YOU!

That sounds like the " other group " I was talking about, but without

having to start an actual separate group.

I am ABSOLUTELY for it!!! I'd still like to have a weekly " special

project " -- like water, sugar, etc. Okay with you??

~~Shirley

and Vicki Plough -

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 6/24/2006 11:15:33 A.M. Central Daylight Time,

shirlarry@... writes:

Maybe I will REALLY do it if you and others join in... we make a

challenge out of it. Not a contest where someone is deemed the

winner, but where we all win by changing one small habit at a time.

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NOW THIS IS WHAT I NEED ! A contest would wake up the competitive nature in

me..LOL. The best diet I ever had was when I was on formu3 and they had

contests where the best winner each month won gift certificates for clothes or

free

supplements. I wons so much and lost about 85 lbs. I am a very competitive

person by nature. If I think I can win something, I will figure out how to do

it.

Mel

[Guest guest]

I don't know about you all, but sex is a GREAT way to exercise. I had forgotten

about that one, lol.

--

Even in laughter the heart is sorrowful; and the end of that mirth is heaviness.

Proverbs 13:14

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Have wild jungle sex.....lol..

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??????????????

Is that stuff still around????? LOL

I may joke about this, but I am one

that needs the excerise really bad,

I hate moving around so my head sweats

just don;t like the trickle of wetness

dripping from my hair...We all have our

strangness..LOL I don't sweat under my arms

anymore so its gotta go somewhere..lol

Pat

[Guest guest]

Okay Everyone,

I am on board as well. I am going to drink 8 or more glasses of water each day,

and cut out my sugars as well. I have 3 pounds I need to lose.

--

Even in laughter the heart is sorrowful; and the end of that mirth is heaviness.

Proverbs 13:14

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....I will pick up your challenge and join you. Starting

> Sunday I will make every effort to monitor my water intake...

>

> Hugs

> Jo

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Thank you, Jo! This is what I need. Not pats on the back, but a kick

in the butt! I know it's time to stop whining about my inability to

control my eating habits and do something.

Maybe I will REALLY do it if you and others join in... we make a

challenge out of it. Not a contest where someone is deemed the

winner, but where we all win by changing one small habit at a time.

This week, WATER INTAKE. Suggestions for following weeks: less/no

sugar, less/no caffeine, more/some exercise, more/lots more protein,

no eating while watching TV or at the movies, what else? What are

specific issues others are battling?

Let's MAKE A PLAN!!! Our weekly crusade to re-lose what we've lost.

(That would sound very strange to most people

Shirley

[Guest guest]

Mel,

I am not sure if I want to go up against you lol. I want to have a chance

myself But, seriously, this is something that would encourage us all to get

back in shape and make healthier choices.

--

Even in laughter the heart is sorrowful; and the end of that mirth is heaviness.

Proverbs 13:14

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From: MDL1031@...

In a message dated 6/24/2006 11:15:33 A.M. Central Daylight Time,

shirlarry@... writes:

Maybe I will REALLY do it if you and others join in... we make a

challenge out of it. Not a contest where someone is deemed the

winner, but where we all win by changing one small habit at a time.

___________________________________

NOW THIS IS WHAT I NEED ! A contest would wake up the competitive nature in

me..LOL. The best diet I ever had was when I was on formu3 and they had

contests where the best winner each month won gift certificates for clothes or

free

supplements. I wons so much and lost about 85 lbs. I am a very competitive

person by nature. If I think I can win something, I will figure out how to do

it.

Mel

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 6/24/2006 2:20:52 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

plwboy1@... writes:

is it really possible for a DS patient to gain 40-50 pounds?? I thought that

wouldnt happen to us.

Vicki

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vVicki,

The only ones I heard of had reallty long common channels and had them

reduced in a second surgery. NONE were Dr. K's Pts and when they went into

surgery they found the CCwas evenlonger than made at pre op. either a

measurement error or lenghthening by the body as a way of protecting it's self

from

starvation. I have not heard of any of our group regaining a lot....Jo, marta?

Mel

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 6/24/2006 2:20:52 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

plwboy1@... writes:

is it really possible for a DS patient to gain 40-50 pounds?? I thought that

wouldnt happen to us.

Vicki

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Vicki,'

As a reminder, I'm almost 4 years out. Will be 4 yrs in December.

OMGoodness Time flys! If I were to be prone to Regain, I'd be right there.

Mel (Dec. 2002 RNY to DS

revision)

[Guest guest]

> I hate moving around so my head sweats

> just don;t like the trickle of wetness

> dripping from my hair...We all have our

> strangness..LOL

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Pat..then I am strange just like you. When my head sweats it feels

like bugs are crawling around and It nuts me up. That is why I love

water aerobics...The water keeps me cool and if for some strange

reason I do actually start to get too warm I can just Dip under for a

second and continue on.

No pool? exercise in the yard with the sprinklers on...don't worry

about what the neighbors think because they already know your crazy.

Hugs

Jo

[Guest guest]

> Jo, why a 10 minute burst of " intentional " exercise/activity? I'm

> all for it, but why 10, not 5 or 15? What, if anything specific,

> does it do for us? Increase metabolism? Or just gets us off our

> butt?

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Because Dr. K said that the latest studies show, 3 ten min burst of

exercise lead to more weightloss than one 30 min. session. That 10

mins. is enough to increase our metabolism at the moment and our

metabolism will continue high during the after-glow. 3 ten min.

sessions means you have 3 periods of metabolism after-glow burn. I

figured we could start with the first 10 min. and work our way

up...so little changes are easier to be successful with. It's easier

to talk yourself into 10 min. so your more likely to get off your

butt because it is accomplish-able. Of course a person can always

Adjust the challenges to meet their personal needs.

Hugs

Jo

[Guest guest]

> is it really possible for a DS patient to gain 40-50 pounds?? I

thought that wouldnt happen to us.

>

> Vicki

>================================

Yes it is possible...and sugar is usually the culprit. Also you have

to look at where a person began. If someone lost 200 pounds then a

regain of 50 pounds would only be a 25% regain of weightloss, a 10-20%

regain is common.

I think Shirley said she lost 13o pounds and regained 30...well that's

around a 23% regain...Only slightly over what the stats say is

expected.

With effort on our parts we can be on the happier end of the stats.

Jo

[Guest guest]

> I am on board as well. I am going to drink 8 or more glasses of

water each day, and cut out my sugars as well. I have 3 pounds I need

to lose.

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Good for you ! Keeping it a little 3 pound problem to correct is

really the way to go.

Hugs

Jo

[Guest guest]

I haven't heard of anyone regaining a huge amount. I don't really know

the numbers, however, and am judging mostly by looks.

Marta

> I have not heard of any of our group regaining a lot....Jo, marta?

> Mel

[Guest guest]

>

> is it really possible for a DS patient to gain 40-50 pounds?? I

thought that wouldnt happen to us.

>

> Vicki

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Well, I hope I never know about 40 or 50 pounds, but I can testify to

30#'s!!!

Too many sweets, too much food that's not protein, no exercise. I

guess that's the ticket to get ya' there...

Shirley

[Guest guest]

.... 10 minute burst of " intentional " exercise/activity... is enough to

increase our metabolism at the moment and our metabolism will continue

high during the after-glow.

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Thanks, Jo. Too bad we don't burn calories while sitting at the

computer!!!

~~Shirley

[Guest guest]

if we did, I would be one skinny bitch!!

Vicki

Shirley Groom wrote:

.... 10 minute burst of " intentional " exercise/activity... is enough to

increase our metabolism at the moment and our metabolism will continue

high during the after-glow.

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Thanks, Jo. Too bad we don't burn calories while sitting at the

computer!!!

~~Shirley

and Vicki Plough -