Re: Nizoral and rash (due to yeast?)

[Guest guest]

You wrote:

>My question is if he's on an anti-fungal, should that not have

>eliminated the rash if it is indeed a yeast infection?

>Do alternative anti-fungals kill off different types of yeast (if

>there are diferent varieties)?

Not necessarily to the first question; yes to the second.

There are many types of yeast and some are resistant to a variety of

treatments. It's basically a hit and miss approach unless you do a

specific type of testing to determine which treatments will

effectively eliminate the yeast. We did a number of tests before

starting yeast elimination -- the most useful being the Comprehensive

Stool Analysis/Parasitology x2 test from Doctor's Data. They

specifically isolate the dysibiotic flora (problem yeast) and then

test a slew of both prescriptive and natural agents against the

yeast. For example, my son's specific yeast was vulnerable to every

presciptive medication available, but resistant to several natural

agents. Therefore, we could decide exactly how to treat the problem.

The tests are expensive and not always covered by insurance, but if

you can afford it, it's well worth it. You do need a doctor to order

the test for you, however.

Doctor's Data 1-800-323-2784.

[Guest guest]

>

> >My question is if he's on an anti-fungal, should that not have

> >eliminated the rash if it is indeed a yeast infection?

> >Do alternative anti-fungals kill off different types of yeast (if

> >there are diferent varieties)?

>

> Not necessarily to the first question; yes to the second.

>

> There are many types of yeast and some are resistant to a

variety of

> treatments. It's basically a hit and miss approach unless you

do a

> specific type of testing to determine which treatments will

> effectively eliminate the yeast. We did a number of tests before

> starting yeast elimination -- the most useful being the

Comprehensive

> Stool Analysis/Parasitology x2 test from Doctor's Data. They

> specifically isolate the dysibiotic flora (problem yeast) and then

> test a slew of both prescriptive and natural agents against the

> yeast. For example, my son's specific yeast was vulnerable to

every

> presciptive medication available, but resistant to several

natural

> agents. Therefore, we could decide exactly how to treat the

problem.

>

> The tests are expensive and not always covered by insurance,

but if

> you can afford it, it's well worth it. You do need a doctor to

order

> the test for you, however.

>

> Doctor's Data 1-800-323-2784.

>

>

Thanks, .

This really seems to pin point what specifically we are looking

for. I just e-mailed the company to see if they offer their services

for those of us up her in Canada. Do you remember how much

these tests roughly cost?

Todd

[Guest guest]

> Thanks, .

>

> This really seems to pin point what specifically we are looking

> for. I just e-mailed the company to see if they offer their

services

> for those of us up her in Canada. Do you remember how much

> these tests roughly cost?

>

> Todd

I think it's $265. which includes mailing, test kits, analysis and

test results. You have to collect the stool yourself when they send

you the kit, so it's not for the squeamish. On the other hand, it's

nothing new if you've ever changed diapers.

[Guest guest]

I wonder if you might share with us exactly what type of yeast that

was found in your child and exactly what drug was used to

successfully treat it. I am very puzzled as to what you are

referring to. Fungal infections that cause skin infections and appear

in the gut are successfully treated with broad spectrum antifungals.

Kathy -NNY

Hi, Kathy:

Sure, I'll list the problem flora that my son had if you'd like:

(Yeast/Fungal)

candida albicans

citramalic

tartaric

arabinose

citrobacter koseri

gamma strep

(Anaerobic bacteria)

HPHPA (formerly DHPPA-A)

(Krebs Cycle)

aconitic

citric

(Miscellaneous)

oxalic

hippuric

We treated with Nystatin (1/8 tsp. 2x day), and good flora -- first

we used Culturelle, then Pro Bio-Gold and currently we are on Multi-

Flora Spectrum (all available through Kirkman Labs, I believe).

Because some of my son's dysbiotic levels were astronomical, our Dr.

was just too worried about his liver to try typical and faster

treatments such as Diflucan, Augmentin, Ciprofloxacin and others. So

we've just slowly but steadily elimated the yeast and bacteria with

the above treatment. It's apparently working, too, the test results

after one year indicated only one problem -- a MUCH lower, but still

persistant, strain of the candida albicans. We adjusted our Nystatin

levels and the flora. Now another year has gone past and just two

weeks ago we did another test, but I haven't got results back yet so

I won't know if we eventually got that strain or not.

Did I answer your question?